Dunno, but nothing I'd ever try.What do you think they’re smoking down there in south London?
If it was crack they'd accept a used VHS player for Doucoure.
Must be meth.
Dunno, but nothing I'd ever try.What do you think they’re smoking down there in south London?
Not necessarily, I mean we can play teams against each other. Not all teams can say no to £35 mill.
Or we've already got someone lined up
@StevieM , is Sangare shit ? If not this might be the best post you have ever made.That’s the sort of out of the blue signing that we seem to be masters of.
Its’s also bang on our favourite price range.
It also means there’s money for a second midfielder - Thuram would be ideal.
Same stuff as Arsenal were back in the day they wanted SuarezWhat do you think they’re smoking down there in south London?
It doesn't surprise me... They're not keen on selling him and so have put a price tag to deter rival clubs.Lol
Funniest thing I’ve read in a while.
We’re gonna overpay for the player we buy now. The market is fucked, teams know we are after one and have money.
We’ll just have to be okay with it and hope we get the right player.
Treat them like we treated Norwich.Was just going to say the same thing.
Everyone knows we need to buy so there is no real incentive to lower the price. Move onto other targets? Meh. Most clubs don't need to sell on the cheap at the moment.
@StevieM , is Sangare shit ? If not this might be the best post you have ever made.
He had a release clause of £35m that's why we got him so cheapIt's as if people have forgotten we've signed MacAllister for 35m already.....but no, we HAVE to overpay now if we want someone in.
True, a release clause put in his contract just before the world cup by his club….if this market was so overinflated like everyone keeps harping on about….they wouldn’t have done so and he’d have a 60-70m release instead. They’ll always be advantages in the buying clubs favour we can make full use of.He had a release clause of £35m that's why we got him so cheap
He was about to be a free this summer numbnuts so before the world cup Brighton said how about we extend the deal so we at least get something for you and his camp agreed on provision that a release clause was inserted at £35m with add ons. The market is still over inflated. They had a choice get something for him or get nothingTrue, a release clause put in his contract just before the world cup by his club….if this market was so overinflated like everyone keeps harping on about….they wouldn’t have done so and he’d have a 60-70m release instead. They’ll always be advantages in the buying clubs favour we can make full use of.
Tbh I don't think we did plan for Hendo or Fab to move on until last week.Well well well. If it isn't the consequences of our own inactivity coming to bite us for another year.
We're fucking shite at succession planning
Thats not the point. Every man and his dog knew we needed to buy at least one CM last summer. Most were asking for two then. But our poundland owners did bugger all and now we are paying the price. Given their age, the decline in our midfielders was no surprise. We fucked up and paid the price.Tbh I don't think we did plan for Hendo or Fab to move on until last week.
Relax, we'll sign Sangare + Andre + a CB then we'll go on to win the league and all this will be forgotten about.
We scouted Doucoure a lot before he moved to Palace.
Luis or Doucoure are the two at the top of the list I guess.
If possible it would be Tchouameni but that wont happen.
Thats not the point. Every man and his dog knew we needed to buy at least one CM last summer. Most were asking for two then. But our poundland owners did bugger all and now we are paying the price. Given their age, the decline in our midfielders was no surprise. We fucked up and paid the price.
Thats not the point. Every man and his dog knew we needed to buy at least one CM last summer. Most were asking for two then. But our poundland owners did bugger all and now we are paying the price. Given their age, the decline in our midfielders was no surprise. We fucked up and paid the price.
This seems to be the case so often with us. We miss out when the player is going for a song.
Not so simple. Top clubs allow the mid table clubs to take the risk they will / won't work out and then are happy to pay the price when they are successful.If we pull our heads out our arses we'll see there are a few players like Doucoure in France, & scattered elsewhere all over Europe ready to be snapped up for nothing....feeder clubs end up signing them and after a year or 2 sell them off to bigger clubs for 3x what they paid for them.
Palhinha is another example.
Adams is another.
Lavia is another.
Not so simple. Top clubs allow the mid table clubs to take the risk they will / won't work out and then are happy to pay the price when they are successful.
Far more fail than are deemed good enough for a Top 4 club.
All true, of course. I would add that Klopp/Edwards/Ward, etc, should have done more to offload Keita and Chamberlain years before letting them leave for free. Klopp was used to Dortmund's side being taken apart by Bayern each year, so he isn't overly experienced at proactively refreshing a squad and understandably offers loyalty to the team. However, there has to be a point where a line is drawn and that loyalty ends. The likes of Fergusson would have ruthlessly stuck them with the kids until a buyer was sought or they were off the wage bill. If we had got those signings right to begin with we would be in a much better position now in terms of the age profiles of the squad, but we didn't. However, the failure to shift them off the books when it was clear as the day they could not be relied upon deserves some scrutiny into our failings last season and the challenges we face today.
Tbf just letting them both go and not signing anyone would still have been better than having them as they were a waste of space.Exactly. In retrospect, simply letting Keita and Ox go 1-2 seasons earlier and investing 15-20M in the likes of Doucoure/Caicedo while they still under the radar would have solved nearly all our problems.
All true, of course. I would add that Klopp/Edwards/Ward, etc, should have done more to offload Keita and Chamberlain years before letting them leave for free. Klopp was used to Dortmund's side being taken apart by Bayern each year, so he isn't overly experienced at proactively refreshing a squad and understandably offers loyalty to the team. However, there has to be a point where a line is drawn and that loyalty ends. The likes of Fergusson would have ruthlessly stuck them with the kids until a buyer was sought or they were off the wage bill. If we had got those signings right to begin with we would be in a much better position now in terms of the age profiles of the squad, but we didn't. However, the failure to shift them off the books when it was clear as the day they could not be relied upon deserves some scrutiny into our failings last season and the challenges we face today.
Fair enough. I do think in regards to fabinho the Saudis have done us a favour. Klopp has a bad habit of holding players for too long. Now he's forced to replace him. Hendo is a bigger blow as our leader.Haha that's true but last summer is gone now, we've all had our ramblings about that and I was just as annoyed as the next man but I've left that in the past now because it's history.
But specifically talking about this summer it looks as though we were ready to rock with what we had (in midfield anyway) before the news that the Saudi's wanted Fab & Hendo. So now these look to be over the line let's see what transpires over the next 5-6 weeks..