Virgiling on the vandijkulous
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Agree, some classics, normally based on a moment of lucid stupity by a poster, continue to mature with age - the other examples, however, are boring, repititive, unimaginative crap, that might just possibly have raised an ironic smile the first time, but do nothing other than induce a coma on the 3,743,551st repitition.
Can someone that really knows their shit tell us how many 'hits' compared to 'flops' Southampton have had? Joke or not, my perception is they seem to be pretty much on the money with most of their signing and if they had accumulated rather than sold they would pretty much be in the top 4 for certain. I do realize they reinvested the funds from sales to continue to buy and therefore couldn't simply buy a first team.
You deserve an IPod touch for that
"We continue in the same way," Pellegrino insisted when asked if the club's position had changed.
“The situation is the same.
“I can't say no more, because the situation is the boy is aside of the team because he don't want to play for us."
Pellegrino was asked whether he believes there is anything more he can do to change van Dijk's mind and replied: “I would like to bring the boy and to persuade him that he's important for us and the club will not sell him.
“We are expecting the best for everyone, even for Virgil, but he doesn't want to be part of the team.
“This is the reason he is aside from them."
“The situation is the same.
“I can't say no more, because the situation is the boy is aside of the team because he don't want to play for us."
Pellegrino was asked whether he believes there is anything more he can do to change van Dijk's mind and replied: “I would like to bring the boy and to persuade him that he's important for us and the club will not sell him.
“We are expecting the best for everyone, even for Virgil, but he doesn't want to be part of the team.
“This is the reason he is aside from them."
Erm. That'd never happen.
“We are expecting the best for everyone, even for Virgil, but he doesn't want to be part of the team. This is the reason he is aside from the team.”
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There is no way now for it not to happen.
Southampton have well and truly boxed themselves in by the way they've handled this and I agree that we should look to turn that to our advantage, but we also need to be a little canny about it in case we pitch our offer so low that it becomes an offer they decide they have to refuse. I'd go in at £40 mill, which is hardly chickenfeed, and be willing to move a little bit from that (though not to £50 mill, which AFAIC they can now whistle for). If they say no, I'd be back in January for half the amount we offer now.
By January he could have been reintegrated and he is on a 6 yr fixed contract.
£45m + add ons for high achievement (winning PL, PL Top 3, CL semis, 150 appearances etc.) seems very reasonable in this market.
I think we need to be careful, if we lowball, Barca may do the same to us with Coutinho.
I'd be happy if we offered £50m plus add ons linked to trophies personally. It'd show Barca we are no pushovers in the process, whereas £40m is around 2/3rds of the price quoted earlier in the window.
He's got 5 years left on his contract they are under no pressure to sale whatsoever. They've been in this situation many times and have always come out winning so i'm not expecting Southampton to sell him this season at all. Plus we can't go in with any offer until Southampton come to us first and say they are willing to sell.
Also depends on what it promised him when signing him from Celtic.
Well he only signed a extension last year with no release clause so he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
That's the narrative from Southampton and it doesn't just add up for me. Why he is her throwing a wobble, then, if it was all rosy?
Because Klopp tapped him up and wants to get a nice bumper pay rise and play in the champions league.
It looks like he already is for quite some time now.
It's just too obvious an explanation-- something is missing. You may be right, of course but as the Torres and Mascherano cases have shown, things are not always what the clubs would have us believe.
I do think if its going to happen, it needs to be soon.
I doubt they will do that.
VVD also has a say in this you know. If we match Chelsea's bid. They can't force him to go to CFC just as he's not able to force a move without their acquiescence. I'm not sure CFC are in the City/United bracket any more as far as salaries or transfer fees are concerned so don't see any advantage there.
In fact if you look at their history over the past couple years they are not splashing out - I think David Luiz was their last major purchase (relative to the market), Morata wasn't expensive for a good striker in this market.
Cahill?
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