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Why are English supporters the most pitiful in world football?

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I went to visit my mate in a prison near (London)Derry a few years ago and the taxi driver told me that they have an amazing halloween weekend there, famous the world over, except with me.

Can anyone confirm or deny this rumour?
 
I went to visit my mate in a prison near (London)Derry a few years ago and the taxi driver told me that they have an amazing halloween weekend there, famous the world over, except with me.

Can anyone confirm or deny this rumour?
No need for the brackets its Londonderry son.

And the whole north is famous for Halloween. Im telling you, they go IN
 
Ah thats a shame.
I thought Ryan might come in, accept he really jumped the gun and if not apologise perhaps water down his rhetoric.

Its a pity to see that level of xenophobia.
Anyway. Im not coming back to this thread.

Every media channel in the world identifies the English as the victims this last week and yet our neighbours call us an embarrasment.

I think Portly and JJ have called it very well.

yeah I think it's clear the RUSHKIES are in the CL of Hooliganism, and England were relegated to the Championship a few years back. Bit unfair of Ryan. Also, English neo nazis are softer.
 
I went to visit my mate in a prison near (London)Derry a few years ago and the taxi driver told me that they have an amazing halloween weekend there, famous the world over, except with me.

Can anyone confirm or deny this rumour?
They do go mad for it, if you're not dressed up you stick out like a sore thumb.

Although that's in Derry, I've no idea where that other place is.
 
It's very disturbing for me and I can't quite understand why this has been happening across Eastern Europe. We Eastern Europeans were all brought up on the idea of defeating fascism, which was always presented as the absolute evil. And yet in all these countries – Poland, Russia, my own Ukraine, Bulgaria, Serbia, Croatia, Hungary, even Greece – neo-Nazi symbolism has taken over large segments of the football fandom. Some fans actually celebrate Hitler's birthday now...

This has drastically altered the make-up of the fans at the stadiums: the kind of fans that went to see football during the Soviet Union, the so-called "kuzmichi", are distinctly uncomfortable in the new atmosphere and rarely go to games now. Many of them are shocked by these developments and complain that instead of learning something useful, the young people imported the worst trends from the West. But nobody really understands why this has become so widespread, in so many countries at once.


Not meaning to offend Rurik, but I thought Ukraine has always had some linkage to Fascism though Rurik, no? Or was all that eliminated over time and just a minority. The fascists in these countries have also adopted the Celtic Cross for some reason. But I am assuming its a minority no in all these countries?

What about Austria's election recently?And you have to think there will be a German political reaction to absorbing so many refugees too.
 
I went to visit my mate in a prison near (London)Derry a few years ago and the taxi driver told me that they have an amazing halloween weekend there, famous the world over, except with me.

Can anyone confirm or deny this rumour?
It is brilliant.

Last time I was there was a good few years after the Good Friday, and yet the locals still indulged in a few ritual car burnings and then chasing the fire brigade .. just for the craic
 
I see the Russians have set off a flare this afternoon at the stadium, despite being warned not to. They're also now blaming the provacation of the English for their fan behaviour. Poor the Russians, trying to mind their own business with their balaclava's in their pockets.
 
Apparently there's been trouble in Lille today again.

Just saw clip, seems like a firework or something was lobbed into a group of Wales and England fans resulting in said fans running towards police who in turn attacked them! Unreal. You'd nearly think the police were starting it.
 
The Beeb are reporting that Russian fans were waiting at the railway station in Lille in gangs, waiting for the England, Slovak and Wales fans. Fans were then running away from the Russians and the police took to firing tear gas at the running fans. Pitiful.
 
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Lille is at the other end of France though.

I saw no reports that mention the involvement if any Russians today.
 
From the Beeb:

England fan Oliver Larkworthy from Norwich is in Lille and was caught up in the tear gas, which was fired at the city's railway station.

"I saw a massive crowd running down the street - English fans, Slovakian fans and locals mainly, a real mix," he said.

"There is a massive mob of Russian fans standing outside the station just waiting to cause trouble. The whole thing is a disaster waiting to happen. It's like a massive tinder box waiting to go off any minute."
 
Ex-England footballer Stan Collymore said: "Somebody threw a, not a grenade, something that went bang towards some England fans and the England fans have just run."

The gas and pepper spray appears to have been used when fans ran away from the bang and towards police lines.
 
Couple of my mates went down to Lille today. I'm going to assume it's them until I find out any different.
 
@liamgallagher: Russian hooligans skintight shorts bumbags batty boy muscles ha ha I'd be more worried bout getting me arse pinched LG X
 
The bolded bit is the crux of this. It's decades out of date and you're more than bright enough to know it.

Told you he wouldnt give a fuck.

Hey Ryan, seems as you're stuck in the 1980's do yourself a favour and invest in Apple.

At the very second I type this message, the homepage of The Guardian & The BBC's news sites (not the sport, or the football page, the fucking homepage of the news site) is leading with English fans fighting in Lille. Today. It's rolling coverage. Your supporters are actually fighting, vandalising, and racially abusing others right now.

Not 30 years ago, right this minute. That's what they're currently doing.

Why are you ignoring this?

Andy - why don't you "give a fuck" about this?
 
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