Top 10 wingers in the PL?

[rurikbird]

Just curious about what everyone thinks… who are the best 10 wingers/wide forwards in the league right now?

To clarify the criteria: we’re not comparing players’ entire careers or evaluating transfer values and not even strictly going off stats for current season (even though it’s certainly a factor). Some wingers give you more in general play and some produce better stats - with that in mind, if you’re a manager of a generic Premier League team, who will you pick to help you this season and in what order?

 

[darkstarexodus]

Mo.
Gakpo.
Diaz.
Saka.
Palmer.
Gordon.
Mbeumo.
Outtara.
Bowen.
Foden (although not on this season's form)

Not necessarily in order.

 

[rurikbird]

Mo.
Gakpo.
Diaz.
Saka.
Palmer.
Gordon.
Mbeumo.
Outtara.
Bowen.
Foden (although not on this season's form)

Not necessarily in order.

The order is the point! 🙂

 

[darkstarexodus]

The order is the point!

You need to be more specific then!

Mo.
Saka
Palmer
Gakpo.
Mbeumo
Gordon
Diaz.
Outtara.
Bowen.
Foden

Ok, I'll go with this. Could probably make arguments to rearrange Gakpo through Outtara but I'll hang my hang here.

 

[rurikbird]

For me top 3 is pretty clear:

1. Salah
2. Saka
3. Palmer

Anyone disagree with this?

#4 and below is where it starts to get more tricky. Do you go with Gordon for his energy, Gakpo for his stats or maybe Foden, hoping he will recapture last season’s form?

 

[Modo]

I'll go with the following:

Salah
Saka
Gakpo
Diaz
Gordon
Kulusevski
Mbeumo
Outtara
Semenyo
Son

Honourable mentions:
Pedro Neto
Elanga
Ndiaye
Diallo


Palmer isn't on my list because he isn't a winger.

 

[binomial]

Salah
Diaz
Gakpo
Nunez
Chiesa
Jota
Ngumoha
Morisson
Kone Doherty
Bradshaw

Oh and Palmer is purely a #10.

 

[Modo]

For me top 3 is pretty clear:

1. Salah
2. Saka
3. Palmer

Anyone disagree with this?

#4 and below is where it starts to get more tricky. Do you go with Gordon for his energy, Gakpo for his stats or maybe Foden, hoping he will recapture last season’s form?

I do...Palmer isn't a winger.

 

[darkstarexodus]

For me top 3 is pretty clear:

1. Salah
2. Saka
3. Palmer

Anyone disagree with this?

#4 and below is where it starts to get more tricky. Do you go with Gordon for his energy, Gakpo for his stats or maybe Foden, hoping he will recapture last season’s form?

I think it depends on the team and dynamic needed.

I probably erred in missing Kulusevski.
It's debatable whether Palmer counts but I'm including him. Son is still dangerous but on the downslide.

 

[MomoWASright]

When people say Saka I think of a moaning cunt who is feigning injury. Not a quality winger.

 

[darkstarexodus]

When people say Saka I think of a moaning cunt who is feigning injury. Not a quality winger.

It can be both.

 

[Hansern]

Half of Saka’s assists are corners.

On current form:

Salah
Gakpo
Gordon

Saka would be 3rd if fit

 

[StevieM]

Where does Ryan Fraser appear on the list?

 

[Shadey]

From what I’ve seen of Cheesy he’s up there.

 

[binomial]

Bowen is criminally underrated.

 

[rurikbird]

I do...Palmer isn't a winger.

Yeah, I was unsure on that point myself - he is more of a playmaker for sure, but then it gets into subjective territory of deciding who is a “true” winger. It is simpler just to assume that everyone who mostly plays on the wing is a winger.

 

[Modo]

Yeah, I was unsure on that point myself - he is more of a playmaker for sure, but then it gets into subjective territory of deciding who is a “true” winger. It is simpler just to assume that everyone who mostly plays on the wing is a winger.

Not being obtuse here for the sake of it but there's nothing really subjective about it.
Chelsea play with Madueke and Sancho on the wings. It's like playing Szobo or Harvey on wing. Sure they can do a job there but they're not really a wingers.

 

[localny]

I’d add Isak in there for his runs - not always on the wing.

 

[rurikbird]

Not being obtuse here for the sake of it but there's nothing really subjective about it.
Chelsea play with Madueke and Sancho on the wings. It's like playing Szobo or Harvey on wing. Sure they can do a job there but they're not really a wingers.

I didn’t realize he played 73 games at AM and only 35 on RW - in that case you’re right, he should be classified as an AM, not winger.

And yeah, Kulusevski must be included. What about Semenyo, Elanga?

 

[Modo]

I didn’t realize he played 73 games at AM and only 35 on RW - in that case you’re right, he should be classified as an AM.

And yeah, Kulusevski must be included. What about Semenyo?

Yeah, feels like playing on the wing was his introduction to top flight football.
Anyway...
I'm watching Semenyo right now and he's top class. He's tormenting them atm.
That being said, I'm not sure he's a starter for a top team. Would be a good squad player though.

 

[Buddha]

Yeah, feels like playing on the wing was his introduction to top flight football.
Anyway...
I'm watching Semenyo right now and he's top class. He's tormenting them atm.
That being said, I'm not sure he's a starter for a top team. Would be a good squad player though.

He’s much more of a potential starter for a top team than the much suggested Mbuemo…a much higher ceiling

 

[Squiggles]

1) Salah 2) Saka 3) Gakpo 4) Gordon 5) Diaz 6) Bowen 7) Mbeumo 8) Semenyo 9) Martinelli 10) Kulusevski

I'm going to agree that Palmer and Foden aren't really wingers or wide men. Both want to be in the centre more than anywhere else.

The list might be a bit generous to Bowen on this season alone, but I think he's comfortably proven himself well and often enough to be up there.

Kudos should be on this list on talent, but he's been meh this year.

 

[Modo]

He’s much more of a potential starter for a top team than the much suggested Mbuemo…a much higher ceiling

Definitely, but Semenyo is also 25.

 

[Fabio]

Yeah i feel like if you're a winger 25 is too old for a top team to buy you. You'e hoping to buy their prime, but the change in system and setup more often than not robs you of a year of it

 

[Modo]

Yeah i feel like if you're a winger 25 is too old for a top team to buy you. You'e hoping to buy their prime, but the change in system and setup more often than not robs you of a year of it

I mean it depends, at 25 you want them to be at their peak or close to their peak.
We bought Diaz at that age but we knew what we were getting.
Price/risk is also an important factor to consider.

 

[Buddha]

Definitely, but Semenyo is also 25.

…and is ‘prem proven’…no new league / language issues and combines brilliantly with our future left back.

Joking aside, I’d wager he’d hit the ground running with us.

 

[Gerry_A_Trick]

What age was Salah when we bought him?

 

[Farkmaster]

Bowen is criminally underrated.

I'm one of those criminals. Every time I see him he looks shit.

 

[binomial]

I'm one of those criminals. Every time I see him he looks shit.

Even the times he's scored against us and looked their most dangerous player?

His movement and finishing is amongst the best in the league for a wide man.

 

[binomial]

What age was Salah when we bought him?

He turned 25 the week before.