[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=46360.msg1380902#msg1380902 date=1313501264]
It does indeed. However, when I have several families of this ilk in my neighbourhood, who do terrorise the place until someone stands up to them. I did it, they got fucked off out of the area.
Do I care? Yes, I care that my wife can walk outside the front door and not be called "cunt" by some sewer rat of kid who's parents have brought him to be like a chip off the old block. I care that my wife doesn't get told she'll get stabbed one night when she's not looking. I care that mine and my wife's cars are not vandalised for daring to ask them to behave in a civilised manner. I care that I don't have sewer rats trying to kick my front door in as a message when my wife and kids are in bed.
So yes, it does become someone else's problem. I respect the job you do and I imagine that the successes are amazing and leaving you feeling fulfilled. BUT, not every case can solved this way. Some people just don't care and don't want to be helped. These are the people who make our society nasty to live in and drag it down for the rest of us. Do I care about what happens to them? Do I care if society "forgets" them and doesn't help them? No I don't because I am content in the knowledge that these people just want to take, take and then take some more. Fuck them! Fuck them in the ear! Fuck them in the other ear!
But if they start making my life a misery, which several were, then I will follow the process to ensure that the pain is brought back to them - if they end up in a caravan, its their fucking fault for not giving a fuck in the first place. I can sleep in my bed contented knowing that I didn't get them evicted, they evicted themselves on account of not wanting to conform to a values system that is deemed acceptable to most decent people.
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It's not about the job I do Spion, or anything like that.
I totally understand the point you and other have made with regards to this, in the area where I currently work police are looking at putting pressure on the council to re-house one of the families whose 2 boys continually cause trouble (I meet the 6 year old boy the other day and can see him pissing people off in about 5 years time, sad as that might be). I can dig this no problem, I understand the influence these guys have on others and the problems they cause and toally understand the benefit of them being kicked out of the estate.
My comment was about creating areas where all the 'bad' people are kinda dumped in a shanty town like area. There would be no (or very little) hope for those kids who grow up in the area then at all.
"These are the people who make our society nasty to live in and drag it down for the rest of us" but short of killing each person or sending them off to Australia we have to deal with them as far as I see it.
If they take take take, then they will continue to do so. Stuff like this will then become the norm and we really don't need to get dragged into this every year.
It's not about 'hug a hoodie' or some other such shite tagline, this is about getting people to understand they are responsible for their own actions if that means punishment as a form of deterrant then so be it for those involved..but Imo it should also be about using that as an opportunity to allow people to rehibilitate and reflect.
