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Yes a former Manc and Everton supporter. He is only speaking positively about the club because it gets him media work
Well he was an Everton fan as a kid, but many of our best scousers were- Fowler, Carra and Owen (edit- I know he isn't a scouser) for starters. How was he Manc fan?

And to give him credit, he has been working with our youth set up in various ways for ages. From Rodgers' time at the latest.
 
Martin Ødegaard is out of contract this summer, still only 21 and finally starting to live up to his potential. I doubt he will sign a new contract at Madrid after being sent out on loan for 3 years. Would be very much worth a look and fits out profile of young, inexpensive , hungry with somerything to prove.
 
Martin Ødegaard is out of contract this summer, still only 21 and finally starting to live up to his potential. I doubt he will sign a new contract at Madrid after being sent out on loan for 3 years. Would be very much worth a look and fits out profile of young, inexpensive , hungry with somerything to prove.
Apparently had a great night for Sociedad against Madrid tonight (clearly they don't have the loan player not playing against parent club rule in Spain). I'm not so sure about him not signing a new contract with Madrid if he gets some assurances. And if he is as good as you think, he might. The Madrid fans gave him an ovation off the pitch tonight, and also applauded his goals! They're doing their bit of wooing.
 
Apparently had a great night for Sociedad against Madrid tonight (clearly they don't have the loan player not playing against parent club rule in Spain). I'm not so sure about him not signing a new contract with Madrid if he gets some assurances. And if he is as good as you think, he might. The Madrid fans gave him an ovation off the pitch tonight, and also applauded his goals! They're doing their bit of wooing.

Wasnt he also a Liverpool supporter as a child? Like Robbie Keane style?
 
I just don't see a top player in Grealish. I've seen him plenty as I've watched the majority of the Villa matches over the last 3-4 years. He can and will do much better than Villa, but as a player who make any difference to this squad, nah. He's nowhere close to De Bruyne/Gerrard and never will be, IMO. He will go on to have a decent career for Spurs/United, etc, but that's about it. He would fit in here and a replace Lallana/Shaqiri more than adequately, but is that worth the price tag?

Chamberlain is filling the role of goal scoring midfielder more than adequately, IMO. He just needs to stay fit.

For me what this squad lacks is a clinical and versatile striker, one who gives us the option of playing alongside Bobby can alternate and rotate as required. Werner ticks that box and would represent much better value than overspending on a EPL English talent. If we were going for another AM, I'd sooner we bought Coutinho back, TBH.
 
Martin Ødegaard is out of contract this summer, still only 21 and finally starting to live up to his potential. I doubt he will sign a new contract at Madrid after being sent out on loan for 3 years. Would be very much worth a look and fits out profile of young, inexpensive , hungry with somerything to prove.

His contract runs till 2023. He's entrenched
 
The last year we were one win away from the double.So yeah I do think we can do it this year.Another thing to consider is that this year Man City are not as consistent as the last season and I don't see Leicester keeping this consistency until May.We had some injuries this season but our results havent been affected.When Ali was missing because of injury we won every game.Matip havent played since 20th of October but we still managed to win every PL game since then.
 
How about Jovic for £40-50M?
Madrid isn’t usually a city Liverpool go shopping in but the Reds never pass up the opportunity to bag themselves a bargain. Perhaps the most opportunistic club in the world right now, Michael Edwards and the recruitment team know how to find value for money in what is a grossly inflated market.
The Premier League leaders have been linked with Isco recently while Marco Asensio is reportedly a long-term target, too. But it isn’t either of the playmakers who Liverpool should be speaking to Real Madrid about. It’s Luka Jovic.
The Serbia international was one of the most sought-after forwards in the summer and it was considered to be coup when Los Blancos landed him in a deal worth around £50million. He was a revelation in the Bundesliga for Eintracht Frankfurt and seemed like the ideal successor to Karim Benzema.
But things haven’t gone to plan for the 22-year-old in the Spanish capital. He’s appeared in just 390 minutes in La Liga and has a single start in the Champions League for Zinedine Zidane’s men. He’s had the odd niggle but nothing to keep him out for long periods. Nothing to limit his limits to the extent he’s barely been seen in white.
Reports emerged not long after he signed to suggest Zidane wasn’t keen on the former Red Star Belgrade wonderkid. He remained at the Santiago Bernabéu but the feeling is the World Cup winner is far from convinced and that perhaps Jovic isn’t the perfect Benzema understudy.
However, failing in Madrid isn’t a sign of a bad player. Some of the very best players have been recklessly discarded after a stint in La Liga with the 13-time champions of Europe. Mesut Ozil and Angel Di Maria didn’t have bad careers post-Real Madrid, did they?
This, no doubt, is one of the reasons Jovic is such an intriguing prospect. Already written off by some in Spain, Madrid may take a hit on the £50million they paid for him as they look to club together enough to potentially pry Kylian Mbappe away from Paris Saint-Germain.
For around the £40million mark, he may appeal to Liverpool. There are shades of Luis Suárez and Sergio Agüero to Jovic’s play, two players who thrived in England. He’s brutish and has a relentless nature. Some might even say he’s the perfect modern-day No.9. But he’s much more than just a pure goalscorer.
There’s an opinion that the Eintracht Frankfurt man is a poacher simply because of how clinical he is when in the penalty area. But his overall game is what makes him so special. He’ll run the channels, he’ll act as a creator if possible, too.
There’s a tenacity to his game that just sees him run himself into the ground. Now, Liverpool’s pressing game is about much more than running but having the desire to win that ball back stands him in good stead if he was to make the move to Anfield. He’s a goalscorer, averaging 0.73 goals per 90 during his two seasons in Germany, and his assist record isn’t that bad either, coming in at 0.17.
He ticks a lot of boxes. And Liverpool have made a habit out of turning flops into stars. He could be the latest in a long list of success stories to turn their career round on Merseyside.
 
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Luka Jovic: “I sometimes watch videos of myself from last year and ask, ‘what happened?’


The Serbian striker reflected on a tough six months, but revealed his determination to turn the situation around

Luka Jovic has scored one goal for Real Madrid. It has been an underwhelming return. The striker admitted as much when speaking with a Serbian channel, Sports Afternoons with Kristina.
“I’m not happy with the season I’m having, at least up to this point. Mainly because I can be much better. Sometimes on YouTube I see videos of me from last year and I ask myself ‘what happened?’”
“But we all know the pressure at Real Madrid is huge, even more so if you’re only 21 and they payed €60M for you. I have fought until now without success. But hope the situation changes” he revealed.
Despite the tough luck and the difficult start to his Real Madrid career, Jovic is adamant that his talent will shine through. “In Serbia, I still feel that there is a lot of negativity when talking about my game at Real Madrid,” he said.
”But I am convinced that I will do well and that I will show that I am a Real Madrid player because I have the quality and talent to be here”.
Jovic believes in himself and so does his manager. The Serbian revealed earlier this season, that Zidane pushed for his signing. In a pre-match press conference during the Spanish Cup knockout phases in Saudi Arabia, Zidane was bullish on the Serb’s Real Madrid career. “He is the future,” Zidane told reporters. ”He has to be calm. He is learning and adapting. He will score a lot of goals for Real Madrid. We’ve backed him and you have to be calm with him.”
Jovic may get his next opportunity to shine with the upcoming Copa Del Rey match vs Real Sociedad on Thursday evening. Real Madrid are starting to enter the final phase of the season and will need the Serbian to step up with some more goals in order to ensure silverware arrives at the Bernabeu this season.

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Luka Jovic: “I sometimes watch videos of myself from last year and ask, ‘what happened?’


The Serbian striker reflected on a tough six months, but revealed his determination to turn the situation around

Luka Jovic has scored one goal for Real Madrid. It has been an underwhelming return. The striker admitted as much when speaking with a Serbian channel, Sports Afternoons with Kristina.
“I’m not happy with the season I’m having, at least up to this point. Mainly because I can be much better. Sometimes on YouTube I see videos of me from last year and I ask myself ‘what happened?’”
“But we all know the pressure at Real Madrid is huge, even more so if you’re only 21 and they payed €60M for you. I have fought until now without success. But hope the situation changes” he revealed.
Despite the tough luck and the difficult start to his Real Madrid career, Jovic is adamant that his talent will shine through. “In Serbia, I still feel that there is a lot of negativity when talking about my game at Real Madrid,” he said.
”But I am convinced that I will do well and that I will show that I am a Real Madrid player because I have the quality and talent to be here”.
Jovic believes in himself and so does his manager. The Serbian revealed earlier this season, that Zidane pushed for his signing. In a pre-match press conference during the Spanish Cup knockout phases in Saudi Arabia, Zidane was bullish on the Serb’s Real Madrid career. “He is the future,” Zidane told reporters. ”He has to be calm. He is learning and adapting. He will score a lot of goals for Real Madrid. We’ve backed him and you have to be calm with him.”
Jovic may get his next opportunity to shine with the upcoming Copa Del Rey match vs Real Sociedad on Thursday evening. Real Madrid are starting to enter the final phase of the season and will need the Serbian to step up with some more goals in order to ensure silverware arrives at the Bernabeu this season.

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Only Real can buy someone for 50m plus and then sideline him.
 
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Well he was an Everton fan as a kid, but many of our best scousers were- Fowler, Carra and Owen (edit- I know he isn't a scouser) for starters. How was he Manc fan?

And to give him credit, he has been working with our youth set up in various ways for ages. From Rodgers' time at the latest.

The fact that McMoneyman was a boyhood bluenose isn't a problem for me either, but his behaviour in a Liverpool shirt is. First he becomes ringleader of the Spice Boys, then he has the brass neck to take offence when the board decides he's dispensable (probably largely because of his behaviour, given that he was one of our most important players at the time) and gets his revenge by playing on the club's trust and cheating our admittedly uber-naïve hierarchy out of a transfer fee of many millions, far more than Owen deprived us of. It's true that the club have fetched him back into the fold but for me that'll never airbrush away his chiselling dishonesty towards the club that made him. I wouldn't p!$$ on the guy if he were on fire.
 
I hardly love McManaman, but let's be honest, he made a good career move. I think he won the CL twice? You can argue the Spice Boys thing but senior players like Ruddock and Ince let the team down by facilitating that carry and not being a better example to young players. When he played he consistently delivered.
The way he left was kind of shitty but at the same rate he was entitled to look out for his own career (I doubt it was some genius revenge plot).
 
The fact that McMoneyman was a boyhood bluenose isn't a problem for me either, but his behaviour in a Liverpool shirt is. First he becomes ringleader of the Spice Boys, then he has the brass neck to take offence when the board decides he's dispensable (probably largely because of his behaviour, given that he was one of our most important players at the time) and gets his revenge by playing on the club's trust and cheating our admittedly uber-naïve hierarchy out of a transfer fee of many millions, far more than Owen deprived us of. It's true that the club have fetched him back into the fold but for me that'll never airbrush away his chiselling dishonesty towards the club that made him. I wouldn't p!$$ on the guy if he were on fire.

Ringleader of the Spice Boys? Because he was a bit more snidey and clever than his bezzie mate Robbie? Come on.

Cheated Liverpool out of millions? Liverpool tried to sell him to Barcelona, and then begged him to stay and sign a new contract when he didn't go, which he was well within his rights to decide, given he hardly orchestrated THAT move.

There's always contract wrangling, but to absolve the 'uber-naive hierarchy' and then bang on about him abusing the club's trust - Eh? I thought they had already decided he was dispensable? - is fucking risible.

He made the right move and was rewarded with trophies, and while I don't like him much either, if he was just interested in cash, he could have stayed, because there wasn't a huge difference in the contract offers he had from Liverpool and Real
 
It's our belief we're a special club which players don't want to leave

Even when we're shit.

Arsed anymore. We're not special.
 
There were a fair few reports around the city at the time about him and Robbie on the social scene, reports which centred on him using that (admitted) relative cleverness to get Robbie into scrapes of various kinds and then standing back to watch the carnage. Said reports extended to the reason why Robbie got so few England caps relative to his talent, the gist of it being that the two of them were known to be trouble together and the England set-up decided they needed McMoneyman more, so he got called up and Robbie all too often didn't.

Liverpool tried to sell him to Barcelona after Uncle Roy, who had McManaman's thumbprint etched into his forehead, made a contract offer which the board wouldn't ratify and McManaman kicked off about that. It's understandable he'd be naffed off about it but, when the move didn't go through and negotiations reopened, McManaman strung them along by pretending he was considering the club's offer after, as it later emerged, he had already signed his pre-contract with Real. Nothing justifies that in my book . And Real's salary offer may not have been that much bigger, but his cut from the eventual free transfer certainly was.

None of this has anything to do with any imagined LFC "special status" or the question whether signing for Real was a good move for McManaman to make. I wouldn't have had a problem with him going if he'd been open and above board about what he was up to. It's the fact that he wasn't that sticks in my craw.
 
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There were a fair few reports around the city at the time about him and Robbie on the social scene, reports which centred on him using that (admitted) relative cleverness to get Robbie into scrapes of various kinds and then standing back to watch the carnage. Said reports extended to the reason why Robbie got so few England caps relative to his talent, the gist of it being that the two of them were known to be trouble together and the England set-up decided they needed McMoneyman more, so he got called up and Robbie all too often didn't.

Liverpool tried to sell him to Barcelona after Uncle Roy, who had McManaman's thumbprint etched into his forehead, made a contract offer which the board wouldn't ratify and McManaman kicked off about that. It's understandable he'd be naffed off about it but, when the move didn't go through and negotiations reopened, McManaman strung them along by pretending he was considering the club's offer when, as it later emerged, he had already signed his pre-contract with Real. Nothing justifies that in my book . And Real's salary offer may not have been that much bigger, but his cut from the eventual free transfer certainly was.

None of this has anything to do with any imagined LFC "special status" or the question whether signing for Real was a good move for McManaman to make. I wouldn't have had a problem with him going if he'd been open and above board about what he was up to. It's the fact that he wasn't that sticks in my craw.

Fair amount of truth in that, but I always thought it painted Robbie in a bit too much of the gormless simpleton role than was accurate or fair.

But the England team had more competition in that striking positions than it did where Macca played; Shearer, Sheringham, Cole (also under utilised), Ferdinand et al.

And yes, there is a palpable bit of snide edge to Steve, and there always has been, but him leaving the way he did is not all about him being a Machiavellian sort, the club were also culpable and his move was equally smart.
 
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