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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40759.msg1127718#msg1127718 date=1277735754]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=40759.msg1127664#msg1127664 date=1277727830]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40759.msg1127648#msg1127648 date=1277726288]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=40759.msg1127646#msg1127646 date=1277726214]
Just a thought. But why would Roy consider coming to Liverpool as a short term manager until the club is sold? It make no sense whatsoever
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Because in normal circumstances he would not be considered for a job at Liverpool Football Club.

But then we're not in 'normal circumstances'.

We're fucked.
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Squiggles that not what I asked. My point is why would Roy consider it, not why would we consider it
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Yeah - see my first line.
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Yeah I see it - so?
 
This will be his only opportunity to manage a big club side again.

This has come about because Liverpool are in a shit position.
 
what an embarrassing thread!

Roy may or may not be the right choice but at least get behind him if he's appointed!
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40759.msg1127722#msg1127722 date=1277736215]
This will be his only opportunity to manage a big club side again.

This has come about because Liverpool are in a shit position.
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A situation that is 'self-inflicted'. We're going downhill fast and his alleged imminent appointment is testimony of that. Worrying times.
 
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=40759.msg1127726#msg1127726 date=1277736853]
what an embarrassing thread!

Roy may or may not be the right choice but at least get behind him if he's appointed!


[/quote]

Why?
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127728#msg1127728 date=1277737207]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=40759.msg1127726#msg1127726 date=1277736853]
what an embarrassing thread!

Roy may or may not be the right choice but at least get behind him if he's appointed!


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Why?
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Because it's the right thing to do. Hodgson has done nothing to Liverpool as yet and it's surely better the crowd getting behind the manager and players, whoever they may be, rather than having a negative approach. The latter will only make things worse.
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127728#msg1127728 date=1277737207]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=40759.msg1127726#msg1127726 date=1277736853]
what an embarrassing thread!

Roy may or may not be the right choice but at least get behind him if he's appointed!


[/quote]

Why?
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Cos if we dont, & we round on him at games, as a few other forums are suggesting, aiming at getting him out before Christmas, then we'll be no better than Newcastle.

Also, can you imagine being another manager & thinking about the job when that's how your predecessor was treated? Fucking hell, I dread to think the state we'll be in.

It makes me laugh, all these fans blathering on about The Liverpool Way who are showing the exact opposite attitude to everything about The Liverpool Way I ever learned.

BTW, I suggest you have a look at Paisleys & Shank's records pre-LFC, I'm sure you'd have been saying they werent good enough as well.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=40759.msg1127731#msg1127731 date=1277737969]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127728#msg1127728 date=1277737207]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=40759.msg1127726#msg1127726 date=1277736853]
what an embarrassing thread!

Roy may or may not be the right choice but at least get behind him if he's appointed!


[/quote]

Why?
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Because it's the right thing to do. Hodgson has done nothing to Liverpool as yet and it's surely better the crowd getting behind the manager and players, whoever they may be, rather than having a negative approach. The latter will only make things worse.
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I hear you man, I don't want to be negative, but by your logic, whoever is appointed we should get behind him. I'm not going to be calling for him to be out by Christmas, but I'm not going to stand by and say it's fine for us to appoint a mid table manager with a Mediocre record. I think we're letting all this doom and gloom cloud the fact that we are a big club that needs a big name manager.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127733#msg1127733 date=1277738471]

Cos if we dont, & we round on him at games, as a few other forums are suggesting, aiming at getting him out before Christmas, [/quote]

Are you serious? People have lost the plot.
 
We're a big club with big problems at the moment though. We're not an attractive proposition at the moment, much as we're reluctant to admit it.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127733#msg1127733 date=1277738471]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127728#msg1127728 date=1277737207]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=40759.msg1127726#msg1127726 date=1277736853]
what an embarrassing thread!

Roy may or may not be the right choice but at least get behind him if he's appointed!


[/quote]

Why?
[/quote]

Cos if we dont, & we round on him at games, as a few other forums are suggesting, aiming at getting him out before Christmas, then we'll be no better than Newcastle.

Also, can you imagine being another manager & thinking about the job when that's how your predecessor was treated? Fucking hell, I dread to think the state we'll be in.

It makes me laugh, all these fans blathering on about The Liverpool Way who are showing the exact opposite attitude to everything about The Liverpool Way I ever learned.

BTW, I suggest you have a look at Paisleys & Shank's records pre-LFC, I'm sure you'd have been saying they werent good enough as well.
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Completely different times FFFive, comparing apples and oranges, when the managers had less to deal with, and different skill sets were needed for management. Some the same of course. I love the Liverpool Way, but am sick of us being "NICE" and never getting what we need. We're hooked on hiring nice lads, and nice strikers, when what we need is more that. I'm impressed at howe mature and accepting the lads on this board are. It's why I come to SCM, but we're accepting the crumbs with this appointment.

We can do better, and I'm not going to just say this is fine.

We can disagree on this point, right? 😉
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=40759.msg1127735#msg1127735 date=1277739005]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127733#msg1127733 date=1277738471]

Cos if we dont, & we round on him at games, as a few other forums are suggesting, aiming at getting him out before Christmas, [/quote]

Are you serious? People have lost the plot.

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Yeah, seriously.

Some of our fans are seriously deluded about the standard of manager we can attract, & about exactly what level Rafa was at when he left as well.
 
I wouldn't waste your breath Foxy, some people have made their minds up already.
The trouble is , which will be much worse, such is the nature of many of the inhabitants of these forums , they are too intransigent to change their minds, and will keep jumping on every opportunity to say "I told you so", because they just have to be seen as having been right, regardless of the situation we are in.
I have tried to keep out of it as much as possible, but some of the shite about Hodgson spouted on here over the last couple of weeks has been very poor, and some of it by posters I thought much better of to be honest.
It really has left me questioning if it is a place I want to be.


regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40759.msg1127740#msg1127740 date=1277739242]
I wouldn't waste your breath Foxy, some people have made their minds up already.
The trouble is , which will be much worse, such is the nature of many of the inhabitants of these forums , they are too intransigent to change their minds, and will keep jumping on every opportunity to say "I told you so", because they just have to be seen as having been right, regardless of the situation we are in.
I have tried to keep out of it as much as possible, but some of the shite about Hodgson spouted on here over the last couple of weeks has been very poor, and some of it by posters I thought much better of to be honest.
It really has left me questioning if it is a place I want to be.


regards
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But Vladdy, is it not a little high handed to assume people are intransigent just because they won't agree with you. Look, a top 4 finish next season, some good signings, some improvement in play, I'll be the first to put my hands up. I'm not interested in being right here at all. I just think we're lowering our standards because of one bad season and a mountain of debt. Both of which could be gone by next season - if we have a good manager (the ownership thing will get sorted)...

I'm against this appointment for no other reason, than i think he's not up to the grade, yet I have immature eejits calling me a nobhead. But there seems to be some other decent posters. You'll always have the foul mouthed fools...
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127739#msg1127739 date=1277739200]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=40759.msg1127735#msg1127735 date=1277739005]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127733#msg1127733 date=1277738471]

Cos if we dont, & we round on him at games, as a few other forums are suggesting, aiming at getting him out before Christmas, [/quote]

Are you serious? People have lost the plot.

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Yeah, seriously.

Some of our fans are seriously deluded about the standard of manager we can attract, & about exactly what level Rafa was at when he left as well.
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It's not even about that tbh, even if we were in a position to have a manager of a higher calibre and ended up with Hodgson, it still wouldn't excuse trying to get him pushed out before he's even started. What happened to 'The Liverpool Way'. Honestly, if they did that, this would be so far from the club that I started supporting all those years ago.

Are these the same people who cried about Rafa not being treated in the 'Liverpool Way'? i.e. is this what is being said on RAWK?
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127738#msg1127738 date=1277739151]
Completely different times FFFive, comparing apples and oranges, when the managers had less to deal with, and different skill sets were needed for management. Some the same of course. I love the Liverpool Way, but am sick of us being "NICE" and never getting what we need. We're hooked on hiring nice lads, and nice strikers, when what we need is more that. I'm impressed at howe mature and accepting the lads on this board are. It's why I come to SCM, but we're accepting the crumbs with this appointment.

We can do better, and I'm not going to just say this is fine.

We can disagree on this point, right? 😉
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But that's just it, we cant do better.

Very few managers would take the job now, & rightly so. No matter what our 'name', it's almost untenable. You've a split fanbase with a vocal militant-like group spearheading their own agenda & woe betide anyone who disagrees, owners that are hated universally & are trying to sell the club, disillusioned players, a small, if any transfer budget, unrealistic expectations from most of the fanbase & media, as well as the certainty that within 12 months you'll have new ownership who will almost certainly want to bring their own man in.

That's not a good job to walking into.
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127744#msg1127744 date=1277739458]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40759.msg1127740#msg1127740 date=1277739242]
I wouldn't waste your breath Foxy, some people have made their minds up already.
The trouble is , which will be much worse, such is the nature of many of the inhabitants of these forums , they are too intransigent to change their minds, and will keep jumping on every opportunity to say "I told you so", because they just have to be seen as having been right, regardless of the situation we are in.
I have tried to keep out of it as much as possible, but some of the shite about Hodgson spouted on here over the last couple of weeks has been very poor, and some of it by posters I thought much better of to be honest.
It really has left me questioning if it is a place I want to be.


regards


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But Vladdy, is it not a little high handed to assume people are intransigent just because they won't agree with you. Look, a top 4 finish next season, some good signings, some improvement in play, I'll be the first to put my hands up. I'm not interested in bring right here at all. I just think we're lowering our standards because of one bad season and a mountain of debt. Both of which could be gone by next season - if we have a good manager (the ownership thing will get sorted)...

I'm against this appointment for no other reason, than i think he's not up to the grade, yet I have immature eejits calling me a nobhead. But there seems to be some other decent posters. You'll always have the foul mouthed fools...

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Fuck off

regards
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127733#msg1127733 date=1277738471]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127728#msg1127728 date=1277737207]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=40759.msg1127726#msg1127726 date=1277736853]
what an embarrassing thread!

Roy may or may not be the right choice but at least get behind him if he's appointed!


[/quote]

Why?
[/quote]

Cos if we dont, & we round on him at games, as a few other forums are suggesting, aiming at getting him out before Christmas, then we'll be no better than Newcastle.

Also, can you imagine being another manager & thinking about the job when that's how your predecessor was treated? Fucking hell, I dread to think the state we'll be in.

It makes me laugh, all these fans blathering on about The Liverpool Way who are showing the exact opposite attitude to everything about The Liverpool Way I ever learned.

BTW, I suggest you have a look at Paisleys & Shank's records pre-LFC, I'm sure you'd have been saying they werent good enough as well.
[/quote]

You dare compare Hodgson with Shanks & Paisley? Must be good stuff you're on.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40759.msg1127747#msg1127747 date=1277739503]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127744#msg1127744 date=1277739458]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40759.msg1127740#msg1127740 date=1277739242]
I wouldn't waste your breath Foxy, some people have made their minds up already.
The trouble is , which will be much worse, such is the nature of many of the inhabitants of these forums , they are too intransigent to change their minds, and will keep jumping on every opportunity to say "I told you so", because they just have to be seen as having been right, regardless of the situation we are in.
I have tried to keep out of it as much as possible, but some of the shite about Hodgson spouted on here over the last couple of weeks has been very poor, and some of it by posters I thought much better of to be honest.
It really has left me questioning if it is a place I want to be.


regards


[/quote]

But Vladdy, is it not a little high handed to assume people are intransigent just because they won't agree with you. Look, a top 4 finish next season, some good signings, some improvement in play, I'll be the first to put my hands up. I'm not interested in bring right here at all. I just think we're lowering our standards because of one bad season and a mountain of debt. Both of which could be gone by next season - if we have a good manager (the ownership thing will get sorted)...

I'm against this appointment for no other reason, than i think he's not up to the grade, yet I have immature eejits calling me a nobhead. But there seems to be some other decent posters. You'll always have the foul mouthed fools...

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Fuck off

regards
[/quote]

you just became what you Slagged off. Lovely!

REGARDS
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127749#msg1127749 date=1277739629]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40759.msg1127747#msg1127747 date=1277739503]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127744#msg1127744 date=1277739458]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40759.msg1127740#msg1127740 date=1277739242]
I wouldn't waste your breath Foxy, some people have made their minds up already.
The trouble is , which will be much worse, such is the nature of many of the inhabitants of these forums , they are too intransigent to change their minds, and will keep jumping on every opportunity to say "I told you so", because they just have to be seen as having been right, regardless of the situation we are in.
I have tried to keep out of it as much as possible, but some of the shite about Hodgson spouted on here over the last couple of weeks has been very poor, and some of it by posters I thought much better of to be honest.
It really has left me questioning if it is a place I want to be.


regards


[/quote]

But Vladdy, is it not a little high handed to assume people are intransigent just because they won't agree with you. Look, a top 4 finish next season, some good signings, some improvement in play, I'll be the first to put my hands up. I'm not interested in bring right here at all. I just think we're lowering our standards because of one bad season and a mountain of debt. Both of which could be gone by next season - if we have a good manager (the ownership thing will get sorted)...

I'm against this appointment for no other reason, than i think he's not up to the grade, yet I have immature eejits calling me a nobhead. But there seems to be some other decent posters. You'll always have the foul mouthed fools...

[/quote]

Fuck off

regards
[/quote]

you just became what you Slagged off. Lovely!

REGARDS
[/quote]

You Yanks don't do irony do you ?

regards
 
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=40759.msg1127748#msg1127748 date=1277739525]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127733#msg1127733 date=1277738471]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127728#msg1127728 date=1277737207]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=40759.msg1127726#msg1127726 date=1277736853]
what an embarrassing thread!

Roy may or may not be the right choice but at least get behind him if he's appointed!


[/quote]

Why?
[/quote]

Cos if we dont, & we round on him at games, as a few other forums are suggesting, aiming at getting him out before Christmas, then we'll be no better than Newcastle.

Also, can you imagine being another manager & thinking about the job when that's how your predecessor was treated? Fucking hell, I dread to think the state we'll be in.

It makes me laugh, all these fans blathering on about The Liverpool Way who are showing the exact opposite attitude to everything about The Liverpool Way I ever learned.

BTW, I suggest you have a look at Paisleys & Shank's records pre-LFC, I'm sure you'd have been saying they werent good enough as well.
[/quote]

You dare compare Hodgson with Shanks & Paisley? Must be good stuff you're on.
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Way to miss the point.
 
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=40759.msg1127748#msg1127748 date=1277739525]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127733#msg1127733 date=1277738471]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127728#msg1127728 date=1277737207]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=40759.msg1127726#msg1127726 date=1277736853]
what an embarrassing thread!

Roy may or may not be the right choice but at least get behind him if he's appointed!


[/quote]

Why?
[/quote]

Cos if we dont, & we round on him at games, as a few other forums are suggesting, aiming at getting him out before Christmas, then we'll be no better than Newcastle.

Also, can you imagine being another manager & thinking about the job when that's how your predecessor was treated? Fucking hell, I dread to think the state we'll be in.

It makes me laugh, all these fans blathering on about The Liverpool Way who are showing the exact opposite attitude to everything about The Liverpool Way I ever learned.

BTW, I suggest you have a look at Paisleys & Shank's records pre-LFC, I'm sure you'd have been saying they werent good enough as well.
[/quote]

You dare compare Hodgson with Shanks & Paisley? Must be good stuff you're on.
[/quote]

What?!

Re-read what I wrote.

Shankly won nothing before he managed us, if memory serves me correct, & had never managed a club as big as us.

Therefore were any of these people decrying Hodgson around at that time, then surely they'd be saying the same about Shankly?

As for Paisley, he'd never managed anyone before us.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40759.msg1127754#msg1127754 date=1277739859]
Way to miss the point.
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Thank fuck for that, thought I'd written that in a different language or something.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127755#msg1127755 date=1277739860]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=40759.msg1127748#msg1127748 date=1277739525]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127733#msg1127733 date=1277738471]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127728#msg1127728 date=1277737207]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=40759.msg1127726#msg1127726 date=1277736853]
what an embarrassing thread!

Roy may or may not be the right choice but at least get behind him if he's appointed!


[/quote]

Why?
[/quote]

Cos if we dont, & we round on him at games, as a few other forums are suggesting, aiming at getting him out before Christmas, then we'll be no better than Newcastle.

Also, can you imagine being another manager & thinking about the job when that's how your predecessor was treated? Fucking hell, I dread to think the state we'll be in.

It makes me laugh, all these fans blathering on about The Liverpool Way who are showing the exact opposite attitude to everything about The Liverpool Way I ever learned.

BTW, I suggest you have a look at Paisleys & Shank's records pre-LFC, I'm sure you'd have been saying they werent good enough as well.
[/quote]

You dare compare Hodgson with Shanks & Paisley? Must be good stuff you're on.
[/quote]

What?!

Re-read what I wrote.

Shankly won nothing before he managed us, if memory serves me correct, & had never managed a club as big as us.

Therefore were any of these people decrying Hodgson around at that time, then surely they'd be saying the same about Shankly?

As for Paisley, he'd never managed anyone before us.
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Was Shankly 62 when he took over? Paisley was number 2 in a very successful side, no matter what way you look at it, your comparison is not only invalid, its also offensive.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40759.msg1127752#msg1127752 date=1277739797]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127749#msg1127749 date=1277739629]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40759.msg1127747#msg1127747 date=1277739503]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127744#msg1127744 date=1277739458]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40759.msg1127740#msg1127740 date=1277739242]
I wouldn't waste your breath Foxy, some people have made their minds up already.
The trouble is , which will be much worse, such is the nature of many of the inhabitants of these forums , they are too intransigent to change their minds, and will keep jumping on every opportunity to say "I told you so", because they just have to be seen as having been right, regardless of the situation we are in.
I have tried to keep out of it as much as possible, but some of the shite about Hodgson spouted on here over the last couple of weeks has been very poor, and some of it by posters I thought much better of to be honest.
It really has left me questioning if it is a place I want to be.


regards


[/quote]

But Vladdy, is it not a little high handed to assume people are intransigent just because they won't agree with you. Look, a top 4 finish next season, some good signings, some improvement in play, I'll be the first to put my hands up. I'm not interested in bring right here at all. I just think we're lowering our standards because of one bad season and a mountain of debt. Both of which could be gone by next season - if we have a good manager (the ownership thing will get sorted)...

I'm against this appointment for no other reason, than i think he's not up to the grade, yet I have immature eejits calling me a nobhead. But there seems to be some other decent posters. You'll always have the foul mouthed fools...

[/quote]

Fuck off

regards
[/quote]

you just became what you Slagged off. Lovely!

REGARDS
[/quote]

You Yanks don't do irony do you ?

regards
[/quote]

Err i'll ask any yanks if I see them....(PS Ironic statements always need a little help online...)
 
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=40759.msg1127758#msg1127758 date=1277740699]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127755#msg1127755 date=1277739860]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=40759.msg1127748#msg1127748 date=1277739525]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127733#msg1127733 date=1277738471]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127728#msg1127728 date=1277737207]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=40759.msg1127726#msg1127726 date=1277736853]
what an embarrassing thread!

Roy may or may not be the right choice but at least get behind him if he's appointed!


[/quote]

Why?
[/quote]

Cos if we dont, & we round on him at games, as a few other forums are suggesting, aiming at getting him out before Christmas, then we'll be no better than Newcastle.

Also, can you imagine being another manager & thinking about the job when that's how your predecessor was treated? Fucking hell, I dread to think the state we'll be in.

It makes me laugh, all these fans blathering on about The Liverpool Way who are showing the exact opposite attitude to everything about The Liverpool Way I ever learned.

BTW, I suggest you have a look at Paisleys & Shank's records pre-LFC, I'm sure you'd have been saying they werent good enough as well.
[/quote]

You dare compare Hodgson with Shanks & Paisley? Must be good stuff you're on.
[/quote]

What?!

Re-read what I wrote.

Shankly won nothing before he managed us, if memory serves me correct, & had never managed a club as big as us.

Therefore were any of these people decrying Hodgson around at that time, then surely they'd be saying the same about Shankly?

As for Paisley, he'd never managed anyone before us.
[/quote]

Was Shankly 62 when he took over? Paisley was number 2 in a very successful side, no matter what way you look at it, your comparison is not only invalid, its also offensive.
[/quote]

It's not offensive, it's just incorrect. The game has changed in 50 years. The league is now staffed by millionaires and corporations, it's not the working class hero game it once was. Plus, we also now have prawn sandwiches.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127627#msg1127627 date=1277724833]
Look, I'm not over the moon with it either. But it's likely to be relatively short term, RBS will make sure of that cos they want new ownership & new owners want a new manager.

If you judge him as someone prepared to come in on a short term basis, play 'back to basics' footy & keep the ship steady without having a 'five year plan' & wanting back room staff that will cost the earth to move on when inevitably the new owners get shut, it's a sensible, if uninspiring appointment.

I think people need to realise attracting a manager in our current circumstance is difficult, it's almost certainly a poisoned chalice on a short term basis, so we could do a LOT worse.
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If it is such a short term poised chalice - why would Hodgson take it? In fact, why would anyone other thah Dalglish take it?

Also, I'm sure RBS want a quick sale to get their money... what's to stop the Yanks selling the likes of Gerrard & Torres, using the money to pay down significant quantaties of the loan, appointing a manager with a track record of moderate success on a limited budget & hang able to hang on as long as possible in the hope that they'll get the sell price they want.

Just a thought... granted, not a very nice one.
 
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1127733#msg1127733 date=1277738471]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40759.msg1127728#msg1127728 date=1277737207]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=40759.msg1127726#msg1127726 date=1277736853]
what an embarrassing thread!

Roy may or may not be the right choice but at least get behind him if he's appointed!


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Why?
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Cos if we dont, & we round on him at games, as a few other forums are suggesting, aiming at getting him out before Christmas, then we'll be no better than Newcastle.

Also, can you imagine being another manager & thinking about the job when that's how your predecessor was treated? Fucking hell, I dread to think the state we'll be in.

It makes me laugh, all these fans blathering on about The Liverpool Way who are showing the exact opposite attitude to everything about The Liverpool Way I ever learned.

BTW, I suggest you have a look at Paisleys & Shank's records pre-LFC, I'm sure you'd have been saying they werent good enough as well.
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You dare compare Hodgson with Shanks & Paisley? Must be good stuff you're on.
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What?!

Re-read what I wrote.

Shankly won nothing before he managed us, if memory serves me correct, & had never managed a club as big as us.

Therefore were any of these people decrying Hodgson around at that time, then surely they'd be saying the same about Shankly?

As for Paisley, he'd never managed anyone before us.
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Was Shankly 62 when he took over? Paisley was number 2 in a very successful side, no matter what way you look at it, your comparison is not only invalid, its also offensive.
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It's not offensive, it's just incorrect. The game has changed in 50 years. The league is now staffed by millionaires and corporations, it's not the working class hero game it once was. Plus, we also now have prawn sandwiches.
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Ha ha Indeed. Why anyone would put Hodgson in the same sentence as Shanks/Paisley, let alone make any sort of comparison without irony, is beyond me. Hodgson is not the calibre of manager we should be looking at as a top team unless its our intention to no longer be a top team.

Yes he may surprise us and be another Paisley, but at his age and stage of career, it's highly unlikely. No matter what spin some misguided posters want to put on it, he should not be allowed anywhere near our club, whether he's 'Shanks in disguise' or not.
 
What makes me laugh at these people who want Hodgson sacked before he even gets the job, is that not one of them has come up with a credible alternative.

Im still wondering why Hodgson would even come to us, if as some people seem to think, he is only a stopgap until the club is sold
 
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