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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=36552.msg966925#msg966925 date=1256072222]
I think Jono could be right. Not to worry though - I'm sure Steve Nicol will be available.
[/quote]

Arf!
 
sorry buddha but I am really not optimistic at all to say the least... I'd like to be, but I just can't see it..

The differance with UTD... they can get results without playing well and without a full strength side...

as for us so far this season.. well.. you just watched it *again* tonight... and well UTD owe us one...
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=36552.msg966872#msg966872 date=1256071677]
Sorry Rafa-fans but this is a bona fide crisis and the manager is one of those most accountable for that.

It's not just the results but the performances. Something is very, very wrong.
[/quote]

yup.. has he lost the dressing room... i dunno I don't think its comes to that yet... But you could probably say its split down the middle with some.

Their has been one or two players voicing their opinions since the beginning of the season.. which is a cause for concern.
 
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg966929#msg966929 date=1256072256]
sorry buddha but I am really not optimistic at all to say the least... I'd like to be, but I just can't see it..

The differance with UTD... they can get results without playing well and without a full strength side...

as for us so far this season.. well.. you just watched it *again* tonight... and well UTD owe us one...
[/quote]

Fair enough, but I've been confident all week that we'd lose tonight and beat the mancs comfortably on sunday. I'm sticking with it.

Should that happen (granted the second result looks remote given tonight), any talk of "Rafa out" will look ridiculously premature. Like I said, we'd be only 4 points off man utd having survived a serious dip in form.
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966954#msg966954 date=1256072546]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg966929#msg966929 date=1256072256]
sorry buddha but I am really not optimistic at all to say the least... I'd like to be, but I just can't see it..

The differance with UTD... they can get results without playing well and without a full strength side...

as for us so far this season.. well.. you just watched it *again* tonight... and well UTD owe us one...
[/quote]

Fair enough, but I've been confident all week that we'd lose tonight and beat the mancs comfortably on sunday. I'm sticking with it.

Should that happen (granted the second result looks remote given tonight), any talk of "Rafa out" will look ridiculously premature. Like I said, we'd be only 4 points off man utd having survived a serious dip in form.
[/quote]


even if we do beat them its what we do after that, that concerns me more... Our squad is lacking to challenge...

its like De Ja Vu.. the Houllier era all over again..
 
'Dips in form' aren't acts determined by capricious Gods, they're primarily the consequences of decisions by management.

They indicate that something is wrong, not that things can only get better.
 
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg966969#msg966969 date=1256072715]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966954#msg966954 date=1256072546]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg966929#msg966929 date=1256072256]
sorry buddha but I am really not optimistic at all to say the least... I'd like to be, but I just can't see it..

The differance with UTD... they can get results without playing well and without a full strength side...

as for us so far this season.. well.. you just watched it *again* tonight... and well UTD owe us one...
[/quote]

Fair enough, but I've been confident all week that we'd lose tonight and beat the mancs comfortably on sunday. I'm sticking with it.

Should that happen (granted the second result looks remote given tonight), any talk of "Rafa out" will look ridiculously premature. Like I said, we'd be only 4 points off man utd having survived a serious dip in form.
[/quote]


even if we do beat them its what we do after that, that concerns me more... Our squad is lacking to challenge...
[/quote]

With Aquilani to come in for Alonso and an improved right back our squad is little changed from last seasons title-challenging one. I don't remember anyone bemoaning our squad towards the end of last season.
 
well said carra liverpool are always up for it no matter whats happening on or off the band wagon of the prem league lets turn over the mancs and resume normal service YNWA LFC.
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=36552.msg966978#msg966978 date=1256072827]
'Dips in form' aren't acts determined by capricious Gods, they're primarily the consequences of decisions by management.

They indicate that something is wrong, not that things can only get better.
[/quote]

Dips in form are most probably down to capricious fate and management decisions. It's not fair to place the blame solely at one or the other.
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966984#msg966984 date=1256072878]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg966969#msg966969 date=1256072715]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966954#msg966954 date=1256072546]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg966929#msg966929 date=1256072256]
sorry buddha but I am really not optimistic at all to say the least... I'd like to be, but I just can't see it..

The differance with UTD... they can get results without playing well and without a full strength side...

as for us so far this season.. well.. you just watched it *again* tonight... and well UTD owe us one...
[/quote]

Fair enough, but I've been confident all week that we'd lose tonight and beat the mancs comfortably on sunday. I'm sticking with it.

Should that happen (granted the second result looks remote given tonight), any talk of "Rafa out" will look ridiculously premature. Like I said, we'd be only 4 points off man utd having survived a serious dip in form.
[/quote]


even if we do beat them its what we do after that, that concerns me more... Our squad is lacking to challenge...
[/quote]

With Aquilani to come in for Alonso and an improved right back our squad is little changed from last seasons title-challenging one. I don't remember anyone bemoaning our squad towards the end of last season.
[/quote]

Yes but unfortunately Aquilani hasn't been available for almost 3 fucking months.
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966999#msg966999 date=1256073001]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=36552.msg966978#msg966978 date=1256072827]
'Dips in form' aren't acts determined by capricious Gods, they're primarily the consequences of decisions by management.

They indicate that something is wrong, not that things can only get better.
[/quote]

Dips in form are most probably down to capricious fate and management decisions. It's not fair to place the blame solely at one or the other.
[/quote]

I disagree.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=36552.msg967013#msg967013 date=1256073121]
Another war and the world will be over.

Great thread this.
[/quote]

Not if it's in Somalia, or Sudan, or DRC
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36552.msg967004#msg967004 date=1256073053]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966984#msg966984 date=1256072878]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg966969#msg966969 date=1256072715]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966954#msg966954 date=1256072546]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg966929#msg966929 date=1256072256]
sorry buddha but I am really not optimistic at all to say the least... I'd like to be, but I just can't see it..

The differance with UTD... they can get results without playing well and without a full strength side...

as for us so far this season.. well.. you just watched it *again* tonight... and well UTD owe us one...
[/quote]

Fair enough, but I've been confident all week that we'd lose tonight and beat the mancs comfortably on sunday. I'm sticking with it.

Should that happen (granted the second result looks remote given tonight), any talk of "Rafa out" will look ridiculously premature. Like I said, we'd be only 4 points off man utd having survived a serious dip in form.
[/quote]


even if we do beat them its what we do after that, that concerns me more... Our squad is lacking to challenge...
[/quote]

With Aquilani to come in for Alonso and an improved right back our squad is little changed from last seasons title-challenging one. I don't remember anyone bemoaning our squad towards the end of last season.
[/quote]

Yes but unfortunately Aquilani hasn't been available for almost 3 fucking months.
[/quote]

which is why I said he's to come in. I'm responding to Johnno's claim that we lack a squad to challenge - with Aquilani to come in our squad isn't much different from last year.
 
How can you say that? Aqualani has never even played for us.

Talk about making hare-brained assumptions.
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=36552.msg967011#msg967011 date=1256073115]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966999#msg966999 date=1256073001]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=36552.msg966978#msg966978 date=1256072827]
'Dips in form' aren't acts determined by capricious Gods, they're primarily the consequences of decisions by management.

They indicate that something is wrong, not that things can only get better.
[/quote]

Dips in form are most probably down to capricious fate and management decisions. It's not fair to place the blame solely at one or the other.
[/quote]

I disagree.
[/quote]

I guess you'd agree that Rafa made some pretty good decisions then last season running Man utd so close in the league.
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg967018#msg967018 date=1256073178]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36552.msg967004#msg967004 date=1256073053]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966984#msg966984 date=1256072878]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg966969#msg966969 date=1256072715]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966954#msg966954 date=1256072546]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg966929#msg966929 date=1256072256]
sorry buddha but I am really not optimistic at all to say the least... I'd like to be, but I just can't see it..

The differance with UTD... they can get results without playing well and without a full strength side...

as for us so far this season.. well.. you just watched it *again* tonight... and well UTD owe us one...
[/quote]

Fair enough, but I've been confident all week that we'd lose tonight and beat the mancs comfortably on sunday. I'm sticking with it.

Should that happen (granted the second result looks remote given tonight), any talk of "Rafa out" will look ridiculously premature. Like I said, we'd be only 4 points off man utd having survived a serious dip in form.
[/quote]


even if we do beat them its what we do after that, that concerns me more... Our squad is lacking to challenge...
[/quote]

With Aquilani to come in for Alonso and an improved right back our squad is little changed from last seasons title-challenging one. I don't remember anyone bemoaning our squad towards the end of last season.
[/quote]

Yes but unfortunately Aquilani hasn't been available for almost 3 fucking months.
[/quote]

which is why I said he's to come in. I'm responding to Johnno's claim that we lack a squad to challenge - with Aquilani to come in our squad isn't much different from last year.
[/quote]

I know but I fear that the damage will have been done by then.
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966984#msg966984 date=1256072878]

With Aquilani to come in for Alonso and an improved right back our squad is little changed from last seasons title-challenging one. I don't remember anyone bemoaning our squad towards the end of last season.
[/quote]

Aquilani is an unproven quantity and as for improved right back that argument is open up for debate, at least when it comes to the basics of being a right back...Defending!!.. Arbeloa, although he wasn't a great footballer.. was solid as far as right backs go.. Our defense looked far better with him in the side..
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=36552.msg967013#msg967013 date=1256073121]
Another war and the world will be over.

Great thread this.
[/quote]

Told you not to come here.

There's knees and jerks all over the place.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=36552.msg967041#msg967041 date=1256073366]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=36552.msg967013#msg967013 date=1256073121]
Another war and the world will be over.

Great thread this.
[/quote]

Told you not to come here.

There's knees and jerks all over the place.
[/quote]

Hmmmm now I know who you are! 🙂
 
Aquilani looks well weird, there was a shot of him sitting next to Torres during the game. He looks like a hobbit.
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=36552.msg967026#msg967026 date=1256073254]
How can you say that? Aqualani has never even played for us.

Talk about making hare-brained assumptions.
[/quote]

because he's widely regarded as a very good player (as was Alonso). Even if he's not as good as hoped he's only one player in a squad of 25.

I said the squad is likely little changed with the improvement at right back to add to the unknown quantity that is Aquilani.
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg967029#msg967029 date=1256073273]
I guess you'd agree that Rafa made some pretty good decisions then last season running Man utd so close in the league.
[/quote]

Yes, he did.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36552.msg967033#msg967033 date=1256073279]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg967018#msg967018 date=1256073178]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36552.msg967004#msg967004 date=1256073053]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966984#msg966984 date=1256072878]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg966969#msg966969 date=1256072715]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg966954#msg966954 date=1256072546]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg966929#msg966929 date=1256072256]
sorry buddha but I am really not optimistic at all to say the least... I'd like to be, but I just can't see it..

The differance with UTD... they can get results without playing well and without a full strength side...

as for us so far this season.. well.. you just watched it *again* tonight... and well UTD owe us one...
[/quote]

Fair enough, but I've been confident all week that we'd lose tonight and beat the mancs comfortably on sunday. I'm sticking with it.

Should that happen (granted the second result looks remote given tonight), any talk of "Rafa out" will look ridiculously premature. Like I said, we'd be only 4 points off man utd having survived a serious dip in form.
[/quote]


even if we do beat them its what we do after that, that concerns me more... Our squad is lacking to challenge...
[/quote]

With Aquilani to come in for Alonso and an improved right back our squad is little changed from last seasons title-challenging one. I don't remember anyone bemoaning our squad towards the end of last season.
[/quote]

Yes but unfortunately Aquilani hasn't been available for almost 3 fucking months.
[/quote]

which is why I said he's to come in. I'm responding to Johnno's claim that we lack a squad to challenge - with Aquilani to come in our squad isn't much different from last year.
[/quote]

I know but I fear that the damage will have been done by then.
[/quote]

You're probably right in terms of winning the title this season. Rafa's gamble has backfired. But once Aquilani comes in I think it'd be fair to hope we'll improve in addition to our inevitable recovery from the present slump.
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg967046#msg967046 date=1256073417]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=36552.msg967026#msg967026 date=1256073254]
How can you say that? Aqualani has never even played for us.

Talk about making hare-brained assumptions.
[/quote]

because he's widely regarded as a very good player (as was Alonso). Even if he's not as good as hoped he's only one player in a squad of 25.

I said the squad is likely little changed with the improvement at right back to add to the unknown quantity that is Aquilani.


[/quote]

Babel was widely regarded as a very good player..
As was Lucas..
As was Morientes..
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg967046#msg967046 date=1256073417]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=36552.msg967026#msg967026 date=1256073254]
How can you say that? Aqualani has never even played for us.
Talk about making hare-brained assumptions.[/quote]
because he's widely regarded as a very good player (as was Alonso). Even if he's not as good as hoped he's only one player in a squad of 25.
I said the squad is likely little changed with the improvement at right back to add to the unknown quantity that is Aquilani.
[/quote]
So we replaced our playmaker with an unknown quantity and failed to clear out some of the dead wood but you think that's ok?
 
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg967058#msg967058 date=1256073563]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg967046#msg967046 date=1256073417]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=36552.msg967026#msg967026 date=1256073254]
How can you say that? Aqualani has never even played for us.

Talk about making hare-brained assumptions.
[/quote]

because he's widely regarded as a very good player (as was Alonso). Even if he's not as good as hoped he's only one player in a squad of 25.

I said the squad is likely little changed with the improvement at right back to add to the unknown quantity that is Aquilani.


[/quote]

Babel was widely regarded as a very good player..
As was Lucas..
As was Morientes..


[/quote]

As was Torres
As was Masher
As was Benayoun
As was Agger

etc
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg967065#msg967065 date=1256073641]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=36552.msg967058#msg967058 date=1256073563]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=36552.msg967046#msg967046 date=1256073417]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=36552.msg967026#msg967026 date=1256073254]
How can you say that? Aqualani has never even played for us.

Talk about making hare-brained assumptions.
[/quote]

because he's widely regarded as a very good player (as was Alonso). Even if he's not as good as hoped he's only one player in a squad of 25.

I said the squad is likely little changed with the improvement at right back to add to the unknown quantity that is Aquilani.


[/quote]

Babel was widely regarded as a very good player..
As was Lucas..
As was Morientes..


[/quote]

As was Torres
As was Masher
As was Benayoun
As was Agger

etc
[/quote]


True... but the point i am trying to make.. is their is no guarantee he will make the grade..

I'm crossing my fingers he does though, I really am.


Dossena is another recent example...
 
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