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Torres gone. Scum gone to more scum

Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Binny link=topic=43861.msg1267763#msg1267763 date=1296276819]
Dated 14 August 2009
That's 2+1 yr. Not sure about the validity of the so called clause inserted earlier this summer though.
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so june 2013, fucking twat making all the right noises to the fans only to turn round and try to leave when a bid comes in

i wish we were in the financial position to hold on to him until 2013

still part of me hopes this is balls, but its not is it :-\
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

I think The Time's Tony Barret kind of sum it up in his tweet:

"The legacy of Hicks, Gillett and Purslow is Liverpool's burden. The seeds of Torres's disaffection were sewn by that trio."

"Not excusing Torres in any way. I'm as disappointed by him as anyone."

"Feel really sorry for Suarez. This should be his night but his arrival has been totally overshadowed."
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Binny link=topic=43861.msg1267768#msg1267768 date=1296277507]
I think The Time's Tony Barret kind of sum it up in his tweet:

"The legacy of Hicks, Gillett and Purslow is Liverpool's burden. The seeds of Torres's disaffection were sewn by that trio."

"Not excusing Torres in any way. I'm as disappointed by him as anyone."

"Feel really sorry for Suarez. This should be his night but his arrival has been totally overshadowed."

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yup its all true

hopefully suarez still signs.....
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

"I'm staying at the Pool" he said, Torres, Torres
"I want to join the Chavs instead", Torres, Torres
You Judas cunt, you lying prick
Fucks like you make me feel sick
Fernando Torres, fuck you and your kind
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=singlerider link=topic=43861.msg1267771#msg1267771 date=1296280838]
"I'm staying at the Pool" he said, Torres, Torres
"I want to join the Chavs instead", Torres, Torres
You Judas cunt, you lying prick
Fucks like you make me feel sick
Fernando Torres, fuck you and your kind
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Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Well.. i was one of the few that was keen to sell him at the start of the season..

I dont think we can even possibly consider selling him now with only a few days of the transfer window left. His agent and manager are fucking idiots if they think this was a good time to ask for a transfer. He will simply have to do his best to try and win over the fans as he wont be going anywhere until the summer.

If he thinks the fans will simply accept him back then he hasnt got a clue what playing for Liverpool is really about..

It's such a strange situation and its something that i never expected from Torres- i always considered him to be quite an intelligent bloke with a sense of respect and loyalty.

i wouldnt believe any of this if it wasnt for The official website releasing a statement. I am unsure as to why they would even do that. It wont calm the media down - it will simply allow them to manifest more lies that will unsettle other players.

We should try and get the most out of Chelsea in this instance if Torres' situation is viewed as untenable by the club. I doubt having him sulking around waiting to leave will boost confidence and it will simply turn the fans against the team again.

Alex, Anelka and a couple of youngsters with huge potential and 40 million should be around the minimum we should accept. Fucking wanker tap up cunts.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Torres has put next to no effort in all season apart from against Chelsea & the last 2 or 3 games when, effectively, in the shop window. He was no great shakes last season either.

Torres, or his agent, or both, have already spoken with Chelsea. I would imagine that he / they have been party to the timing of this bid, and weren't perturbed by how that would affect LFC.

Torres has decided he doesn't want to play for us anymore and is prepared to leave in acrimonious circumstances, hence his down the tunnel run against Fulham. He just wants out NOW and will not face the fans that have idolised him.

Torres has always clearly enjoyed the rivalry with Chelsea and has always fought his corner well. There was seemingly a mutual hatred which our fans loved. What price a complete U-turn? 200K a week.

Torres has continued to make the right noises to LFC in public when, realistically, he must have been engineering his Chelsea move at the same time.

Torres' reason for leaving is "promises not kept last summer". However, he leaves with the club clearly on the up, with new owners in place, Kenny in charge and a new 23M strike partner on the way, rendering his excuse invalid.

Kenny was clearly oblivious to all this.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

* This was supposed to Suarez big day. Feel sorry for him.

* Personally I knew that Torres was going to leave Liverpool in the near future, question was when.

* I still hope Torres is forced to stay, so that weasel can face the Anfield crowd.

* If Chelsea can come up with £42.5 M plus Sturridge they can do £50 M.

* Don't want Anelka or Sturridge, I want one of the following: Llorente, Carroll, Lavezzi, Pato or Benzema. Basically a striker that can play alone up front.

* But is there really time to replace him? If not, then it's down to Kuyt, Ngog and Suarez.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

What do you guys reckon the reaction Torres gets vs. Stoke at Anfield from the fans would be like? 'Positive' so as to persuade him to stay or giving him the stick for putting in the request?
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=43861.msg1267775#msg1267775 date=1296283421]
Torres has put next to no effort in all season apart from against Chelsea & the last 2 or 3 games when, effectively, in the shop window. He was no great shakes last season either.

Torres, or his agent, or both, have already spoken with Chelsea. I would imagine that he / they have been party to the timing of this bid, and weren't perturbed by how that would affect LFC.

Torres has decided he doesn't want to play for us anymore and is prepared to leave in acrimonious circumstances, hence his down the tunnel run against Fulham. He just wants out NOW and will not face the fans that have idolised him.

Torres has always clearly enjoyed the rivalry with Chelsea and has always fought his corner well. There was seemingly a mutual hatred which our fans loved. What price a complete U-turn? 200K a week.

Torres has continued to make the right noises to LFC in public when, realistically, he must have been engineering his Chelsea move at the same time.

Torres' reason for leaving is "promises not kept last summer". However, he leaves with the club clearly on the up, with new owners in place, Kenny in charge and a new 23M strike partner on the way, rendering his excuse invalid.

Kenny was clearly oblivious to all this.


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Id like to see Quotes from the man himself before giving him too much shit.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Binny link=topic=43861.msg1267777#msg1267777 date=1296283553]
What do you guys reckon the reaction Torres gets vs. Stoke at Anfield from the fans would be like? 'Positive' so as to persuade him to stay or giving him the stick for putting in the request?
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I'll illustrate it for you.

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I just want him to realize how many people he has hurt.
There is no repair. Like McManaman, despite "running his legs off" the last few games he played.
I want Torres to help us secure a nice position in the league, help us win the Europa League and then fuck off.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Torres is fucked if he stays. Its a difficult position for Kenny and the Owners as him staying could be really damaging for the squad morale, which has only just started to improve.

Without hearing anything from the man himself- im reluctant to suggest that this has all been a ploy... but in terms of timing.. Its possibly the best time ever for Torres to ask for a transfer. We are in a lose, lose situation where keeping him could be more damaging in the long term.. losing him would also obviously be damaging to the squad morale.

Worst time ever for Liverpool considering the transfer deadline and the hole we still find ourselves in. This timing certainly effects our ability to negotiate.. Is an unhappy player worth keeping when he is such an instrumental figure in the squad??

Using my heart - i want us to take Chelsea to the cleaners and if they arnt willing to pay the daft sums we ask then we let Torres rot in the reserves.
Using my head - get a decent fee - quickly move in for other players and get rid of another negative cancer from the squad.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Right.

Firstly the deal. If I hear one more report about 28M, 30M, 35M, 30M + Daniel fucking Sturridge I may scream. Double it and we'll be in the fucking vicinity of the ballpark. I'm not joking either. If Kaka who plays one good game in every 40 can go for over 50M, and Real are prepared to pay 70M plus for Ronaldo, why are we even entertaining joke 30M bids for the "best striker in the world"?

'Yah, but he wants to go, we have no bargaining power' - Ronaldo wanted out of Old Trafford for 3 years running. Did you see Gill or Ferguson taking that into consideration when Madrid came calling? This is your first test FSG. Your most valuable asset wants out - whatcha gonna do?

I'd sell him. Fuck it, let him go. This is the true measure of the man; baulking when it gets difficult. By fuck it's been difficult the last two years, but have we seen anyone else desperate to jump ship like this? That's right, we have. Mascherano. Another mercenary cunt. Where's he now? Sitting on the bench. Every. Single. Week.

I don't doubt Torres will play every week at Chelsea. I hope he does. Stick your badge-kissing up your fucking arse. You'll fit right in there with that attitude. And while I'm at it - I've fucked loathed watching you for the last 2 years. Fucking loathed watching us desperatly try to keep you, excuse your fucking grumpy, moany, lazy arse as you amble around telling yourself that you're too good for all this shit, and loathed listening to the supporters sing your name as you sulked your way through another 90 minutes.

To be honest, the joke's on us. You walked out on one club you loved before, you were always going to walk out on us if it didn't go to plan. Your attitude at the World Cup as your teammates and country won the greatest prize of all said everything; the spotlight wasn't on you and you couldn't stand it.

Well now the spotlight is on you Fernando, and what have you go to show for it? No trophies, no respect, no admiration, and no love. Unless of course you classify that fucking garish faux club you're desperate to get to as loving. Well you belong to them Fernando it seems - zero history worth talking about, zero respect, zero support, but full of pretence, desperation, and cunts. Your their poster boy, I hope you revel in it.

Because just over 5 years ago another mercenary walked out on us to "win things" at a glamour club. 12 months on, and the ragtag team he'd left behind were the kings of Europe led by a manger we got behind. Where has Michael Owen ended up Fernando? At the biggest club going without a modicum of respect, or a trophy to say he's earned. By Jesus it'd be fitting to watch the same ignominy befall you.

Finally, for the love of God don't hanker for him to stay. Don't implore him to hang around based on false promises. Let the fucker go, and let him fucking rot to boot. We;re Liverpool Football Club for fucks sake. The sum greater than the parts. Since when did we beg some mercenary piece to take pity on us, and to hang around promising it'll get better? It doesn't get better than playing in front of us Fernando.

You've given it all up. The support, love from the fans, and most importantly ours and everyone else's respect. If some shiny medals at Chelsea Football Club alongside John Terry compensate for that, then you didn't deserve our respect in the first place.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=43861.msg1267727#msg1267727 date=1296268342]
Ok, it's been hours now. I've tried to pretend that I'm not upset by this but I am. I'm very annoyed and although it sounds preposterous I'm feeling more than a bit betrayed, right at the very moment when we feel like we're turning the corner.

I'd love us to stick the cunt in the reserves for the next 3 years but I know we should cash in. However, I really think we're not doing ourselves dealing with a rival for the CL in future years. if Chelsea come 4th next year and we're 5th, how much will this sale have actually cost us?
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Yes.This.We need to wait for the summer and sell him overseas.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

That's a nice post Ryan. I still feel incredibly bad about this... worse than when Owen left.

I'm also pissed off that this is being carried out in Jan and if we do sell him, you have to think that we're not going to get the money we deserve for him.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=43861.msg1267786#msg1267786 date=1296286504]
Right.

Firstly the deal. If I hear one more report about 28M, 30M, 35M, 30M + Daniel fucking Sturridge I may scream. Double it and we'll be in the fucking vicinity of the ballpark. I'm not joking either. If Kaka who plays one good game in every 40 can go for over 50M, and Real are prepared to pay 70M plus for Ronaldo, why are we even entertaining joke 30M bids for the "best striker in the world"?

'Yah, but he wants to go, we have no bargaining power' - Ronaldo wanted out of Old Trafford for 3 years running. Did you see Gill or Ferguson taking that into consideration when Madrid came calling? This is your first test FSG. Your most valuable asset wants out - whatcha gonna do?

I'd sell him. Fuck it, let him go. This is the true measure of the man; baulking when it gets difficult. By fuck it's been difficult the last two years, but have we seen anyone else desperate to jump ship like this? That's right, we have. Mascherano. Another mercenary cunt. Where's he now? Sitting on the bench. Every. Single. Week.

I don't doubt Torres will play every week at Chelsea. I hope he does. Stick your badge-kissing up your fucking arse. You'll fit right in there with that attitude. And while I'm at it - I've fucked loathed watching you for the last 2 years. Fucking loathed watching us desperatly try to keep you, excuse your fucking grumpy, moany, lazy arse as you amble around telling yourself that you're too good for all this shit, and loathed listening to the supporters sing your name as you sulked your way through another 90 minutes.

To be honest, the joke's on us. You walked out on one club you loved before, you were always going to walk out on us if it didn't go to plan. Your attitude at the World Cup as your teammates and country won the greatest prize of all said everything; the spotlight wasn't on you and you couldn't stand it.

Well now the spotlight is on you Fernando, and what have you go to show for it? No trophies, no respect, no admiration, and no love. Unless of course you classify that fucking garish faux club you're desperate to get to as loving. Well you belong to them Fernando it seems - zero history worth talking about, zero respect, zero support, but full of pretence, desperation, and cunts. Your their poster boy, I hope you revel in it.

Because just over 5 years ago another mercenary walked out on us to "win things" at a glamour club. 12 months on, and the ragtag team he'd left behind were the kings of Europe led by a manger we got behind. Where has Michael Owen ended up Fernando? At the biggest club going without a modicum of respect, or a trophy to say he's earned. By Jesus it'd be fitting to watch the same ignominy befall you.

Finally, for the love of God don't hanker for him to stay. Don't implore him to hang around based on false promises. Let the fucker go, and let him fucking rot to boot. We;re Liverpool Football Club for fucks sake. The sum greater than the parts. Since when did we beg some mercenary piece to take pity on us, and to hang around promising it'll get better? It doesn't get better than playing in front of us Fernando.

You've given it all up. The support, love from the fans, and most importantly ours and everyone else's respect. If some shiny medals at Chelsea Football Club alongside John Terry compensate for that, then you didn't deserve our respect in the first place.
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Great post Ryan.
Doesn't the timing also anger you? I mean two days before the transfer window closes. It'll be impossible to replace him now.
And btw, who do you think is good enough to fill his shoes. Don't say Anelka.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

So it wasnt a dream then, all i feel now is fucking disgust in this man.

Nice post Ryan sums it up pretty well.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Lukaku and Benzema are two I can think of who'd I want as replacements.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=dmishra link=topic=43861.msg1267791#msg1267791 date=1296287036]
Lukaku and Benzema are two I can think of who'd I want as replacements.
[/quote] Lukaku is too young to burden that responsibility don't you think.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=43861.msg1267786#msg1267786 date=1296286504]
Right.

Firstly the deal. If I hear one more report about 28M, 30M, 35M, 30M + Daniel fucking Sturridge I may scream. Double it and we'll be in the fucking vicinity of the ballpark. I'm not joking either. If Kaka who plays one good game in every 40 can go for over 50M, and Real are prepared to pay 70M plus for Ronaldo, why are we even entertaining joke 30M bids for the "best striker in the world"?

'Yah, but he wants to go, we have no bargaining power' - Ronaldo wanted out of Old Trafford for 3 years running. Did you see Gill or Ferguson taking that into consideration when Madrid came calling? This is your first test FSG. Your most valuable asset wants out - whatcha gonna do?

I'd sell him. Fuck it, let him go. This is the true measure of the man; baulking when it gets difficult. By fuck it's been difficult the last two years, but have we seen anyone else desperate to jump ship like this? That's right, we have. Mascherano. Another mercenary cunt. Where's he now? Sitting on the bench. Every. Single. Week.

I don't doubt Torres will play every week at Chelsea. I hope he does. Stick your badge-kissing up your fucking arse. You'll fit right in there with that attitude. And while I'm at it - I've fucked loathed watching you for the last 2 years. Fucking loathed watching us desperatly try to keep you, excuse your fucking grumpy, moany, lazy arse as you amble around telling yourself that you're too good for all this shit, and loathed listening to the supporters sing your name as you sulked your way through another 90 minutes.

To be honest, the joke's on us. You walked out on one club you loved before, you were always going to walk out on us if it didn't go to plan. Your attitude at the World Cup as your teammates and country won the greatest prize of all said everything; the spotlight wasn't on you and you couldn't stand it.

Well now the spotlight is on you Fernando, and what have you go to show for it? No trophies, no respect, no admiration, and no love. Unless of course you classify that fucking garish faux club you're desperate to get to as loving. Well you belong to them Fernando it seems - zero history worth talking about, zero respect, zero support, but full of pretence, desperation, and cunts. Your their poster boy, I hope you revel in it.

Because just over 5 years ago another mercenary walked out on us to "win things" at a glamour club. 12 months on, and the ragtag team he'd left behind were the kings of Europe led by a manger we got behind. Where has Michael Owen ended up Fernando? At the biggest club going without a modicum of respect, or a trophy to say he's earned. By Jesus it'd be fitting to watch the same ignominy befall you.

Finally, for the love of God don't hanker for him to stay. Don't implore him to hang around based on false promises. Let the fucker go, and let him fucking rot to boot. We;re Liverpool Football Club for fucks sake. The sum greater than the parts. Since when did we beg some mercenary piece to take pity on us, and to hang around promising it'll get better? It doesn't get better than playing in front of us Fernando.

You've given it all up. The support, love from the fans, and most importantly ours and everyone else's respect. If some shiny medals at Chelsea Football Club alongside John Terry compensate for that, then you didn't deserve our respect in the first place.
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Brilliant post. Exactly how I feel.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Good morning everyone. Can someone please give me a short referate on what's come up since last evening as I have no stomach to read all these pages.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=43861.msg1267786#msg1267786 date=1296286504]

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Great post, Ryan. If only the timing wasn't so fucking bad for this shit.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Modo link=topic=43861.msg1267792#msg1267792 date=1296287113]
Lukaku is too young to burden that responsibility don't you think.
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He may be young but he's physically more than ready for the PL and he's been shitting goals. Don't think he'd have too much of a problem adjusting to the PL. And dont't forget that we have Suarez too. Lukaku and Suarez would potentially be a very excting partnership.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=43861.msg1267794#msg1267794 date=1296287222]
Good morning everyone. Can someone please give me a short referate on what's come up since last evening as I have no stomach to read all these pages.
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Torres has put in a written transfer request.
The club have rejected it (see the official statement on the Offal).
The primary 'insider' poster we have on this site last night spoke of 'corruption' in this attempt at a deal but went off to drink without saying any more (not that I have seen).
You'll struggle to find any sympaathy for Mr Torres on this site.
We are all awaiting the next move in the saga - will our new owners show our club is not going to be messed with, or will they conclude that financial pragmatism means we'll force the highest price we can and let him leave?
 
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[quote author=Tal link=topic=43861.msg1267798#msg1267798 date=1296287516]

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Thanks. Mark Mc's posts were the last I saw before going to bed hoping to see some good news in the morning.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Modo link=topic=43861.msg1267789#msg1267789 date=1296286883]
Great post Ryan.
Doesn't the timing also anger you? I mean two days before the transfer window closes. It'll be impossible to replace him now.
And btw, who do you think is good enough to fill his shoes. Don't say Anelka.
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Yeah, good writing by Ryan. I think it is no issue to sell Torres now without adequate replacement because realistically we are to avoid relegation this season and we can do so without Torres. What else can we play for? Europa League... we too can do without him as we have Suarez. 4th place? I think it is beyond us even with him or a better replacement around to play with Suarez.
 
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[quote author=RedKev link=topic=43861.msg1267743#msg1267743 date=1296270661]
Jesus, with fans like you lot I've no idea why he would want to leave.
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Fucking behave yourself Kev. The lad's been adored and idolised by Liverpool fans. We've put up with his obvious sulking over the last two years because of that love and also for the fact we all thought Torres understood us. He got the club. Some fact that turned out to be. What really transpires is he's just another mercernary cunt like the majority of them these days. The ONLY thing Torres seemed to be complaining about is the club showing some ambition to match his own. On the day, THE VERY DAY, we do this by making a record signing he decides to act the cunt. He simply could not have timed this any worse if he tried. He couldn't give Liverpool fans a bigger kick in the bollocks, the lying Judas twat.

"I'm a professional and will honour my contract". Fuck off. Liar.

He's been tapped up by Chelsea - that much is obvious - because all this is far too orchestrated. He's been badly advised and he's fell for it all hook line and sinker. Kerching eh Fernando ? And I'll tell you something else - the lad is behaving like a complete TWAT as well - something I'm not prepared to discuss just yet. He can fuck off now anyway, I'm done with the story telling cunt. As I say, he's been idolised at Anfield and money can't buy that. If he wants to become another soulless money grabbing whore cunt who wants to play for a plastic lottery winning chav cunt of a side then he's welcome to it. In fact, I say they deserve each other because their both obvious soulless cunts where neither player nor fan really gives a fuck. They can both act like spoilt little rich kids. So fuck off with your "With fans like you" bollocks. Support is earnt and he had it all but by selling his soul at the worst fucking moment possible he's sullied all nof that. He's a cunt and can fuck off and if Chelsea think they're getting him on the cheap they're wrong. You can fuck right off Roman you horrible grinning cunt. £50m is the bare minimum I'd take. And Sturridge can fuck off too - Ryans spot on with him. Don't want the little cock jocky anywhere near our club.

It's a crying shame it's come to this but the crux of it is this for me. You wanted ambition Torres and the minute you got given it you shit on us all. Now fuck off and don't let the door slam you on the arse on the way it does. In fact, no, let it. Knowing you you'll probably go down like a bag of shite and be out for 6 months. Cunt.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Didn't this bastard say in his autobiography he would never play for another English club?
 
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