In relation to Keita particularly
Virgiling on the vandijkulous
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In relation to Keita particularly
Never heard of Wesley Hoedt but maybe we should offer Lazio 15 million and cut out the south coast middle men. Could save us 20plus million in a year or two.
I know I trust Southampton's scouts a hell of a lot more than I trust ours.
15m in this market, why not both?
What do you mean both? Wesley Hoedt and.......who?
Unless you mean Van Dijk then we probably won't get him anyway. Seriously though if we approached Lazio they would double any asking price straight away so the cheaper option would be to kiss and make up with Sakho but that's less likely than us getting Van Dijk.
I think it is either Coutinho sale or confirmation of qualification for CL. As in we maybe willing to go up to a certain amount. But to go beyond that might need one of the two to happen.
True but it'd be a nice fuck you to Southampton if we stole their replacement too
Yup. I would be very surprised if we sold Coutinho this summer. I would also be very surprised if we got both Keita and VVD this summer.
Or go even further and cheaper and sign the one they will replace Hoedt with when he moves to Anfield next summer!!
Basically:
Southampton: "Now that we've given you the silent treatment for a week are you going to come back and stop sulking?"
VVD: "Fuck off you cunts"
I hate sulkers. Whats wrong With People that are greedy enough to sign a lucrative 6 year deal With Southampton, but not man enough to stand by that? They should let him rot in the reserves.....
If it was our player we'd be livid.
But he's not so I'm all for it.
It think he might have been pissed off big time by what Southampton did with Liverpool as it's also essentially telling the world that they had a traitor talking to another club behind their back.
He may well have acted fine if Southampton had just said 'not for sale. Get on with it.'.
It's a good point. They took Liverpool Football Club to task, but also essentially outed him too for his part in the affair.Given that all teams and players do it, he probably feels singled out and hard done by. You can be sure that even if he remains a Southampton player, the fans won't look too kindly on it so he might as well only receive the stick for two games a season instead of 38.
I agree he was (and probably still is) majorly naffed off with them but I don't think it's because of the "traitor" thing - he was always going to get that anyway if/when he came to us. I reckon it's because Southampton acted as they did not because of wanting to keep him, but in order to try and spark a bidding war regardless of his insistence on joining us - in other words they were looking to cash in on him anyway, so their decision to try and deny him the move he wanted was greedy and hypocritical at his direct expense.
We've tried the tactic of buying players early, like Markovic, it obviously doesn't work out to be cheaper in that case.
Yeah but southampton didn't want him.
Van Dijk Not Back In Training ! But He Wasnt Expected To Be !
Tuesday, 1st Aug 2017 13:32
Liverpool fan websites are making hay whilst The Lying Rag shines claiming that Virgil Van Dijk not training with the Saints squad yesterday was evidence he would be joining Liverpool.
The good thing about Liverpool fan websites is they are very good at straw clutching, they have an ability to take any aspect of something that concerns their club and turn it into a positive.
I am not saying this is a bad thing, certainly having a fan base that is fanatical beyond positivity is a better option than having one where a fai proportion of it is keen to jump on their club's back at every opportunity.
Virgil Van Dijk's absence from the Saints squad to Liverpool fans is conclusive proof the deal is about to happen, but are they right ?
The stark answer is no, the news from Saints has always said that the plan this week was for Mauricio Pellegrino to meet with Van Dijk and talk to him about reintegrating back into the squad and training.
Given that the Saints squad were in France till Saturday evening, that meeting was highly unlikely to take place until Monday afternoon at the earliest after the first training session of the week had taken place.
Saints had never claimed that Van Dijk would return or indeed on what date, only that they would be speaking to the player, reiterating that their position remained unchanged and hoping that he would now be able to accept this and get his mental attitude focused on the coming season.
This being the case then Van Dijk's transfer to Liverpool is no more or no less likely to happen than it has been at anytime over the past three months.
Whether Van Dijk will return to training or whether he will continue to sit and wait to see if Saints capitulate will be a story that will run to 1st September, at the moment his next move if he doesn't return to training is to put in a transfer request, a move that will cost him personally £7 million.
anfieldhq.com who have carried the story that Van Dijk did not return to training yesterday quote their source as a user on SaintsWeb called Tom28 and back up his ITK status by claiming he is the man that first broke the story that Van Dijk had been removed from the squad 2 weeks ago.
anfieldhq and indeed all Liverpool fans would do well to ask themselves why their club has not actually bid for Van Dijk, why they have not put the £60 million the Liverpool Echo is quoting that they are willing to pay on the table and open negotiations with Saints ? rather than the line they have followed in using the media to try and force the player himself to demand the move.
The answer is appallingly that Liverpool know that any direct approach from them now would almost certainly trigger an investigation from the Premier League even if Saints did not make a further complaint.
Liverpool who have already been sanctioned for enticing academy players from other clubs in the Premier League, know that a transfer ban is likely if they make a direct approach to Southampton .
Their only hope is that Van Dijk can pressurise Saints into giving in and putting him up for sale thus Liverpool can then legitimately make an offer unsolicited.
This is quite frankly as I said earlier appalling and whilst I am sure that there are those Liverpool fans who themselves are not happy with the way their club has behaved, the majority on social media, many of whom have been no nearer to Liverpool than a Beatles album, revel in stirring up the situation.
Tuesday, 1st Aug 2017 13:32
Liverpool fan websites are making hay whilst The Lying Rag shines claiming that Virgil Van Dijk not training with the Saints squad yesterday was evidence he would be joining Liverpool.
The good thing about Liverpool fan websites is they are very good at straw clutching, they have an ability to take any aspect of something that concerns their club and turn it into a positive.
I am not saying this is a bad thing, certainly having a fan base that is fanatical beyond positivity is a better option than having one where a fai proportion of it is keen to jump on their club's back at every opportunity.
Virgil Van Dijk's absence from the Saints squad to Liverpool fans is conclusive proof the deal is about to happen, but are they right ?
The stark answer is no, the news from Saints has always said that the plan this week was for Mauricio Pellegrino to meet with Van Dijk and talk to him about reintegrating back into the squad and training.
Given that the Saints squad were in France till Saturday evening, that meeting was highly unlikely to take place until Monday afternoon at the earliest after the first training session of the week had taken place.
Saints had never claimed that Van Dijk would return or indeed on what date, only that they would be speaking to the player, reiterating that their position remained unchanged and hoping that he would now be able to accept this and get his mental attitude focused on the coming season.
This being the case then Van Dijk's transfer to Liverpool is no more or no less likely to happen than it has been at anytime over the past three months.
Whether Van Dijk will return to training or whether he will continue to sit and wait to see if Saints capitulate will be a story that will run to 1st September, at the moment his next move if he doesn't return to training is to put in a transfer request, a move that will cost him personally £7 million.
anfieldhq.com who have carried the story that Van Dijk did not return to training yesterday quote their source as a user on SaintsWeb called Tom28 and back up his ITK status by claiming he is the man that first broke the story that Van Dijk had been removed from the squad 2 weeks ago.
anfieldhq and indeed all Liverpool fans would do well to ask themselves why their club has not actually bid for Van Dijk, why they have not put the £60 million the Liverpool Echo is quoting that they are willing to pay on the table and open negotiations with Saints ? rather than the line they have followed in using the media to try and force the player himself to demand the move.
The answer is appallingly that Liverpool know that any direct approach from them now would almost certainly trigger an investigation from the Premier League even if Saints did not make a further complaint.
Liverpool who have already been sanctioned for enticing academy players from other clubs in the Premier League, know that a transfer ban is likely if they make a direct approach to Southampton .
Their only hope is that Van Dijk can pressurise Saints into giving in and putting him up for sale thus Liverpool can then legitimately make an offer unsolicited.
This is quite frankly as I said earlier appalling and whilst I am sure that there are those Liverpool fans who themselves are not happy with the way their club has behaved, the majority on social media, many of whom have been no nearer to Liverpool than a Beatles album, revel in stirring up the situation.
How would they create a bidding war by removing the one club that was in for him at an astronomical fee?
They hoped that naffing us off would persuade the likes of Chavski and Citeh, both of which had been linked with van Dijk at various times, to enter the auction. And reportedly Chelsea did, but the player turned them down.
He may just be trolling Liverpool fans but this was apparently tweeted and deleted shortly afterwards earlier this afternoon.
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Wasn't it reported that City had dropped out of the race once the price had risen above £50m? And all the stories previous to their reporting us were about how he would turn every other club down anyway. Speculation is that that is what they were cheesed off about.
I don't think they were in a position to force a bidding war, and they were wound up enough about the press leaks to report the only buying club left. Perhaps he wasn't for sale after all, because it doesn't look to me like there was any plan behind reporting us other than telling us to back off.
He registered on a well known saints website to post that too
That was Swiftley deleted too
That was Swiftley deleted too
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So what if X player submits a transfer request? The player loses his bonus or something?
In a world where money is not an issue, does it matter if a player loses a few million and his old club gains a few? The player could just demand what he lost from his new club and then some.
Never understood this.
Or am i missing the plot?
In a world where money is not an issue, does it matter if a player loses a few million and his old club gains a few? The player could just demand what he lost from his new club and then some.
Never understood this.
Or am i missing the plot?
7 million if true is a huge chunk for a player to lose even in these days. Any idea, where it comes from?
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The remainder of his contract. Putting in the request means he forfeits the rights to it.
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