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Vs Leeds (H) 19:45 Sat

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I dont want to see Gomez start again either. Just get the last 3 games out of the way so we can have a break. Actually looking forward to the World Cup and can forget about this horrendous shit.
 
Why do we need to blame someone?
Natural reaction I suppose.

This team, one of our best ever, is at it's end. We could push for the champions league but we'll see what hand we are dealt after the world cup.

As a club, we should be backing Klopp to rebuild. But that's gonna take a lot of money. If we can shift on some of our big names that seem to have lost their fire, that might allow that.

I'm talking VVD, Fab, Thiago but I'd keep Salah.
 
VvD has been poor this season ... Our spine used to be insane, but now, two of the key players are average *at best* (Fabinho & VvD).
VVD is only human, and when you have two for the back four (RB& RCB)not doing thier job how can VVD be to blame..??
Did't want to talk about Gomez. Just want him out of the club.
Best thing that I can say about him is that he is a Fucking Liability, been saying it four at least the last four season, and people here are starting to notice
 
I dont want to see Gomez start again either. Just get the last 3 games out of the way so we can have a break. Actually looking forward to the World Cup and can forget about this horrendous shit.

why even bother with the world cup?
i'm not even sure i'll watch most of the games (maybe semis and final).
 
i don't think he was that bad.
he's just not ever going to be good enough to be in a midfield 3 if that's the formation klopp will stick to until _______ (he gets fired or retires)

Jones isn't a midfielder because midfielder needs to know how to pass the ball. He's a winger who like to run at people
 
Today was on Klopp.

It was CLEAR from the FIRST HALF that the 4-4-2 diamond was NOT working.

We needed to switch to either a 4-4-2 flat or a 4-3-3 and get some width. Leeds tucked in their FBs and defended us easily. What's worse is their FBs were still able to get forward and join attacks because by the time we won the ball and countered (slowly) they were already back in shape.

VERY poor from Jurgen today.

Deserved defeat. There was nothing redeeming from the performance today.
 
i don't think he was that bad.
he's just not ever going to be good enough to be in a midfield 3 if that's the formation klopp will stick to until _______ (he gets fired or retires)

He was absolutely awful ... yet again. He loses possession or almost gets caught out, constantly, his brain is on a completely different wavelength to any other human being and even if Mo, Bobby or Nunez could even get on that wavelength he'd do what he did today, play shite passes too long or to the opposition. He's a total waste of space that I'd rather we give to one of our U21s. People make excuses for him over and over and over again.
 
Today was on Klopp.

It was CLEAR from the FIRST HALF that the 4-4-2 diamond was NOT working.

We needed to switch to either a 4-4-2 flat or a 4-3-3 and get some width. Leeds tucked in their FBs and defended us easily. What's worse is their FBs were still able to get forward and join attacks because by the time we won the ball and countered (slowly) they were already back in shape.

VERY poor from Jurgen today.

Deserved defeat. There was nothing redeeming from the performance today.

Yep, it was very difficult to see what the plan was in that first half
 
Jones isn't a midfielder because midfielder needs to know how to pass the ball. He's a winger who like to run at people

He's just not very good, and he never really found a place in our team, even when it was playing really well.

Now, we require all sorts of leadership and quality and he just doesn't have it. He should be a useful backup.
 
Gomez should never be starting. He’s awful. Anyone ready to defend his cause left?

When Jones came on I just sighed. He’s ok at best but gets an extra star on his rating cuz he’s local and he’s a great lad (no sarcasm).

Forget Jude for £150mill. Split that on two reliably fit good quality midfielders who can go on to become top drawer. One CM ain’t enough.
 
He's just not very good, and he never really found a place in our team, even when it was playing really well.

Now, we require all sorts of leadership and quality and he just doesn't have it. He should be a useful backup.

If he can't claim a place in the team when so many are off form, then we ought to sell him in the summer.

He won't improve sitting on our bench to become a useful enough backup.
 
I admire the passion Elliot has but let's be honest he isn't the level of a Foden or Mason Mount or Maddison or Bellingham how on earth is he a regular starter for Liverpool FC is just sad.
 
This team is finished, those who haven't realized it yet are in for a long season. We need probably 4 first team players next summer to be competitive, thats players that go straight into the XI not Carvahlo type long-term projects.
 
And what were our experienced pros playing at the last 10 mins? Hendo shooting from 30 m with half the team around the box ahead of him, Milner thumping it upfield straight into the GK's hands, Mo thrashing at it with others better places.

We were causing problems every time we got it wide and then into the box. However our shite season has got to them, mentality monsters? When we needed cool heads they panicked instead of realising there was plenty of time remaining.
 
The team isn't finished , Elliott shouldn't be near a starting midfield 3, matip and Konate are both infinitely better than Gomez, were seriously missing Diaz' creativity

Once the above are back / yeeted from starting xi we will be fine
 
He's just not very good, and he never really found a place in our team, even when it was playing really well.

Now, we require all sorts of leadership and quality and he just doesn't have it. He should be a useful backup.
Define 'useful'. If you mean boot boy I agree.
 
And what were our experienced pros playing at the last 10 mins? Hendo shooting from 30 m with half the team around the box ahead of him, Milner thumping it upfield straight into the GK's hands, Mo thrashing at it with others better places.

We were causing problems every time we got it wide and then into the box. However our shite season has got to them, mentality monsters? When we needed cool heads they panicked instead of realising there was plenty of time remaining.

I think when you're a team playing on eggshells, and you're low on confidence, 'mentality monsters' isn't likely.
It takes a long time to build that ... and it may be rebuilt again, though I'm skeptical it will be with Klopp or within the next few years.
The owners blew a chance at having a proper dominant spell after we won the league ... should have invested big time but alas, it's the end of a great era.
I just hope I'm not in my 70s the next time we win the league.
If we are though, I doubt I'll be celebrating it here!
 
I think when you're a team playing on eggshells, and you're low on confidence, 'mentality monsters' isn't likely.
It takes a long time to build that ... and it may be rebuilt again, though I'm skeptical it will be with Klopp or within the next few years.
The owners blew a chance at having a proper dominant spell after we won the league ... should have invested big time but alas, it's the end of a great era.
I just hope I'm not in my 70s the next time we win the league.
If we are though, I doubt I'll be celebrating it here!

Well, Covid and investing in the training ground were the reasons there was no building on the team at that time
 
Believe it or not, I actually enjoyed the game. Performance-wise it was a big improvement on the soul-crushing way we played at Forest; there were some decent individual performances – I thought VVD did exceptionally well in several key individual battles under severe pressure as the last defender, Thiago was starting to play more like himself, Trent's passing was good, Salah almost conjured what would have been one of the best goals of his career... We were far from great, obviously, but players were actually trying stuff and being inventive, not going through the motions within a stale system. It was watchable.

But this is where the cruel logic of football comes in; just when you think you're so close to turning it around, you get the crushing blow – and to be fair, Leeds did deserve their goal and their win. This game was not lost tonight because of our players' poor decisions or even Meslier's heroics; us putting ourselves in a position of hoping to edge Leeds in a wild and even end-to-end game at Anfield was a result of a whole string of decisions and circumstances, injuries etc – everything we talked about to death here. All of this seems to have crystallized in one moment of ball somehow finding perfect connection with Summerville's foot 8 yards from goal between 3 of our players – it was as logical as a Mike Tyson knockout blow. In retrospect you realize that the main mistake wasn't made in that particular moment; it's every move you made before that led you to it.

Let's get off the canvas, lick our wounds and prepare to fight another day. Days like these is when YNWA actually means something.
 
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Believe it or not, I actually enjoyed the game. Performance-wise it was a big improvement on the soul-crushing way we played at Forest; there were some decent individual performances – I thought VVD did exceptionally well in several key individual battles under severe pressure as the last defender, Thiago was starting to play more like himself, Trent's passing was good, Salah almost scored one of the best goals of his career... We were far from great, obviously, but players were actually trying stuff and being inventive, not going through the motions like there were too many times before. It was watchable.

But that's the where the cruel logic of football comes in; just when you think you're so close to turning it around, you get the crushing blow – and to be fair, Leeds did deserve their goal and their win. This game was not lost tonight because of our players' poor decisions or even Meslier's heroics, us putting ourselves in a position of hoping to edge Leeds in a wild and even end-to-end game at Anfield was a result of a whole string of decisions and circumstances, injuries etc – everything we talked about to death here. All of this seems to have crystallized in one moment of ball somehow finding perfect connection with Summerville's foot 8 yards from goal between 3 of our players – it was as logical as a Mike Tyson knockout blow. In retrospect you realize that the mistake wasn't made in that particular moment; it's every move you made before it that led you to it.

Let's get off the canvas, lick our wounds and go again. Days like these is when YNWA actually means something.

Just keep posting please ... 🙂
 
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