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I almost want to feel sorry for them - but fuck Wenger. They still should finish top 6.
liking our chances for 4th sooo much more now.
Chickens do not equal eggs....It's only game 3 boys and girls....
It is true though it is always good news when opponents are weakened via injuries, God knows it's happened to us enough.
Maybe its my inner pessimist bursting through after such an optimistic spell but it will be very tough to finish above Arsenal or Spurs this season.... Both of them have excellent teams/squads, after last season its easy to ignore Spurs but they arguably have more top class match winners than we do in their first eleven, IMO they beat us easily last season and finished above us. Yeah yeah yeah we had the hodgson effect but they had as bad a spell in the new year as we had had at the start.
They also have added an excellent striker in Adebayor.
Arsenal have lost Nasri and Cesc but they still have a quality team and a well established style of play.
This season it really is a toss up as to who will finish where it is a very competitive top 6.
Its going to be great!
It is true though it is always good news when opponents are weakened via injuries, God knows it's happened to us enough.
Maybe its my inner pessimist bursting through after such an optimistic spell but it will be very tough to finish above Arsenal or Spurs this season.... Both of them have excellent teams/squads, after last season its easy to ignore Spurs but they arguably have more top class match winners than we do in their first eleven, IMO they beat us easily last season and finished above us. Yeah yeah yeah we had the hodgson effect but they had as bad a spell in the new year as we had had at the start.
They also have added an excellent striker in Adebayor.
Arsenal have lost Nasri and Cesc but they still have a quality team and a well established style of play.
This season it really is a toss up as to who will finish where it is a very competitive top 6.
Its going to be great!
we should concentrate on our performances. acheive CL by OUR performances on the pitch, if our rivals fuck up then that is just an added bonus.
He seems to be quite injury prone... shame for Wenger that his two most important players (now) spend half the season out injured and that's if he's lucky.
A snippet on BBC gossip reckons that Yossi was signed without a proper medical. Now that really is desperation.
I doubt Wenger has ever felt as low as he does now in his career.
A snippet on BBC gossip reckons that Yossi was signed without a proper medical. Now that really is desperation.
I doubt Wenger has ever felt as low as he does now in his career.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46767.msg1394937#msg1394937 date=1315300919]
we should concentrate on our performances. acheive CL by OUR performances on the pitch, if our rivals fuck up then that is just an added bonus.
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We can't really concentrate on that, we can only watch and see what's happening. Arse being in a mess really suits our season.
we should concentrate on our performances. acheive CL by OUR performances on the pitch, if our rivals fuck up then that is just an added bonus.
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We can't really concentrate on that, we can only watch and see what's happening. Arse being in a mess really suits our season.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46767.msg1394942#msg1394942 date=1315301627]
I doubt Wenger has ever felt as low as he does now in his career.
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Considering how he sees things so differently on the pitch than reality, perhaps he's do stubborn and/or blind to really know how bad it's getting?
I doubt Wenger has ever felt as low as he does now in his career.
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Considering how he sees things so differently on the pitch than reality, perhaps he's do stubborn and/or blind to really know how bad it's getting?
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=46767.msg1394931#msg1394931 date=1315300183]
Chickens do not equal eggs....It's only game 3 boys and girls....
It is true though it is always good news when opponents are weakened via injuries, God knows it's happened to us enough.
Maybe its my inner pessimist bursting through after such an optimistic spell but it will be very tough to finish above Arsenal or Spurs this season.... Both of them have excellent teams/squads, after last season its easy to ignore Spurs but they arguably have more top class match winners than we do in their first eleven, IMO they beat us easily last season and finished above us. Yeah yeah yeah we had the hodgson effect but they had as bad a spell in the new year as we had had at the start.
They also have added an excellent striker in Adebayor.
Arsenal have lost Nasri and Cesc but they still have a quality team and a well established style of play.
This season it really is a toss up as to who will finish where it is a very competitive top 6.
Its going to be great!
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It is early days, but Arsenal with 1 point out of 9 to start with and us having 6 points on them is good. Plus Spurs have no points after a couple of games too.
Arsenal's well established style of play has been absent in the opening games and their quality team has been decimated by transfers and injuries. I would be pissed off if we don't finish above them given the above.
A couple more losses or draws in the coming 6 weeks and the pressure will tell, just like it did with us last year. This Arsenal side have not responded to pressure well in the recent past.
Wenger could be gone by Xmas if their league form does not pick up.
Chickens do not equal eggs....It's only game 3 boys and girls....
It is true though it is always good news when opponents are weakened via injuries, God knows it's happened to us enough.
Maybe its my inner pessimist bursting through after such an optimistic spell but it will be very tough to finish above Arsenal or Spurs this season.... Both of them have excellent teams/squads, after last season its easy to ignore Spurs but they arguably have more top class match winners than we do in their first eleven, IMO they beat us easily last season and finished above us. Yeah yeah yeah we had the hodgson effect but they had as bad a spell in the new year as we had had at the start.
They also have added an excellent striker in Adebayor.
Arsenal have lost Nasri and Cesc but they still have a quality team and a well established style of play.
This season it really is a toss up as to who will finish where it is a very competitive top 6.
Its going to be great!
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It is early days, but Arsenal with 1 point out of 9 to start with and us having 6 points on them is good. Plus Spurs have no points after a couple of games too.
Arsenal's well established style of play has been absent in the opening games and their quality team has been decimated by transfers and injuries. I would be pissed off if we don't finish above them given the above.
A couple more losses or draws in the coming 6 weeks and the pressure will tell, just like it did with us last year. This Arsenal side have not responded to pressure well in the recent past.
Wenger could be gone by Xmas if their league form does not pick up.
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I know it's only Swansea but they're missing Vermaelen, Song, Gervinho, Wilshere and Jenkinson on Saturday. Frimpong is back - wouldn't be surprised to see that headcase get sent off again.
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I quite fancy Swansea to get a result to be honest.
I know it's only Swansea but they're missing Vermaelen, Song, Gervinho, Wilshere and Jenkinson on Saturday. Frimpong is back - wouldn't be surprised to see that headcase get sent off again.
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I quite fancy Swansea to get a result to be honest.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=46767.msg1394991#msg1394991 date=1315309112]
I know it's only Swansea but they're missing Vermaelen, Song, Gervinho, Wilshere and Jenkinson on Saturday. Frimpong is back - wouldn't be surprised to see that headcase get sent off again.
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Szceszny
Sagna
Mertesacker
Koscielny]
Santos
Ramsey
Arteta
Benayoun
Walcott
Van Persie
Arshavin
Would think still enough to beat Swansea.
I know it's only Swansea but they're missing Vermaelen, Song, Gervinho, Wilshere and Jenkinson on Saturday. Frimpong is back - wouldn't be surprised to see that headcase get sent off again.
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Szceszny
Sagna
Mertesacker
Koscielny]
Santos
Ramsey
Arteta
Benayoun
Walcott
Van Persie
Arshavin
Would think still enough to beat Swansea.
Yeah you'd think so - but since deadline day everyone has been away at Internationals. Would be nice to think there was zero understanding going on and the players that have come back from injury are off form, etc.
I know Arse are favourites to win the match. I mean it's realistically a wenker-out scenario if they don't.
I know Arse are favourites to win the match. I mean it's realistically a wenker-out scenario if they don't.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=46767.msg1394999#msg1394999 date=1315309876]
Yeah you'd think so - but since deadline day everyone has been away at Internationals. Would be nice to think there was zero understanding going on and the players that have come back from injury are off form, etc.
I know Arse are favourites to win the match. I mean it's realistically a wenker-out scenario if they don't.
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Yup the fact that 4 of them are new with no training would definitely play a part. They should beat Swansea but I won't be surprised if Swansea got something out of the game. Here's hoping.
Yeah you'd think so - but since deadline day everyone has been away at Internationals. Would be nice to think there was zero understanding going on and the players that have come back from injury are off form, etc.
I know Arse are favourites to win the match. I mean it's realistically a wenker-out scenario if they don't.
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Yup the fact that 4 of them are new with no training would definitely play a part. They should beat Swansea but I won't be surprised if Swansea got something out of the game. Here's hoping.
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...and Spurs are away to Wolves this weekend. They could find themselves still rooted to the bottom of the table with no points from 3 games come sunday.
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That would make me laugh and would mean that Dear 'arry would have taken them full circle.
...and Spurs are away to Wolves this weekend. They could find themselves still rooted to the bottom of the table with no points from 3 games come sunday.
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That would make me laugh and would mean that Dear 'arry would have taken them full circle.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=46767.msg1394999#msg1394999 date=1315309876]
Yeah you'd think so - but since deadline day everyone has been away at Internationals. Would be nice to think there was zero understanding going on and the players that have come back from injury are off form, etc.
I know Arse are favourites to win the match. I mean it's realistically a wenker-out scenario if they don't.
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I don't think Arsehole Whinger is necessarily out of the woods even if they do win. There have been reports that he came under some pressure from the board to spend this summer and, though it's always hard to know how much credence to give such things, in this case I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. Now that he's gone yet another window without buying established quality he doesn't just need to get by, he needs to do well, and at the moment it's hard to see that team doing so.
Yeah you'd think so - but since deadline day everyone has been away at Internationals. Would be nice to think there was zero understanding going on and the players that have come back from injury are off form, etc.
I know Arse are favourites to win the match. I mean it's realistically a wenker-out scenario if they don't.
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I don't think Arsehole Whinger is necessarily out of the woods even if they do win. There have been reports that he came under some pressure from the board to spend this summer and, though it's always hard to know how much credence to give such things, in this case I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. Now that he's gone yet another window without buying established quality he doesn't just need to get by, he needs to do well, and at the moment it's hard to see that team doing so.
I don't believe that Wenger has steadfastly refused to spend despite watching his two best players get sold this summer.
City alone have given Arsenal about 80M over the last couple of years. Where has that gone? Into a pot just waiting for the manager to spend it? No chance.
City alone have given Arsenal about 80M over the last couple of years. Where has that gone? Into a pot just waiting for the manager to spend it? No chance.
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[quote author=Krump link=topic=46767.msg1394999#msg1394999 date=1315309876]
Yeah you'd think so - but since deadline day everyone has been away at Internationals. Would be nice to think there was zero understanding going on and the players that have come back from injury are off form, etc.
I know Arse are favourites to win the match. I mean it's realistically a wenker-out scenario if they don't.
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I don't think Arsehole Whinger is necessarily out of the woods even if they do win. There have been reports that he came under some pressure from the board to spend this summer and, though it's always hard to know how much credence to give such things, in this case I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. Now that he's gone yet another window without buying established quality he doesn't just need to get by, he needs to do well, and at the moment it's hard to see that team doing so.
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I cant believe that story as it has been presented. The board wanted him to spend but he refused, wtf? I'd rather think there was some disagreement about how to spend, if anything at all. Also the biggest problem for Arsenal isnt Wenger, who I think is the 2nd best manager in the league, but the fact that they are broke.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=46767.msg1394999#msg1394999 date=1315309876]
Yeah you'd think so - but since deadline day everyone has been away at Internationals. Would be nice to think there was zero understanding going on and the players that have come back from injury are off form, etc.
I know Arse are favourites to win the match. I mean it's realistically a wenker-out scenario if they don't.
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I don't think Arsehole Whinger is necessarily out of the woods even if they do win. There have been reports that he came under some pressure from the board to spend this summer and, though it's always hard to know how much credence to give such things, in this case I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. Now that he's gone yet another window without buying established quality he doesn't just need to get by, he needs to do well, and at the moment it's hard to see that team doing so.
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I cant believe that story as it has been presented. The board wanted him to spend but he refused, wtf? I'd rather think there was some disagreement about how to spend, if anything at all. Also the biggest problem for Arsenal isnt Wenger, who I think is the 2nd best manager in the league, but the fact that they are broke.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46767.msg1395009#msg1395009 date=1315311127]
I'd love to see Spurs crash and burn this season though.
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Yep, jumped up fucking twats.
I'd love to see Spurs crash and burn this season though.
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Yep, jumped up fucking twats.
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=46767.msg1395007#msg1395007 date=1315310931]
[quote author=Krump link=topic=46767.msg1394999#msg1394999 date=1315309876]
Yeah you'd think so - but since deadline day everyone has been away at Internationals. Would be nice to think there was zero understanding going on and the players that have come back from injury are off form, etc.
I know Arse are favourites to win the match. I mean it's realistically a wenker-out scenario if they don't.
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I don't think Arsehole Whinger is necessarily out of the woods even if they do win. There have been reports that he came under some pressure from the board to spend this summer and, though it's always hard to know how much credence to give such things, in this case I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. Now that he's gone yet another window without buying established quality he doesn't just need to get by, he needs to do well, and at the moment it's hard to see that team doing so.
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I cant believe that story as it has been presented. The board wanted him to spend but he refused, wtf? I'd rather think there was some disagreement about how to spend, if anything at all. Also the biggest problem for Arsenal isnt Wenger, who I think is the 2nd best manager in the league, but the fact that they are broke.
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Comes to the same thing in the end if they want him to buy established, experienced players to give the Arse's chances an immediate boost, and he says no.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=46767.msg1395007#msg1395007 date=1315310931]
[quote author=Krump link=topic=46767.msg1394999#msg1394999 date=1315309876]
Yeah you'd think so - but since deadline day everyone has been away at Internationals. Would be nice to think there was zero understanding going on and the players that have come back from injury are off form, etc.
I know Arse are favourites to win the match. I mean it's realistically a wenker-out scenario if they don't.
[/quote]
I don't think Arsehole Whinger is necessarily out of the woods even if they do win. There have been reports that he came under some pressure from the board to spend this summer and, though it's always hard to know how much credence to give such things, in this case I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. Now that he's gone yet another window without buying established quality he doesn't just need to get by, he needs to do well, and at the moment it's hard to see that team doing so.
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I cant believe that story as it has been presented. The board wanted him to spend but he refused, wtf? I'd rather think there was some disagreement about how to spend, if anything at all. Also the biggest problem for Arsenal isnt Wenger, who I think is the 2nd best manager in the league, but the fact that they are broke.
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Comes to the same thing in the end if they want him to buy established, experienced players to give the Arse's chances an immediate boost, and he says no.
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[quote author=Dylan link=topic=46767.msg1395109#msg1395109 date=1315331009]
Phew, i was *this* close to subbing him into my fantasy footy team at the weekend.
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Amateur, everyone knows you wait til Friday for that.
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That's where i've been going wrong.
[quote author=Dylan link=topic=46767.msg1395109#msg1395109 date=1315331009]
Phew, i was *this* close to subbing him into my fantasy footy team at the weekend.
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Amateur, everyone knows you wait til Friday for that.
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That's where i've been going wrong.
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