He looked dead miserable after the finale whistle even after he got a massive hug from the Klopp-Meister.
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He's simply not athletic or strong enough. Got skill and vision but too easily outmuscled.
He can only play well in a short passing, slow build-up, possession-dominating team and would be great for a Spanish side. He is too weak and slow and gets physically overwhelmed by the faster, bigger, more athletic centre midfielders that have started to proliferate in our League.
He is a good, busy player but has never convinced for us and with his mentor gone, I can't see how he fits in under Klopp's quick-transition style.
Mind you, I've been wrong on so many occasions before - Lucas for example, who continues to be the most dependable centre midfielder we have, in spite of all the times I've written him off.
He is a good, busy player but has never convinced for us and with his mentor gone, I can't see how he fits in under Klopp's quick-transition style.
Mind you, I've been wrong on so many occasions before - Lucas for example, who continues to be the most dependable centre midfielder we have, in spite of all the times I've written him off.
Don't know about everyone else, but I'm sort of sick of Allen playing a few poor to average games, then getting injured, then coming back and being shite for a few games before playing really well for a few and everyone thinking oh look Allen is boss afterall, then he gets injured again for a spell, rinse and repeat.
The above might seem harsh, and he comes across as a really nice lad etc but I can't see him being with us beyond this season.
The above might seem harsh, and he comes across as a really nice lad etc but I can't see him being with us beyond this season.
It looks like he can't see a future for himself here either, that's why he looks so depressed (and plays like it too). Kudos to Klopp for trying his best to cheer him up, irrespective of whether he sees him as a long-term option or not.
He was a waste when we bought him, he is a waste now and will be a waste until we bin him off.
He has NOTHING to offer, wow he can pass a ball sideways - marvellous. He falls over with a gust of wind, his passing is average at best, he has no vision. Those who say he isn't a DM you may be correct but he must be that shite that no manager has even thought about playing anywhere else as he has shown nothing in training to suggest he could.
The sooner we get rid of him the better - an all time bad signing.
He has NOTHING to offer, wow he can pass a ball sideways - marvellous. He falls over with a gust of wind, his passing is average at best, he has no vision. Those who say he isn't a DM you may be correct but he must be that shite that no manager has even thought about playing anywhere else as he has shown nothing in training to suggest he could.
The sooner we get rid of him the better - an all time bad signing.
Poor little hapless Joe. I suppose you could have some sympathy for how Rodgers' unfortunate, ridiculously inappropriate eulogies raised expectations to unattainable levels, with quotes like:
"I would have paid many millions more for this kid. He’s unique in that he’s a British player who is incredible on the ball.
His body work is very intelligent and for a 22-year-old it’s frightening. He’s incredible.
I think the Liverpool supporters enjoy watching this kid play football”
"He is 5ft 6ins but in terms of being a footballer he is 7ft 6ins. He’s absolutely immense. His courage in getting on the ball, how he reads the game and his football intelligence is outstanding.
We paid £15m for him and I said that very quickly that price would double and people probably laughed at me.
But he will play here for many years and the supporters will love this kid.”
"So-called pundits who don’t know the dynamics of a team and how it functions. Joe’s role is to keep the ball. And that, in Britain, is a special talent. It is why Paul Scholes is still playing to his age. It is such a rare talent for a midfielder to rarely give the ball away.
People have talked about him and his fee but in time he will be an absolute bargain. He will have a long career here. He’s a wonderful talent and over time people will see what facets he’s got in his game.
Where we have been really pleased with Joe is with his tactical discipline. Maybe he’s never going to score as many as Steven Gerrard but he’s certainly got quality going forward."
Few players could ever live up to that, much less a mediocre welsh dwarf from Swansea City.
I never wanted us to sign him, and the above risible quotes weren't the first - or last - time I thought Rodgers was a bullshitting charlatan who was about half as clever as he thinks he is.
"I would have paid many millions more for this kid. He’s unique in that he’s a British player who is incredible on the ball.
His body work is very intelligent and for a 22-year-old it’s frightening. He’s incredible.
I think the Liverpool supporters enjoy watching this kid play football”
"He is 5ft 6ins but in terms of being a footballer he is 7ft 6ins. He’s absolutely immense. His courage in getting on the ball, how he reads the game and his football intelligence is outstanding.
We paid £15m for him and I said that very quickly that price would double and people probably laughed at me.
But he will play here for many years and the supporters will love this kid.”
"So-called pundits who don’t know the dynamics of a team and how it functions. Joe’s role is to keep the ball. And that, in Britain, is a special talent. It is why Paul Scholes is still playing to his age. It is such a rare talent for a midfielder to rarely give the ball away.
People have talked about him and his fee but in time he will be an absolute bargain. He will have a long career here. He’s a wonderful talent and over time people will see what facets he’s got in his game.
Where we have been really pleased with Joe is with his tactical discipline. Maybe he’s never going to score as many as Steven Gerrard but he’s certainly got quality going forward."
Few players could ever live up to that, much less a mediocre welsh dwarf from Swansea City.
I never wanted us to sign him, and the above risible quotes weren't the first - or last - time I thought Rodgers was a bullshitting charlatan who was about half as clever as he thinks he is.
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