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the_khl
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[quote author=keniget link=topic=42322.msg1202161#msg1202161 date=1287603191]
Heh, shit. I've been watching the Barca game.
[/quote]
Did you notice how amazingly stupid Santin (FCK) where when he stopped their counter??
Omfg.
Anyways Barca has so far brushed them aside. Wonderful goal by Messi once again.
Heh, shit. I've been watching the Barca game.
[/quote]
Did you notice how amazingly stupid Santin (FCK) where when he stopped their counter??
Omfg.
Anyways Barca has so far brushed them aside. Wonderful goal by Messi once again.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
take that you fucking, fucking, bollock-chopped twitching CUNT!
i think we're all rafa fans tonight. fucking nice one, man.
still, don't know if it says more about me or hodgson's liverpool that i haven't enjoyed a half of football that much since maybe benfica at anfield - or more likely utd about a year ago. whatever, right now i don't care - i'm just deliriously bitter.
take that you fucking, fucking, bollock-chopped twitching CUNT!
i think we're all rafa fans tonight. fucking nice one, man.
still, don't know if it says more about me or hodgson's liverpool that i haven't enjoyed a half of football that much since maybe benfica at anfield - or more likely utd about a year ago. whatever, right now i don't care - i'm just deliriously bitter.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42322.msg1202167#msg1202167 date=1287603712]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=42322.msg1202161#msg1202161 date=1287603191]
Heh, shit. I've been watching the Barca game.
[/quote]
Did you notice how amazingly stupid Santin (FCK) where when he stopped their counter??
Omfg.
Anyways Barca has so far brushed them aside. Wonderful goal by Messi once again.
[/quote]
Heh yeah, that was bizarre. Copenhagen's manager went absolutely mental at him.
So far Barca are making a mockery of your earlier prediction, but they do need another goal or two.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=42322.msg1202161#msg1202161 date=1287603191]
Heh, shit. I've been watching the Barca game.
[/quote]
Did you notice how amazingly stupid Santin (FCK) where when he stopped their counter??
Omfg.
Anyways Barca has so far brushed them aside. Wonderful goal by Messi once again.
[/quote]
Heh yeah, that was bizarre. Copenhagen's manager went absolutely mental at him.
So far Barca are making a mockery of your earlier prediction, but they do need another goal or two.
Fuck I want someone like Bale.
Rangers - Valencia 1-1
Rangers - Valencia 1-1
Holy shit. Tremendous goal. I will now only accept 7-1
Oh and Benitez has subbed on a fullback and he's playing Left Midfield. haha
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202191#msg1202191 date=1287604760]
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
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I think rafa is a good manager but needs a board that will act quickly when he identifies a player he wants. rafa's first choices tend to be excellent.
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
[/quote]
I think rafa is a good manager but needs a board that will act quickly when he identifies a player he wants. rafa's first choices tend to be excellent.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42322.msg1202194#msg1202194 date=1287605097]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202191#msg1202191 date=1287604760]
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
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I think rafa is a good manager but needs a board that will act quickly when he identifies a player he wants. rafa's first choices tend to be excellent.
[/quote]
Pretty sure most managers first choices are. Generally a manager shows their ability when they can find a series of cheap good signings.
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202191#msg1202191 date=1287604760]
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
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I think rafa is a good manager but needs a board that will act quickly when he identifies a player he wants. rafa's first choices tend to be excellent.
[/quote]
Pretty sure most managers first choices are. Generally a manager shows their ability when they can find a series of cheap good signings.
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the_khl
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Aaah shite... So close
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42322.msg1202194#msg1202194 date=1287605097]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202191#msg1202191 date=1287604760]
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
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I think rafa is a good manager but needs a board that will act quickly when he identifies a player he wants. rafa's first choices tend to be excellent.
[/quote]
That's tosh. Like who.. Alves? (who we only know about because he went onto become a great success as a RB! when Rafa wanted him as a RW. I doubt we'd have heard this if he had flopped) Who else?
At the end of the day, Rafa bought what he bought. Those were his choices.
And they were often shite. (6-7 Krompkamps for every Alonso)
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202191#msg1202191 date=1287604760]
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
[/quote]
I think rafa is a good manager but needs a board that will act quickly when he identifies a player he wants. rafa's first choices tend to be excellent.
[/quote]
That's tosh. Like who.. Alves? (who we only know about because he went onto become a great success as a RB! when Rafa wanted him as a RW. I doubt we'd have heard this if he had flopped) Who else?
At the end of the day, Rafa bought what he bought. Those were his choices.
And they were often shite. (6-7 Krompkamps for every Alonso)
[quote author=krissr link=topic=42322.msg1202204#msg1202204 date=1287605504]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42322.msg1202196#msg1202196 date=1287605241]
He'll be fine for a couple of years until he dismantles Jose's team and builds his own.
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Like when he dismantled Houllier's team and won the champions league ? 😉
[/quote]
to be fair he only added two players to GH's squad when he won the CL, that's more enhancing a team than dismantling it.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42322.msg1202196#msg1202196 date=1287605241]
He'll be fine for a couple of years until he dismantles Jose's team and builds his own.
[/quote]
Like when he dismantled Houllier's team and won the champions league ? 😉
[/quote]
to be fair he only added two players to GH's squad when he won the CL, that's more enhancing a team than dismantling it.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42322.msg1202209#msg1202209 date=1287605638]
[quote author=krissr link=topic=42322.msg1202204#msg1202204 date=1287605504]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42322.msg1202196#msg1202196 date=1287605241]
He'll be fine for a couple of years until he dismantles Jose's team and builds his own.
[/quote]
Like when he dismantled Houllier's team and won the champions league ? 😉
[/quote]
to be fair he only added two players to GH's squad when he won the CL, that's more enhancing a team than dismantling it.
[/quote]
to be fair oncy did say a couple of years
[quote author=krissr link=topic=42322.msg1202204#msg1202204 date=1287605504]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42322.msg1202196#msg1202196 date=1287605241]
He'll be fine for a couple of years until he dismantles Jose's team and builds his own.
[/quote]
Like when he dismantled Houllier's team and won the champions league ? 😉
[/quote]
to be fair he only added two players to GH's squad when he won the CL, that's more enhancing a team than dismantling it.
[/quote]
to be fair oncy did say a couple of years
[quote author=krissr link=topic=42322.msg1202204#msg1202204 date=1287605504]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42322.msg1202196#msg1202196 date=1287605241]
He'll be fine for a couple of years until he dismantles Jose's team and builds his own.
[/quote]
Like when he dismantled Houllier's team and won the champions league ? 😉
[/quote]Dont talk shite. Dudek, Hyppia, Carragher, Finnan, Riise, Hamann, Gerrard, Smicer, Kewell, Baros, Cisse......aye proper clear out before we won the cup.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42322.msg1202196#msg1202196 date=1287605241]
He'll be fine for a couple of years until he dismantles Jose's team and builds his own.
[/quote]
Like when he dismantled Houllier's team and won the champions league ? 😉
[/quote]Dont talk shite. Dudek, Hyppia, Carragher, Finnan, Riise, Hamann, Gerrard, Smicer, Kewell, Baros, Cisse......aye proper clear out before we won the cup.
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202205#msg1202205 date=1287605534]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42322.msg1202194#msg1202194 date=1287605097]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202191#msg1202191 date=1287604760]
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
[/quote]
I think rafa is a good manager but needs a board that will act quickly when he identifies a player he wants. rafa's first choices tend to be excellent.
[/quote]
That's tosh. Like who.. Alves? (who we only know about because he went onto become a great success as a RB! when Rafa wanted him as a RW. I doubt we'd have heard this if he had flopped) Who else?
At the end of the day, Rafa bought what he bought. Those were his choices.
And they were often shite. (6-7 Krompkamps for every Alonso)
[/quote]
alves
simeo
malouda
vidic
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42322.msg1202194#msg1202194 date=1287605097]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202191#msg1202191 date=1287604760]
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
[/quote]
I think rafa is a good manager but needs a board that will act quickly when he identifies a player he wants. rafa's first choices tend to be excellent.
[/quote]
That's tosh. Like who.. Alves? (who we only know about because he went onto become a great success as a RB! when Rafa wanted him as a RW. I doubt we'd have heard this if he had flopped) Who else?
At the end of the day, Rafa bought what he bought. Those were his choices.
And they were often shite. (6-7 Krompkamps for every Alonso)
[/quote]
alves
simeo
malouda
vidic
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42322.msg1202213#msg1202213 date=1287605716]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202205#msg1202205 date=1287605534]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42322.msg1202194#msg1202194 date=1287605097]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202191#msg1202191 date=1287604760]
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
[/quote]
I think rafa is a good manager but needs a board that will act quickly when he identifies a player he wants. rafa's first choices tend to be excellent.
[/quote]
That's tosh. Like who.. Alves? (who we only know about because he went onto become a great success as a RB! when Rafa wanted him as a RW. I doubt we'd have heard this if he had flopped) Who else?
At the end of the day, Rafa bought what he bought. Those were his choices.
And they were often shite. (6-7 Krompkamps for every Alonso)
[/quote]
alves
simeo
malouda
vidic
[/quote]
so......4
Alves was glaringly obvious to everyone, as was simao. Vidic may be a case but christ, thats reaching
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202205#msg1202205 date=1287605534]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42322.msg1202194#msg1202194 date=1287605097]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202191#msg1202191 date=1287604760]
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
[/quote]
I think rafa is a good manager but needs a board that will act quickly when he identifies a player he wants. rafa's first choices tend to be excellent.
[/quote]
That's tosh. Like who.. Alves? (who we only know about because he went onto become a great success as a RB! when Rafa wanted him as a RW. I doubt we'd have heard this if he had flopped) Who else?
At the end of the day, Rafa bought what he bought. Those were his choices.
And they were often shite. (6-7 Krompkamps for every Alonso)
[/quote]
alves
simeo
malouda
vidic
[/quote]
so......4
Alves was glaringly obvious to everyone, as was simao. Vidic may be a case but christ, thats reaching
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42322.msg1202213#msg1202213 date=1287605716]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202205#msg1202205 date=1287605534]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42322.msg1202194#msg1202194 date=1287605097]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202191#msg1202191 date=1287604760]
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
[/quote]
I think rafa is a good manager but needs a board that will act quickly when he identifies a player he wants. rafa's first choices tend to be excellent.
[/quote]
That's tosh. Like who.. Alves? (who we only know about because he went onto become a great success as a RB! when Rafa wanted him as a RW. I doubt we'd have heard this if he had flopped) Who else?
At the end of the day, Rafa bought what he bought. Those were his choices.
And they were often shite. (6-7 Krompkamps for every Alonso)
[/quote]
alves
simeo
malouda
vidic
[/quote]
.. and who was his 1st choice signing before he settled on Aquilani or Dossena or Babel or Lucas?
You just named 4 players above who turned out to be good under other managers in other systems, that Rafa later he was after. I'm sure he was after Messi at some point too.
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202205#msg1202205 date=1287605534]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42322.msg1202194#msg1202194 date=1287605097]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=42322.msg1202191#msg1202191 date=1287604760]
I really believe Benitez (despite his cold-shoulder management) is top manager when:
1) He's not actually signing the players.
2) It's early on in his tenure and the squad players (especially) haven't yet been frozen out.
I fully expect him to do well for the first year or two, but when he has to start replacing the likes of Eto, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel, if Moratti gives him free reign in the transfer market, he'll slowly and surely dismantle the side, especially the creativity within it. He seems lucky to have inherited some talented young wingers at Inter (something he couldn't buy for love nor money with us).
[/quote]
I think rafa is a good manager but needs a board that will act quickly when he identifies a player he wants. rafa's first choices tend to be excellent.
[/quote]
That's tosh. Like who.. Alves? (who we only know about because he went onto become a great success as a RB! when Rafa wanted him as a RW. I doubt we'd have heard this if he had flopped) Who else?
At the end of the day, Rafa bought what he bought. Those were his choices.
And they were often shite. (6-7 Krompkamps for every Alonso)
[/quote]
alves
simeo
malouda
vidic
[/quote]
.. and who was his 1st choice signing before he settled on Aquilani or Dossena or Babel or Lucas?
You just named 4 players above who turned out to be good under other managers in other systems, that Rafa later he was after. I'm sure he was after Messi at some point too.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42322.msg1202209#msg1202209 date=1287605638]
[quote author=krissr link=topic=42322.msg1202204#msg1202204 date=1287605504]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42322.msg1202196#msg1202196 date=1287605241]
He'll be fine for a couple of years until he dismantles Jose's team and builds his own.
[/quote]
Like when he dismantled Houllier's team and won the champions league ? 😉
[/quote]
to be fair he only added two players to GH's squad when he won the CL, that's more enhancing a team than dismantling it.
[/quote]
I was just joking, i don't believe that when people say it was his team etc, a new manager likes to build his own squad and team
some players aren't suited to their managers tatctics, like Torres for example, he doesn't suit Hodgsons style of play, the team needs to be pressed higher up the pitch and that's where Torres found his goals, because applying pressure higher up the pitch forces the opposing teams defenders to lose or make a mistake which then Torres would be there to pick up the scraps
[quote author=krissr link=topic=42322.msg1202204#msg1202204 date=1287605504]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42322.msg1202196#msg1202196 date=1287605241]
He'll be fine for a couple of years until he dismantles Jose's team and builds his own.
[/quote]
Like when he dismantled Houllier's team and won the champions league ? 😉
[/quote]
to be fair he only added two players to GH's squad when he won the CL, that's more enhancing a team than dismantling it.
[/quote]
I was just joking, i don't believe that when people say it was his team etc, a new manager likes to build his own squad and team
some players aren't suited to their managers tatctics, like Torres for example, he doesn't suit Hodgsons style of play, the team needs to be pressed higher up the pitch and that's where Torres found his goals, because applying pressure higher up the pitch forces the opposing teams defenders to lose or make a mistake which then Torres would be there to pick up the scraps
He also tried to sign both Villa and Silva years ago, apparantly. Villa before he even joined Valencia.
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