The sending off
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100% red
Having seen it several more times I'm grudgingly accepting that it's probably a red. I don't think it's as cut and dry as some think though.
It's a red. I can't understand how people can see it otherwise.
Could've been a yellow but it was foolish from mane.
It's a red card. But Mané did not commit the foul cynically and I think, since he was concentrating on the ball, that he was somewhat unlucky. Stupid, but also unlucky.
It was of course a red. No intent from the guy but still it is what it is.
When Nani caught that Bayern Munich player in the head a couple of seasons back and got sent off I thought it was 100% a red, and I suspect every poster on here did too. I think Manes challenge is actually worse, in real time I thought he pulled out of it and the keeper was milking it. Once you see the replay I can't see an argument with the decision. Yes it's unintentional but it's reckless, it's late and he has no control. Once he misses the ball he's gone.
There was no intent, Mane has his eyes focused entirely on the ball. The challenge is towards the ball, not the player. The players diagonally cross eachother in both going for the ball, they cross paths, they're not challenging head on. So it's not that cut and dried.
You can do that in space on the pitch to control the ball and it's not a punishable offense, we're counting on guessing the perception that the player had of the time he had to win the ball. You see boot raised challenges alot that get less. Had Ozil made full contact two weeks ago with Henderson, it doesn't necessarily become a red card offence. Henderson jumped out the way so it's a lesser offense. It's an ambiguous rule.
My initial reaction in the match thread was that it was a horrible decision. That was based on the assumption that Mane had his foot raised in a situation where he had the right to go for the ball, and the keeper lunged to clear the ball with his head stooped.
But if you see the replay, the keeper has actually reached the ball first, and Mane has actually leapt forward with both feet off the ground in a desperate attempt to nick the ball.
The intent is to play the ball, but he's kicked a guy full in the face. It's a red unfortunately.
But if you see the replay, the keeper has actually reached the ball first, and Mane has actually leapt forward with both feet off the ground in a desperate attempt to nick the ball.
The intent is to play the ball, but he's kicked a guy full in the face. It's a red unfortunately.
Mane's challenge for the ball was reckless at most, and Law 12 of the FA Rules states that "Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned" [my italics]. On that basis it should have been a yellow, not a red.
They both have all bad luck in the world. Of course Mane should go for the ball, and he just give everything. The goalie too. Win the ball and get caught. Yellow yeah... red maybe.... but what happened happened. Now we need to find a way to cope without him in the league. Luckily he is available in the CL.
I agree. That the goalie get injured is not a red card defence in itself.
He didn't do it intentionally but his foot was high but that's the dangerous part of the game it's just unlucky he might have got away with a yellow but he didn't. We just have to move on and regroup it's only one game learn from it and try to not give the ref a decision to make like that agsin.
Fuck city I say
Fuck city I say
It's a harsh red card and definitely an unlucky one, in that he had eyes only for the ball and if Ederson went with his hands, no one is saying it's a red. The fact he went with his head, means it's looks a lot worse than it was. I don't even think he caught him cleanly.
Have yo agee ... i still dont think its a red as bad as the incident was. The goal keeper nodded his head down to head the ball and virtually put his in the way of mane's foot. I dont think its dangerous play from Mane as any striker would have gone for it in that area.
Both feet off the ground
People scream for reds when it's shin height and both feet are off the ground
Well that's because it's generating far more force.. I can't quite understand why you're comparing the two
Because mane had both feet off the floor.
Because mane was not in control at all of his body or the challenge for the ball.
His boot went clean through someone's face ffs.
As much as people are saying the keepers head was in an unnatural position, it wasn't. It was slightly lower than just standing still. Manes was jumping, so his foot was head height
Zero control, massive contact, intention irrelevant in that case.
You can't argue with stupid (opinions in this case).
Haven't you learned anything from our Lallana discussions?
HE has escaped with plasters on his face ! Fucking plasters !
How else would kick the ball?
Mental. Have you never gone for a 50/50 in a football match before ? As I said , this could be a red but it was harsh , Mane was unlucky
Oh so we should have wished for worse on him to justify the red?
Get to fuck
Another day that could have broken his jaw or dislocated an eye socket. He's lucky it wasn't worse.
I look forward to the next time a fucking diabolical tackle happens on our lads for the rank hypocrisy that will no doubt be spouted on here
And as for no control... You serious? He fucking flying kicked him in the face. He had ZERO control of where his body would end up
Gary Neville said it was harsh.
Don't know who to believe.
Professional footballer who has been in similar circumstances or sum fat internet bums.
Hard to know really.
Don't know who to believe.
Professional footballer who has been in similar circumstances or sum fat internet bums.
Hard to know really.
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