Why are English supporters the most pitiful in world football?

[Gary25]

I'm just using it as an example of how it's easy it is to generalise a group based on the actions of a few which has happened several times in this thread. You did yourself unconsciously or consciously with your " you lot" comment . Instantly throwing me into the same group as a bunch of pissed up belters who are an absolute fucking embarrassment but, in the same respect, are not really representative of the majority of people. I'll follow England in tournaments because it's something to do but I don't associate with said bellends and I don't appreciate being associated by others. I'll never attend an England game. I've no real affinity with these type of fans and I'd not enjoy being surrounded by the cunts. I fucking hate all that Brits on the piss bullshit behaviour you see at footy tournaments and when you're abroad on your hols sometimes and, in the latter case, I've seen such behaviour from all British and Irish nationalities at times. Anyway, made up for Norn Iron , great result.

Fair enough but you did kick off the 'you lot' thing. I'm not pretending all Northern Ireland/Ireland fans are angels...like in all walks of life there's always going to be a few bad apples. But from all reports both Northern Ireland and ROI fans have been very well behaved and not seeking aggro of any description. Now I do realise England is much bigger than our little Island so there's likely to be more bad apples in their support...I do get that and I also know the majority of England fans including families with kids etc are decent people following their Country responsibly. However trouble does seem to follow SOME England fans around and whilst a few of you have admitted that I don't think there's any need to be a little touchy and defensive when the subject is brought up.

 

[Gary25]

Aye, but this is it, I don't associate myself in any UK national rivalry, I'm usually pretty pleased to see good results for all 5 teams. Every major International tournament sees some of our resident Irish fans (and other nations too) contenting themselves with putting the boot into the English. Pitiful.

With good reason mate. Let's be honest.

I'm completely indifferent to England the National team...I don't really care how they do but I usually like to see them do well mainly because a few Liverpool players represent them.

 

[Lippy]

Fair enough but you did kick off the 'you lot' thing. I'm not pretending all Northern Ireland/Ireland fans are angels...like in all walks of life there's always going to be a few bad apples. But from all reports both Northern Ireland and ROI fans have been very well behaved and not seeking aggro of any description. Now I do realise England is much bigger than our little Island so there's likely to be more bad eggs in their support...I do get that and I also know the majority of England fans including families with kids etc are decent people. However trouble does seem to follow SOME England fans around and whilst a few of you have admitted that I don't think there's any need to be a little touchy and defensive when the subject is brought up.

Agreed. There's too many bellends that follow England. I'm not defensive btw as I'm really not arsed. Those nobs don't represent me nor do I feel particularly English. It just happens that technically am. You can see how easy it is to generalise though which was the only point I was trying to make:

It's just like anything in the world Wizzy. A small minority representative of a group makes a twat of themselves by behaving in a manner normal, intelligent and sane human beings don't. Group is then stereotyped and labelled as per behaviour of said minority by misinformed bigots. Group takes offence at stereotyping. Rinse and repeat.

 

[jexykrodic]

Fair enough but you did kick off the 'you lot' thing. I'm not pretending all Northern Ireland/Ireland fans are angels...like in all walks of life there's always going to be a few bad apples. But from all reports both Northern Ireland and ROI fans have been very well behaved and not seeking aggro of any description. Now I do realise England is much bigger than our little Island so there's likely to be more bad eggs in their support...I do get that and I also know the majority of England fans including families with kids etc are decent people. However trouble does seem to follow SOME England fans around and whilst a few of you have admitted that I don't think there's any need to be a little touchy and defensive when the subject is brought up.

I think it may be because the moment there is trouble it's immediately assumed it's initiated by England fans.

Of course it's well understood by rivals who know they can get away with bad behaviour simply by pointing the finger. Baiting England fans has become a bit of a sport now.

Bigots lap it up as it brings them the chance to display their moral outrage.

 

[Athens]

Everybody loves a scapegoat. Sure, the best thing about having a young child is being able to fart in public then blaming the offending smell on the kid.

 

[Portly]

No. In USA they call a turnip what in most of the U.K. Is called a rutabaga. Then the American turnip is often called a beet in other countries.

This is all so confusing.

The term "rutabaga" is not used in the UK. Except by manufacturers of pickles, who put it as an ingredient on the labels of jars of chutneys and pickles, to disguise the fact that it is boring old swede.

There is an even more uninteresting version of swede that is known as a wurzel. But wurzels are only grown for animal feed.

 

[Athens]

But wurzels are only grown for animal feed.

And for writing cracking tunes

 

[doctor_mac]

Oh, now we're talking. I love parsnips, but you can't find them here.

Grow them in your veggie patch. Start a niche veggie business for expats. £10 a parsnip.

 

[doctor_mac]

I heard that the Polish fans went on the rampage last night. 50 cars were washed and waxed, 10 boilers were fixed and 5 walls were built.

Was that yours Athens? Because its a cracker, as Frank might have said.

 

[Athens]

Grow them in your veggie patch. Start a niche veggie business for expats. £10 a parsnip.

I've a friend who grew up on a farm just outside Comber, her da grows parsnips as well as other veg. She reckons that Greece is probably too dry for them.

So, taking my water bill into account, I'd have to charge £15 a parsnip.

 

[Athens]

Was that yours Athens? Because its a cracker, as Frank might have said.

I wish, I seen it on Facebook, I think.

 

[doctor_mac]

I've a friend who grew up on a farm just outside Comber, her da grows parsnips as well as other veg. She reckons that Greece is probably too dry for them.

So, taking my water bill into account, I'd have to charge £15 a parsnip.

That sounds fair to me.

 

[doctor_mac]

I wish, I seen it on Facebook, I think.

Still gets a like.

 

[Athens]

Still gets a like.

For a second I thought perhaps that you had posted it and you were testing me.

 

[doctor_mac]

For a second I thought perhaps that you had posted it and you were testing me.

Modesty prevents me....

 

[peekay]

No. In USA they call a turnip what in most of the U.K. Is called a rutabaga. Then the American turnip is often called a beet in other countries.

So what do the Americans call the vegetable referred to as turnip by UK?

 

[gkmacca]

There are few things worse than an over-cooked parsnip.

 

[gene hughes]

Rutabaga

 

[gene hughes]

And their turnip seems to be our beet.

 

[cloggypop]

There are few things worse than an over-cooked parsnip.

Is that a Half Man Half Biscuit B side?

 

[doctor_mac]

Well, the thread seems to be back on track at least.

 

[peekay]

Rutabaga

Cool. So I have eaten the vegetable referred to in this thread as a turnip.

 

[ILD]

I'm surprised that the Chelsea hooligans there weren't chucking celery around.

Wouldn't Chelsea fans be chucking plastic celery sticks? They wouldn't hurt a fly.

Damn plastic celery waving pricks.

 

[tomasjj]

in Cajun cooking the holy trinity is onions, green peppers and. . . celery.
it is like the holy ghost, omnipresent.

 

[doctor_mac]

in Cajun cooking the holy trinity is onions, green peppers and. . . celery.
it is like the holy ghost, omnipresent.

Hmmm, dodgy theology Tomas, it is God the Father that is omnipresent. The Holy Ghost is like the ninja that does special missions.

 

[Portly]

Tremendous bollocks.

 

[StevieM]

 

[Ryan]

Rooney justifying Roy's decision to play him in midfield. Very good again today. Lovely passing display

I'm still undecided as to whether he was actually that good, or that he just stood out because he was the only one of 22 players intent on actually trying to play the ball around in some sort of structured fashion.

I suppose Coleman has an excuse cos he's got a lesser-talented squad, but why didn't either manager want to get control of the game better than what was shown? Does Hodgson not think that managing and controlling a game is a better option than 100mph pinball? He got lucky his subs bailed him out (in a way you could say that was a ballsy decision), but none of this was part of a gameplan. He's just fucked 4 strikers on and a bit of individual brilliance has bailed him out rather than someone finishing off his masterplan.

Is Hodgson's best option for game control really pulling Rooney - a forward - back into midfield to ping balls around? That's an indictment on either the English squad, or Hodgson's views on how to play football. Wouldn't Wilshere in midfield and Rooney in Delle Alli's supposed position yield better results? Wilshere's a better midfielder than Rooney is.

I'm trying not to be harsh on Rooney because he was the only one out there putting his foot on the ball, but the better quality nations in this tournament have midfield that do that without fanfare or acclaim, and they'll find this English side out should if and when they meet.

 

[walesnj]

And their turnip seems to be our beet.

I'm not sure about that, turnips are nothing like beets. if there is any comparison then a turnip would be similar to a swede....definitely not beets

 

[Athens]

Tremendous bollocks.

Is this a compliment, or an insult?