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Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

^ agree with all of that except the 35m pounds part. We sold fucking Xabi Alonso for 35m pounds, 45m + Sturridge or 50m+ pounds should be the minimum here.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

How is selling Keegan to Hamburg remotely the same as selling Torres to fucking Chelsea?
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Binny link=topic=43861.msg1267704#msg1267704 date=1296266111]

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Where's this from, Binny?
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=43861.msg1267722#msg1267722 date=1296267722]
How is selling Keegan to Hamburg remotely the same as selling Torres to fucking Chelsea?
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Well, the main gist was about losing (one of) your best players rather than who you lose him to. If there's indeed a clause in his contract, there's not much we can do to stop him moving to a domestic rival either.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Ok, it's been hours now. I've tried to pretend that I'm not upset by this but I am. I'm very annoyed and although it sounds preposterous I'm feeling more than a bit betrayed, right at the very moment when we feel like we're turning the corner.

I'd love us to stick the cunt in the reserves for the next 3 years but I know we should cash in. However, I really think we're not doing ourselves dealing with a rival for the CL in future years. if Chelsea come 4th next year and we're 5th, how much will this sale have actually cost us?
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

You've been right with your Torres stance all season Neets, he's been a wanker. Puts some effort in for a game and a half and everyone forgives and forgets.
50M+ straight cash should do it. No Sturridge thanks.
It was obvious he was going to go, he's wanted out for at least 18 months, the body language was unambiguous to say the least. To do it now, at the end of this window, and to do it to go to Chelsea, is unforgivable. If that's what transpires, wipe the fucker from the annals of LFC history. It's disrepectful to Kenny, big time.
Good start to his LFC career, patchy final 3rd for me. Won nothing. Is below Owen and Fowler (well below) in the recent history stakes.

Reina will be next.

All mercenaries, the fucking lot of them.

And if he turns round and signs a new contract, a la Rooney, don't expect the same level of headless chicken devotion that that bellend gets from the Mancs. He's still be a grade-A shitbox.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Is he insured? If so I hope he gets hit by a car in the morning. The cunt.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

The striker informed boss Kenny Dalglish he wants to move and sources in Spain suggest he is considering making a statement requesting a transfer and explaining his reasons.

In addition, his representatives have written to Anfield’s American owners bluntly stating the reasons why he should be allowed to leave.

The memo outlines how Torres feels he has been let down over promises made in the summer, when he claimed he was loyal to the club in the face of strong interest from Chelsea, because of the false vision of the future he was sold.

Sources at Stamford Bridge say they have the desire to make it happen and Liverpool will feel they have no option to accept when the price reaches that tipping point, because of the player’s desire to go.

Torres only stayed at Anfield in the summer after a summit meeting with former boss Roy Hodgson in Ibiza, when he was swayed by promises of a rosy future, which simply have not materialised.

Now he is no longer prepared to wait for the Liverpool masterplan to come to fruition.

Liverpool fans were stunned by the developments yesterday, but even among Torres’ most ardent supporters, there is a feeling that a player who no longer has his heart in Anfield should be allowed to go.

With the transfer deadline looming, there is little time for such a massive deal to be completed.

But the feeling at Anfield last night was that the Spaniard may well have kicked his last ball for the club.
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Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

We have to hold out for as much as possible but ultimately should let him go now. Given the evidence of the last 12 months or so, he'll put in fuck all effort until he goes in the summer anyway.

I just hope we can move quick enough to bring at least one more top player in with some of the cash.

Lukaku would be a cracking long-term signing, whilst I wouldn't be averse to getting Forlan in to partner Suarez for 10m or so in the short-term.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

We should hold out for as much as possible then pull out last minute, fuck that disrespectful twat.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Binny link=topic=43861.msg1267735#msg1267735 date=1296269532]

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maybe he'll do a Rooney?
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

This is the Mascher deal all over again, tell Chelsea and Torres to go fuck themselves even for $50m who could we bring in, nobody. His cards are marked he can leave in the sould summer if thats how he wants to play it but to go now with 2 days left in the window and the Suarez deal still to be concluded we realistically have nothing to gain by letting him go now, the cluase is still $50m in the summer so they can pay it then.

If Ajax, Villa and Blackpool can all do business on their own terms then I dont see why we should just roll over cos a player gets his head turned. Our board works for the advancement of Liverpool Football Club not Fernando Torres Inc so he can pull himself off on the bench for the next 4 months as far as Im concerned if hes still worth $50m now after the heartless performances hes put in over the last 12 months then I dont see what he can do between now and June to decrease that.

Chelsea as always can fuck right off
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Screw selling him in the summer.
We don't need another Alonso / Mascherano situation.
We only let dispensable players go. And screw that sentimental nonsense about only having "players with their hearts in it" in the club.
Players are there to earn a living, and the club is there to win trophies.


Do we need the money? If not, keep him for the next two years until his contract runs out. What's he going to do - sulk for two years, or fight for a medal?
And if he needs to go, well he can go off but not to another English club.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=43861.msg1267744#msg1267744 date=1296271059]
Can he play in the Champions League for them?
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anyone?
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=cobrastatus link=topic=43861.msg1267748#msg1267748 date=1296271783]
anyone?
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News from Mar 2010:

UEFA relaxed its rules on players appearing for two teams in one season in the Champions and Europa Leagues on Wednesday.

The executive committee agreed that a player who appears for a club in any of the preliminary rounds of the Champions League or Europa League can play for another team in the competition proper as long as his original team is eliminated in the preliminary competition.

"The rules have been relaxed regarding what the English call "cup-tied" players, that is players who have already played for one team in a competition in a season, UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino told Reuters.

"From next season, if a player's club is eliminated and he signs for a new club by the end of the summer transfer window on September 1 he can play for his new club in either competition.

"If he is not signed by the end of the summer window, he can move in the January window."

The one stipulation that remains is that clubs can add up to three new players in January, only one of whom will be eligible if they have previously played in the qualifying rounds.
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We are still in the Europa league so I guess its a no?
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

To all the journos who can't help but urge Liverpool to sell Torres "cos his heart ain't in it", or write about FSG being tempted to cash in right now:Fucking bullshit.

Chelsea aren't in great shape. They may bounce back, but fact is as it stands, it'll take a couple, maybe three poor games for them, and we'd be competing directly with them for a Europa Cup, or fingers crossed tightly, a CL spot. It not just a matter of weakening us, but why would we help consolidate their grip on those shaky fourth/fifth places in the league when we could well be in the frame 14 matches later? If Henry or Werner doesn't see this, then we all ought to be very afraid for the future of our club.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

rorysmith_tel: For what it's worth, I'm not convinced Torres will get what he wants. #LFC very cross and very strong-minded. Long three days ahead, though.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=RedKev link=topic=43861.msg1267743#msg1267743 date=1296270661]
Jesus, with fans like you lot I've no idea why he would want to leave.
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Jesus, with 100k+ p/w players who couldn't give a shit about the club they play for, why would we want to be a fan of this shit anymore?

Thanks for getting all sanctimonious, we're the ones spending the hard earned money.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=caparo link=topic=43861.msg1267746#msg1267746 date=1296271751]
Do we need the money? If not, keep him for the next two years until his contract runs out. What's he going to do - sulk for two years, or fight for a medal?
And if he needs to go, well he can go off but not to another English club.
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I agree. I avoided this thread for the longest time cos I thought it was all rumours. But now that he's put in a request, I hope that it is within the club financial means to keep him here and let him rot if need be. Logically it makes absolutely no sense to do so, but my heart is saying that we should send a strong signal if any to our players to not fuck about with the club.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

I hope the cunt either stays and gets a shitty reception against Stoke, or he's signs for Chelsea and gets the shite kicked out of him.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Apologies for the source I'm copying this from, but some different 'details':

LIVERPOOL last night turned down a stunning transfer request from Fernando Torres.

The Anfield outfit also [flash=200,200]http://threatened to report Chelsea to the Premier League for allegedly "tapping up"[/flash] the Spanish striker.

They claim Blues went to Torres and his agents to set up a deal before making their £40million bid. Yesterday's high drama also saw:

# Liverpool snub a new offer of £42.5m plus hitman Daniel Sturridge.

# Torres tell Liverpool that he wants a transfer - only for the club to reject his request.

# Kop sources admit a £50m cash offer may change their mind.

# Hitman Luis Suarez join the Reds for £23m from Dutch outfit Ajax.

Liverpool believe that Chelsea have done an 'Ashley Cole' by speaking to the Torres camp without permission.

A senior Anfield source said: "It's clear Fernando has had his head turned and Chelsea have 'previous' for that sort of thing, don't they?

"Ashley Cole springs to mind and it looks like they've been at it again here."

SunSport can reveal Chelsea increased their offer for Torres by £2½m yesterday and threw Sturridge, 21, into the mix.

And Chelsea intend to keep up the pressure, with a Blues insider saying: "Liverpool don't want to sell but a lot depends on the player's wishes."

There is also a belief that Liverpool's stand could also be swayed if Chelsea up their offer to £50m.

Spanish hitman Torres, 26, has told the club he wants to join Chelsea, who are offering £200,000-a-week.

A pal of Torres said: "He believes it's the best thing for himself and Liverpool. He wants to be part of a team capable of competing at the highest level."

Liverpool have worked tirelessly to persuade Torres to stay since Chelsea's initial £40m bid.
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Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

"Liverpool don't want to sell but a lot depends on the player's wishes."

What the fuck is a contract for then? You're a professional, act like one.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Markeh link=topic=43861.msg1267761#msg1267761 date=1296276154]
this is shite, how longs he contracted for?

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Dated 14 August 2009
Liverpool have rewarded Fernando Torres for his outstanding impact at Anfield with a new contract that will increase the Spain striker's wages to £110,000 a week.

The 25-year-old still had four seasons remaining on the six-year, £70,000-a-week deal he signed on becoming Liverpool's record acquisition in 2007 but, under the terms of that transfer, was entitled to review his salary with the club this summer. His new contract will vastly improve his personal terms until 2013 as scheduled – "reflecting his standing as one of the world's top strikers," according to the club – and contains an option for a further year's extension until 2014. It will make him the second-highest-paid player at the club behind the captain, Steven Gerrard.
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That's 2+1 yr. Not sure about the validity of the so called clause inserted earlier this summer though.
 
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