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Watford post-match

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I don't get that. Our front three is regarded as one of the best fron three trios in the world. Salah and Mane is top 10 players in the world. These three players play because there ain't much higher quality out there. Our midfield is not exactly seen as the best midfield in the world, and people can't believe that a midfield of Milner-Hendo-Wijnaldum has just played back to back CL finals. We rotate the midfield cuase they aren't the best in the world, there has been injuries and we normally don't rotate them too much anyway.

It is nothing about pressure. We rely on that front three to win us games and normally they do that. When Barca had Neymar-Suarez-Messi upfront they played thme cause it increased the chances of winning games. One day off for them didn't mean that they looked to offload them or need to press them more?

Our front 3 are one of the best trio's when firing on all cylinders. There is always enough quality if you wanna compete for all the trophies. This shouldn't be too difficult to understand,.
 
We have a lot of midfield players, but it's a bit depressing (and a worry) that it's an area of the team that has been very heavily invested in, but we still struggle to cope without Henderson, miss Milner badly, and are still unconvinced about Keita and Chamberlain.

And Fabinho's been utter wank since he came back into the side too.

But obviously, we do need more attacking options, Christ alive we do.


Midfield will always sort itself out as there are enough players to fill the void for the odd game or 2. Kieta has been massive disappointment and the likes of mimi are are way off. In attack we have origi and thats it.
 
Midfield will always sort itself out as there are enough players to fill the void for the odd game or 2. Kieta has been massive disappointment and the likes of mimi are are way off. In attack we have origi and thats it.

Totally forgot about Minamino. Unsurprisingly.
 
Lots of mentions of us needing a De Bruyne type player, sure he’s the best player in the league, but watching Aguero or Kane or Aubameyang makes me wonder how a proper striker would’ve fared over the last couple of games. Just someone making the right runs, taking up dangerous positions and most importantly finishing.
 
Anyone else find themselves remarkably unbothered by this loss?

basically, that's where i am ...
although it sucks that i have to explain to my kids that 'losing' is part of football now as they thought Liverpool only win this year


We play Chelsea in the FA Cup Tuesday, and they (Chelsea) are not playing that well at the moment, so should we beat them (which with the changes I expect, Lovren out, VVD back to normal) most here will convince themselves that the Watford game was just a blip, and that normal service has been resumed. But in truth the problems are still there, but we can, or Klopp can try to address them...

Drop the likes or Origi, give Jones his chance, Midfield the Ox is only good for 10-20 minutes a game (When he is trying to impress) so limit him to that, Lallana is limited. Very good at the press but very little besides that...
We have Keita, Minamino, Milner, yes Keita had a horse the other day, but the Ox has herds.
This should be the way we should go for the remained of the Premiere league fixtures. There is very little chance of us losing the title.
The CL our hands are tied to an extent with players we can play
I don't believe it was the lost as much (it was always coming) It was; I believe more the manner of that lost which stirred up the anger, and the fact that we all knew were the faults laid in the squad before the kick off
 
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Lots of mentions of us needing a De Bruyne type player, sure he’s the best player in the league, but watching Aguero or Kane or Aubameyang makes me wonder how a proper striker would’ve fared over the last couple of games. Just someone making the right runs, taking up dangerous positions and most importantly finishing.

Our finishing haven't been to sharp. Salah and Firmino especially wasteful. Mane with some proper finishing though.

Looking at both Watford and At Madrid I haven't seen much room to make runs into. Both theams have been swarming their own box and in addition been extreme disciplined. Their fullback are not dragged out of position and they keep the distance between their players so compact that we struggled to find any openings. Even when we managed to set up our fullbacks around their defence and put crosses in the box all I saw was 8-9 and even 10 yellow shirts. We really have to take our chances in these games.
 
We play Chelsea in the FA Cup Tuesday, and they (Chelsea) are not playing that well at the moment, so should we beat them (which with the changes I expect, Lovren out, VVD back to normal) most here will convince themselves that the Watford game was just a blip, and that normal service has been resumed. But in truth the problems are still there, but we can, or Klopp can try to address them...

Drop the likes or Origi, give Jones his chance, Midfield the Ox is only good for 10-20 minutes a game (When he is trying to impress) so limit him to that, Lallana is limited. Very good at the press but very little besides that...
We Keita, Minamino, Milner, yes Keita had a horse the other day, but the Ox has herds.
This should be the way we should go for the remained of the Premiere league fixtures. There is very little chance of us losing the title.
The CL our hands are tied to an extent with players we can play
I don't believe it was the lost as much (it was always coming) It was; I believe more the manner of that lost which stirred up the anger, and the fact that we all knew were the faults laid in the squad before the kick off
Agree with most of that - but I would like to see Origi given a few games in the middle. And Lallana did produce a cracking volley.
 
WAT THE FUCK WAS THAT??!!!! I was going to do some ratings, but this will be more like HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTIIIINNNGGS! Amirite?

Jesus Christ that was verrrry awful. Of course the run had to end some time, and everyone could see the signs since January, with several flat, uninspired and lethargic performances, which can't all be down to missing Henderson. Indeed, almost everyone was worried after the scrappy West Ham performance, and sure enough against Watford we served up that atrocity.
It's easy to blame it all on Lovren - because he's shit - but nobody can be very proud of themselves, as Watford outplayed and outfought us, led by the electric Sarr and Deeney's gleeful destruction of Lovren. We had no answers or inspiration from midfield and the attacking trio were dreadful. Worrying times.

Alisson (6) Was much busier than he would have wanted, having to clear his own lines several times as he was left alone to deal with breaking runners, and made a couple of good saves to keep the score down.

TAA (3) Couldn't deliver any magic in attack spraying the ball about willy-nilly. Fell asleep several times and gave the ball away cheaply. Culpable for the third goal and overall not a great evening at all. In fact, he was rubbish.

Lovren (3) I don't think anyone was happy to see the lumbering Croat back in the team - apart from Watford - and he was duly given a rinsing by the the hulking Sloth-like Deeney, and thus kept a distracted Lovren from doing his job properly. We had the usual panicky clearances and mistimed leaps to totally miss the ball, stupid fouls and cretinous positioning. Welcome back Lovren, you useless cunt!

Van Dijk (4) Oh how he loves playing with Lovren! Although it's hard to blame Lovren when Van Dijk played like he had overdosed on Xanax; he was a somnambulist in a red shirt for two goals, and was made to look mortal by the jet-heeled Sarr as he ambled around looking half-dazed.

Robertson (5) Struggled to get his range right with his passing, but he was better than the rest of the defence, which is a bit like saying Myra Hindley was maybe a bit nicer than Ian Brady, but whatever. Had a shot on target, which is more than anyone else managed. He was mediocre, and therefore arguably Man Of The Match. Hurray!

Fabinho (3) Thinking about it, C-3PO would have been a more athletic, aggressive and influential selection in midfield. He was so fucking slow and dozy in almost everything he did; he made a couple of interceptions, almost by accident, but every time he got the ball it was like he'd had a lobotomy. Fucking dreadful and if we had any other options he shouldn't be anywhere near the team. In fact, I'd drop him for fucking R2-D2, never mind C-3PO.

Wijnaldum (3) Is anybody there? There seems to be a .....presence, but so very faint.....Can you hear us, oh spirits? Knock twice or give us some kind of sign!...........Nah, there's nobody there, fuck it.

Chamberlain (5) The only player who didn't appear to be heavily sedated in the first half, at least he seemed able to run and go past players, even if he did fuck all with the ball afterwards. Came out in the second half apparently, but I only noticed him when he went off again. A mediocre triumph then.

Salah (3) Not sure he actually touched the ball more than twice. Oh wait, yeah he did, because he kept fucking passing it to Watford players. Didn't have a shot on target all afternoon. A totally miserable display, but he wasn't really given that much to work with.

Mane (4) Couple of half-arsed attempts at trying to beat his man, gave up entirely after the break as he realised nothing was going to work, and then saw fucking Origi come on, so what is even the point? Almost as shit as Salah, but passed to Watford less often.

Firmino (n/a) I'm not even sure how to score this. I mean, what is the role of a striker? Scoring? Assisting? Clever passes into his fellow attacking team-mates? Making space for them? Did none of that, but he ran about a bit and as usual didn't score. That's two league goals so far this year, and a truly pathetic 8 in total. Did fuck all.

Subs: I dunno, some bellends came on, who fucking cares?
Usually i find your ratings rather harsh and i feel as if therer are undertones of mild "oh i better give this lad something but i think he is shit normally" - almost a type of forced rating. But I think this time you have gone too far, by being uncharacteristically generous. It would have been fitting if you had given them all a rating between 1 and 2 with Lovren a 0.75.
 
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