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This Mascherano Stat

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Rosco

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Can it be beaten by any outfield player ?

He won 18 trophies with Barca with 1 goal scores.

Nobody could possibly have a better trophies to goals ratio
 
His team mate Busquets is in single figures but has three more trophy laden seasons, ratio can't be too far off
 
Just checked 7 goals in Busquets senior career, 25 trophies. 3.6 trophies per goal, not really close to Mascherano but also quite an achievement
 
Just checked 7 goals in Busquets senior career, 25 trophies. 3.6 trophies per goal, not really close to Mascherano but also quite an achievement

Off the top of my head, the Neville's could well be contenders.
 
if we also give Mascherano those 2 goals he gave away in the Arsenal 4-4 that I've never forgiven the bucktoothed little cunt for then he's on -6.
 
Yeah I liked him. Mind you, I remember the 'Lucas is better' comments/threads on here so I guess anything is possible.
Really? I always considered myself one of Wonderman's bigger fans and I don't recall anyone calling him better than Mascher. Ever.
 
Yep, didn't take long at all. I didn't find a single post suggesting that Lucas was ever better.

Who said that? Perhaps I can narrow down the search if you can tell me one poster who thought that.

You didn't try very hard.

http://www.sixcrazyminutes.com/index.php?threads/lucas-to-be-better-than-masher-very-soon.13305/

The thread was started by Fox, who is arguably the stupidest cunt to ever post on this site, but still, it's worth a read.

Highlights:

"I predict hardly anyone on here in 6 months time will say Masher is better than Lucas. The rate he has improved in the last 9 months is extraordinary and very soon will be more useful to us than Masher every was" - Fox (please get him back on here, someone)

"Fox I thoroughly agree, he's better than Masher now. People get blinded by his little legs running and slide tackles and think he's hard. Lucas is a footballer an improving one at that, come the Copa America all arguments will be resolved" - KopKing (another massive stupid cunt)
 
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Don't worry Fabio, you can always rely on the most embarrassing LFC fan forum in the world, the execrable RAWK, to easily top anything that even our most stupidest cunts can dream of:

"Lucas will win more honours in his career than any other Liverpool player.
Lucas will win as many prizes as his (team-mates) at Liverpool, under Dalglish. And hopefully, later, Rafa, again. And this might well be a considerable tally.

Our future captain. Already excellent, will be the best in the land in a short while."

"Masch was good at getin the ball but nought else. lucas can get it, run with it comfortably, pass it short and long and he has vision unlike masch"

"Lucas is the better of the two in my opinion right now, and Lucas is still just getting started"

"Lucas is a volante, masch was a destroyer though. Lucas is better for what we are trying to acheive with Kenny, and with the football we're playing now."

"The lad is awesome and runs our midfield like clockwork. Passing, workrate, passion, agression. The only thing he's lacking at the moment is the goals, but now the team is springing forward so quickly with our pass and move, he's getting in some excellent positions in the box. The goals will come."

"Lucas is certainly a better, more accurate, and quicker passer of ball, a more allround player, and will be regarded as a greater for us when he leaves/retires. Fits into Kenny's style of play better, and I definately wouldn't swap them at this stage, even if I thought Masch was outstanding in his first 18 months at our club. However, he didn't evolve his game, and I actually thought he got worse on the ball in his final season"

"He's a player I'd love to see captaining the side in the next couple of years...I think he's the stand-out candidate at the club. No outfield player offers anywhere near his leadership or depth of experience (by which I mean how he's come through hardship) or his fight or his attitude to younger players. I almost get bored these days of Gerrard and Carra being singled out for praise for how they lead the younger ones...they don't. Not like Lucas. The pair of them have always had their favourites, sure they've been great for Spearing...can Ngog or Lucas say the same? No. Lucas doesn't have favourites in that sense...he's the ultimate team player, and that's why he'd be a great captain, even more so than Reina who is hampered by his position and lacks the unique perspective Lucas' birth in fire has given him."

Heh heh heh
 
My own shame

"Theres no doubt in my mind that lucas could be a great midfielder for us.....BUT he'll never be as good as mascher. I still think lucas plays best when relied on to be the box to box player we bought. He's made plenty of late runs in to the box and willing to have a strike and his passing ability ha come one in leaps and bounds."

Could be worse...
 
My own shame:

"He's fucking shite"

"He's fucking shite"

"He's fucking shite"

"He's fucking shite"

"He's fucking shite"

"He's fucking shite"

"He's fucking shite"

"He's fucking shite"

"He's fucking wank"

"He's fucking shite"

"He's fucking shite"

etc
 
But I did believe in Markovic. Totally. I was in Serbia as the deal was going through and everyone there were on about how he was going to be their best player ever, all the other big sides wanted him. If he had all that talent at such a young age then he just must have given up trying. Thought fuck this, I don't like it very much. I mean at least you couldn't level that shit at Lucas. He tried his best, he was just fucking shite.
 
I think Lucas had his wings clipped by Benitez. When we signed him, he was a box-to-box midfielder, but he was assigned the role of defensive midfielder, which he was unsuited for in view of his slow pace and inability to tackle without fouling. Benitez kept him locked in his cage throughout.

After Benitez departed, Lucas occasionally crossed the halfway line and showed some creative talent. But it was too late.
 
I always enjoyed @LarryHagman on Lucas. Here are a few. There are loads more.

I agree that Lucas has many intangible advantages. Unfortunately he also has one main tangible disadvantage. Namely, he's shit.

I love watching Lucas play because it gives me an idea of what a twat I would look like if I was just dropped into a Premiership game. With a Deirdre Barlow bouffant wig on.


I reckon if I could pack my job in and train solid for 3 weeks, I wouldn't be any worse than Lucas.

Ahem (clears throat) ...... Ladies and Gentlemen ...... Lucas Leiva ...... is fucking shit!
(Rapturous applause ... to close).

Lucas only looks decent when we're shit. Like a fat bird up your local whose fanny's a bit choice but you know it's there on a Friday night. When you're on a roll she doesn't get a look in. But, when the chips are down ...

We need one Lucas Lessa before we get one Lucas Moura.

As a side convo, who started this Lucas is ok because of Ronnie Whelan theory? Whelan was a top player, Lucas is shit on toast.
If you find out who it was, punch the cunt on all of our behalfs please.


If I could like my own post, I would.
 
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