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Whelan: Agger's finished in Liverpool

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Sorry, Kristian, but unless the interview's been badly translated Agger says more than that. He says he "expects" to start games when fully fit, i.e.he thinks he should then be an automatic choice. Now he's entitled to his view (even if many of us don't think he's actually managed to back it up so far) but blabbing about it in the media like this is unprofessional at best, and at worst looks as though he positively wants to go.
 
Jules I read the interview this morning and to me it was a complete non-story. Here it is in its full from JP.dk.

- Jeg har stadig tre år tilbage af min kontrakt med Liverpool, men det er ikke mig, som bestemmer, om jeg er på banen. Hvis ikke jeg er på banen, og jeg er skadefri, har jeg ingen grund til at være her. Jeg har nu en vis alder, og jeg føler, at jeg har et niveau til at spille i denne klub. Så hvis jeg ikke kommer til at spille, og jeg er uden for i en periode, er det selvfølgelig ikke interessant at være her. Og så må jeg se, hvilke muligheder, jeg har,« svarer Daniel Agger på det direkte spørgsmål om, hvorvidt han er klar til et klubskifte.

Han understreger dog, at tankerne om et klubskifte på grund af manglende spilletid endnu ikke er aktuelle for ham. Dertil har han været skadet i for lang tid, og af den grund føler Daniel Agger ikke, at han kan stille den slags krav. Endnu et eksempel på den svære balancegang, han betræder for tiden.

- Jeg har været skadet i alt for lang tid til, at man kan snakke om sådan noget endnu. I lørdags var det første gang overhovedet med Roy Hodgson som manager, at jeg spillede midterforsvarer i den stærkeste opstilling. Derfor er det for tidligt, men jeg må hele tiden vurdere min situation,« forklarer Agger.


He doesn't say 'he expects to play' he says however he feels he's reached the acquired level to play for Liverpool. He also says it's premature to be talking about him demanding a starting spot.

- I've been injured for far to long to talk about anything like that, he said and added.

- Saturday was my first start ever with Roy Hodgson as manager playing in central. That's why it's to early but I will have to valuate my situation as we go.

If you like you can use these comments of his to beat him with but in my opinion he doesn't say anything you wouldn't expect of any other young player around who's got ambition.
 
IMO Agger should be an automatic starter when fit.

He is much better than Skrtel and Carra is past his best although still my preferred CH partner for Agger. That may change with the emergence of Wilson.
 
Roland, I disagree. Even if I agreed with your assessment of those players' relative merits (and I don't - Agger's not come even close to proving he's "much better than Skrtel" IMO) nobody should ever be an automatic starter.
 
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KHL, if we get laudrup, will you defend him even if he gets us relegated? 😉
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Haha..

Of course not mate. I'd be calling him whatever clever name Brendan had comed up with.

It'll never happen though. We'd be the greatest team ever.
 
Nobody should ever be an automatic starter. I would agree with that but the state of our squad demands it.

Judge if you can't see that Skrtel's positional sense is poor and he is rash in the tackle then we're obviously not watching the same player. Agger is better without a doubt.

The only thing that Skrtel has over Agger is a better injury record.
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42932.msg1242834#msg1242834 date=1294172072]
KHL, if we get laudrup, will you defend him even if he gets us relegated? 😉
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Haha..

Of course not mate. I'd be calling him whatever clever name Brendan had comed up with.

It'll never happen though. We'd be the greatest team ever.
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heh heh 🙂
 
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Nobody should ever be an automatic starter. I would agree with that but the state of our squad demands it.

Judge if you can't see that Skrtel's positional sense is poor and he is rash in the tackle then we're obviously not watching the same player. Agger is better without a doubt.

The only thing that Skrtel has over Agger is a better injury record.
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skrtel's positioning is a disgrace. I see gray was praising the last ditch tackle from martin the other night while negleting to mention if he'd read the cross he wouldn't NEED to make a last ditch tackle.
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42932.msg1242841#msg1242841 date=1294172889]
Nobody should ever be an automatic starter. I would agree with that but the state of our squad demands it.

Judge if you can't see that Skrtel's positional sense is poor and he is rash in the tackle then we're obviously not watching the same player. Agger is better without a doubt.

The only thing that Skrtel has over Agger is a better injury record.
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Skrtel's positional sense has certainly been poor this season, but whose hasn't back there? You said Agger is "much better". I don't think his performances until this season have earned that description, and he hasn't played this season so there's no way of knowing if he'd have been any better, let alone "much better", than Skrtel under Roy and his coaches.

Nor do I agree with your last sentence/para. Skrtel doesn't look as snazzy on the ball but he's both quicker and stronger than Agger.
 
Injury free record.

We can agree to disagree Judge but I'm certainly not alone in my thinking that Agger is better than Skrtel. I'll even discount KHL's views on this one.
 
I agree yours may well be the majority view, Roland, but I don't think the hard evidence is there to justify that view - though I will admit I hesitate somewhat when I reflect that Roy seems to agree with me. 😉
 
Roy agreeing with you is an indictment if ever I saw one.

I'm a bit worried that we haven't signed anyone yet. Did Comoli fall of to sleep in some cheap hotel with a hooker on a drinking binge?
 
Isn't Comolli as DOF responsible for that with Roy giving input but not having the final say?
 
A while ago Comolli said the decisions would be taken by a trio consisting of himself, Roy and Tom Werner, each of whom would have an equal say. Whether that's changed in the meantime, after results like the one against Wolves, I wouldn't like to guess, but it isn't a chance I'd want to take. This was always one of the reasons why Roy should have been let go earlier.
 
I just hope they've singled out their man already and then it's just down to make the call.





- So, Mr. Laudrup, who do want us to buy?
 
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I just hope they've singled out their man already and then it's just down to make the call.

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I'm afraid I strongly disagree. It's highly likely that the kind of manager we really need is already in a job somewhere. We're not going to get such a person overnight.
 
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[quote author=KHL link=topic=42932.msg1243095#msg1243095 date=1294221921]
I just hope they've singled out their man already and then it's just down to make the call.

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I'm afraid I strongly disagree. It's highly likely that the kind of manager we really need is already in a job somewhere. We're not going to get such a person overnight.
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I guess you missed my point mate. Laudrup for instance is already in a job and I hope as well as you do that our next manager is not a free agent at this stage.

That doesn't prevent us from trying to tie up the man already and give him some influence at least on our January transfer window. Hence the 'make the call'-comment.
 
Bayer Leverkusen coach Jupp Heynckes has revealed they've dropped their pursuit of Liverpool defender Dan Agger.

Heynckes admitted Agger's injury record presented too much of a risk for the Bundesliga giants.

"Agger was our goal in the past, and I must say that he is very good. Unfortunately I have major concerns regarding his physical condition, as he is always injured, and also he costs too much compared to his true value.

"For these reasons we've abandoned the trail leading to him."
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I just hope they've singled out their man already and then it's just down to make the call.

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I'm afraid I strongly disagree. It's highly likely that the kind of manager we really need is already in a job somewhere. We're not going to get such a person overnight.
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I guess you missed my point mate. Laudrup for instance is already in a job and I hope as well as you do that our next manager is not a free agent at this stage.

That doesn't prevent us from trying to tie up the man already and give him some influence at least on our January transfer window. Hence the 'make the call'-comment.
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Understood, but I still wouldn't be happy if they've made their minds up this quickly. It seems rushed to me, and I can't imagine they'd really have had a chance to make a comprehensive trawl through ALL the possible candidates.
 
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42932.msg1243100#msg1243100 date=1294222685]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42932.msg1243095#msg1243095 date=1294221921]
I just hope they've singled out their man already and then it's just down to make the call.

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I'm afraid I strongly disagree. It's highly likely that the kind of manager we really need is already in a job somewhere. We're not going to get such a person overnight.
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I guess you missed my point mate. Laudrup for instance is already in a job and I hope as well as you do that our next manager is not a free agent at this stage.

That doesn't prevent us from trying to tie up the man already and give him some influence at least on our January transfer window. Hence the 'make the call'-comment.
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Understood, but I still wouldn't be happy if they've made their minds up this quickly. It seems rushed to me, and I can't imagine they'd really have had a chance to make a comprehensive trawl through ALL the possible candidates.
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I believe it's fair to demand a bit more than that. It's not like there's a 100 managers outthere for this job. We're talking ten-twenty potential candidates at most and by now they should be well aware of whom they want and whom is available.
 
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