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Is there anything more repulsive in modern day football? Ughh.
Is there anything more repulsive in modern day football? Ughh.
Who improves our first team?
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I think we have done it quite well to with Naby Keita, not through choice but certainly for other reasons.
Sometimes it is better not to look at the person giving the advice but just to listen to what that person is saying, he ain't wrong about getting some new blood, this team has been building for around 3 seasons now (well some have), eventually they will get annoyed with each other, and you need new blood for competition and to improve. This league of us is unforgiving - eventually every team figures out the other - it ain't going to be like Barcalona or Bayern - dominating for 5 years with a core of 8 players.
All teams have a shelf life of 3 - 5years before the need a major rebuild. Players age, tactics get countered, people lose their drive. We are in year 3 now with most of this team so next season we can expect to probably be the last that this core group of players performs at their maximum. Beyond that its time to start bringing in new blood to freshen things up and force some established players aside.
Klopp has been incredibly loyal to his players, even those that have not always repaid his faith in them. He has to make some difficult decisions in the near future. As well as evolving our style of play he will have to start phasing out some of the players that got us to where we are now.
Klopp has been incredibly loyal to his players, even those that have not always repaid his faith in them. He has to make some difficult decisions in the near future. As well as evolving our style of play he will have to start phasing out some of the players that got us to where we are now.
Yeah, and that's exactly why Liverpool in the 70s and 80s, and Man Utd in the 90s and 2000s were so successful and impressive achievements. And rare.
The horrible, hard and expensive task of changing winning teams, dismantling squads and rebuilding them, and knowing when and how to make those changes are so difficult, especially when you don't give yourself the luxury of having a few years off and starting again.
Despite the run we went on, there are definitely room for improvement in the squad. Besides, players can't be expected to perform at same capacity week in week out in over seasons. Should we also aspire to target more silverware besides the league and CL? How we perform in the next 2-3 transfer windows will be important.
Surely how we perform in every transfer window is always important?
Yeah, I mean I don't think we can afford a repeat of the last 2 windows.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...news/premier-league-rule-could-shape-17867902
[article]Club are required to name no more than 17 overseas players in a 25-man squad, with players qualifying as homegrown if they have been “registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).”
Liverpool currently have 17 players on the books who would be classed as homegrown should they remain at Anfield next season. The only issue, when you dig a little deeper, is most of them are expected to move on.
In the Reds’ latest Premier League squad, Klopp named 23 players with Pedro Chirivella, Nathaniel Clyne, Joe Gomez, Jordan Henderson, Adam Lallana, Andy Lonergan, James Milner and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain taking up eight home-grown berths.
From that eight, Chirivella, Clyne, Lallana and Lonergan are all out of contract this summer and look likely to leave on free transfers.
Having previously qualified as an Under-21s player, Trent Alexander-Arnold would now take up one spot with his date of birth coming after the 1 January 1999 cut-off point ensuring he needs to be registered in the Reds’ 25-man squad from next season onwards.
The same is true for Caoimhin Kelleher with the young goalkeeper likely to serve as Liverpool’s third-choice goalkeeper in 2020/21 should he not depart on loan.
Should Harry Wilson, Nat Phillips, Sheyi Ojo and Herbie Kane remain at Anfield following the end of their current loans, they too would need to be registered.
Having been named in the Reds’ 25-man squad during the first half of the season prior to joining Cercle Brugge on loan, the same also applies to Isaac Christie-Davies. Meanwhile, Shamal George and Joe Hardy would also no longer qualify as Under-21s players.
Wilson and Phillips arguably stand the best chance of being part of Klopp’s first team squad next season but even their inclusion currently appears doubtful with their long-term futures in limbo.
As such, Liverpool currently only have five players (Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Henderson, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain) on their books guaranteed to take up a homegrown berth next year with Kelleher taking that total to six should he not leave on loan.
Should Liverpool not sign any homegrown players, their squad will be limited to 23 for the 2020/21 season as a result.
But it’s not just the Reds’ homegrown players that would be affected.
Allowed to name a maximum of 17 overseas players, that quota is currently already scheduled to be taken up, meaning Klopp will have to sell players should he wish to bring in a foreign player such as Werner in the summer.
The Reds named 15 non-homegrown players in their squad for the second half of the current campaign, but the returns of Loris Karius and Marko Grujic from their respective loan spells takes their total to maximum capacity.
Meanwhile, Taiwo Awoniyi, currently on loan at Mainz, offers something of a curveball with the young striker too old to be classed as an Under-21s player but currently still without a work permit to be registered.
Karius is almost certain to have no Anfield future, while the likes of Dejan Lovren and Xherdan Shaqiri could free up spaces if they look to leave Liverpool in the summer. Elsewhere, Grujic could again find himself departing the club, either temporarily or on a permanent basis.
Assuming Karius and Shaqiri depart, with the Reds willing to listen to offers for the pair, Klopp would be left able to sign a maximum of two overseas players.
Of course, as this season has repeatedly shown, Liverpool boast a highly-talented group of Under-21s players with the likes of Rhian Brewster, Harvey Elliott, Paul Glatzel, Ki-Jana Hoever, Curtis Jones, Yasser Larouci, Adam Lewis, Sepp van den Berg, Neco Williams and Ben Woodburn all still eligible to the Reds boss without needing to be registered in his 25-man squad.
But their involvement would just leave Klopp needing to be even more shrewd when it comes to his summer transfer activity.
With limitations in place on incomings, Liverpool’s current squad goes some way to hint at what business the Reds could look to do when the window re-opens as Klopp and Michael Edwards draw up their list of targets.
And as transfer speculation continues, it suggests even more why a move for Norwich City’s Cantwell would make sense, why a move for Sancho can’t be ruled out entirely and why the Reds are yet to show their hand regarding Werner.[/article]
[article]Club are required to name no more than 17 overseas players in a 25-man squad, with players qualifying as homegrown if they have been “registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).”
Liverpool currently have 17 players on the books who would be classed as homegrown should they remain at Anfield next season. The only issue, when you dig a little deeper, is most of them are expected to move on.
In the Reds’ latest Premier League squad, Klopp named 23 players with Pedro Chirivella, Nathaniel Clyne, Joe Gomez, Jordan Henderson, Adam Lallana, Andy Lonergan, James Milner and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain taking up eight home-grown berths.
From that eight, Chirivella, Clyne, Lallana and Lonergan are all out of contract this summer and look likely to leave on free transfers.
Having previously qualified as an Under-21s player, Trent Alexander-Arnold would now take up one spot with his date of birth coming after the 1 January 1999 cut-off point ensuring he needs to be registered in the Reds’ 25-man squad from next season onwards.
The same is true for Caoimhin Kelleher with the young goalkeeper likely to serve as Liverpool’s third-choice goalkeeper in 2020/21 should he not depart on loan.
Should Harry Wilson, Nat Phillips, Sheyi Ojo and Herbie Kane remain at Anfield following the end of their current loans, they too would need to be registered.
Having been named in the Reds’ 25-man squad during the first half of the season prior to joining Cercle Brugge on loan, the same also applies to Isaac Christie-Davies. Meanwhile, Shamal George and Joe Hardy would also no longer qualify as Under-21s players.
Wilson and Phillips arguably stand the best chance of being part of Klopp’s first team squad next season but even their inclusion currently appears doubtful with their long-term futures in limbo.
As such, Liverpool currently only have five players (Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Henderson, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain) on their books guaranteed to take up a homegrown berth next year with Kelleher taking that total to six should he not leave on loan.
Should Liverpool not sign any homegrown players, their squad will be limited to 23 for the 2020/21 season as a result.
But it’s not just the Reds’ homegrown players that would be affected.
Allowed to name a maximum of 17 overseas players, that quota is currently already scheduled to be taken up, meaning Klopp will have to sell players should he wish to bring in a foreign player such as Werner in the summer.
The Reds named 15 non-homegrown players in their squad for the second half of the current campaign, but the returns of Loris Karius and Marko Grujic from their respective loan spells takes their total to maximum capacity.
Meanwhile, Taiwo Awoniyi, currently on loan at Mainz, offers something of a curveball with the young striker too old to be classed as an Under-21s player but currently still without a work permit to be registered.
Karius is almost certain to have no Anfield future, while the likes of Dejan Lovren and Xherdan Shaqiri could free up spaces if they look to leave Liverpool in the summer. Elsewhere, Grujic could again find himself departing the club, either temporarily or on a permanent basis.
Assuming Karius and Shaqiri depart, with the Reds willing to listen to offers for the pair, Klopp would be left able to sign a maximum of two overseas players.
Of course, as this season has repeatedly shown, Liverpool boast a highly-talented group of Under-21s players with the likes of Rhian Brewster, Harvey Elliott, Paul Glatzel, Ki-Jana Hoever, Curtis Jones, Yasser Larouci, Adam Lewis, Sepp van den Berg, Neco Williams and Ben Woodburn all still eligible to the Reds boss without needing to be registered in his 25-man squad.
But their involvement would just leave Klopp needing to be even more shrewd when it comes to his summer transfer activity.
With limitations in place on incomings, Liverpool’s current squad goes some way to hint at what business the Reds could look to do when the window re-opens as Klopp and Michael Edwards draw up their list of targets.
And as transfer speculation continues, it suggests even more why a move for Norwich City’s Cantwell would make sense, why a move for Sancho can’t be ruled out entirely and why the Reds are yet to show their hand regarding Werner.[/article]
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