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keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
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Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
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6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
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There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
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how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
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keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
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6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
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There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
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how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36631.msg968494#msg968494 date=1256192104]
keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
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6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
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There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
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how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
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Oh dear!
Its not all about the money you baloonhead!!
Wenger has won titles and built two great teams at Arsenal with this set to be his 3rd great team. Agreed he's 2 players short. A top class keeper and a dominant DM. But he's earned to right to let this team grow and mature.
Arsenal, like Liverpool, aren't on the Chelski/ Citeh / Manure level of finance, but would you ever say that winning the title was no longer a realistic aim for your club? And if the general feeling was that Arsenal could no longer compete, what would that mean for Wenger's future??
Wenger has probably made Arsenal more than he's spend in his time. And i'd say its probably a lot more. He's proven you don't need to be handed vast amounts to spend when you buy the right players.
And don't give me shit about the time Wenger took to win his first title.
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keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
[/quote]
6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
[/quote]
There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
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how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
[/quote]
Oh dear!
Its not all about the money you baloonhead!!
Wenger has won titles and built two great teams at Arsenal with this set to be his 3rd great team. Agreed he's 2 players short. A top class keeper and a dominant DM. But he's earned to right to let this team grow and mature.
Arsenal, like Liverpool, aren't on the Chelski/ Citeh / Manure level of finance, but would you ever say that winning the title was no longer a realistic aim for your club? And if the general feeling was that Arsenal could no longer compete, what would that mean for Wenger's future??
Wenger has probably made Arsenal more than he's spend in his time. And i'd say its probably a lot more. He's proven you don't need to be handed vast amounts to spend when you buy the right players.
And don't give me shit about the time Wenger took to win his first title.
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keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
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oh, NINE games...
[/quote]Dont get fucking sarccy with me, ive already said im not in favour of it, im pointing out that your shameless sensationalising and belittleing are duly noted.
I think sacking a manager 9 games into a season is daft but that doesnt mean im right.
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I wouldn't sake the manager after nine games even if he'd lost all nine games and were rock bottom of the league. people wanted rafa out during the winter slump but we eventually came 2nd. I'm not going to make out I have the patience of job but there is a right time and a wrong time and personally I don't ever thing the right time is midseason.
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Mid-season?? ?? Yeah right! Its mid-October now boy!!! Mid-October!!!!!!
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keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
oh, NINE games...
[/quote]Dont get fucking sarccy with me, ive already said im not in favour of it, im pointing out that your shameless sensationalising and belittleing are duly noted.
I think sacking a manager 9 games into a season is daft but that doesnt mean im right.
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I wouldn't sake the manager after nine games even if he'd lost all nine games and were rock bottom of the league. people wanted rafa out during the winter slump but we eventually came 2nd. I'm not going to make out I have the patience of job but there is a right time and a wrong time and personally I don't ever thing the right time is midseason.
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Mid-season?? ?? Yeah right! Its mid-October now boy!!! Mid-October!!!!!!
Sack the manager after 9 games? Have all the changes made this an Everton site?
More sensationalist bollocks from the lunatic fringe. Agree with Farky's post.
More sensationalist bollocks from the lunatic fringe. Agree with Farky's post.
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keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
[/quote]
6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
[/quote]
There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
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how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
[/quote]
Oh dear!
Its not all about the money you baloonhead!!
Wenger has won titles and built two great teams at Arsenal with this set to be his 3rd great team. Agreed he's 2 players short. A top class keeper and a dominant DM. But he's earned to right to let this team grow and mature.
Arsenal, like Liverpool, aren't on the Chelski/ Citeh / Manure level of finance, but would you ever say that winning the title was no longer a realistic aim for your club? And if the general feeling was that Arsenal could no longer compete, what would that mean for Wenger's future??
Wenger has probably made Arsenal more than he's spend in his time. And i'd say its probably a lot more. He's proven you don't need to be handed vast amounts to spend when you buy the right players.
And don't give me shit about the time Wenger took to win his first title.
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since chelsea and manu have spent big what exactly have arsenal won?
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keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
[/quote]
6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
[/quote]
There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
[/quote]
how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
[/quote]
Oh dear!
Its not all about the money you baloonhead!!
Wenger has won titles and built two great teams at Arsenal with this set to be his 3rd great team. Agreed he's 2 players short. A top class keeper and a dominant DM. But he's earned to right to let this team grow and mature.
Arsenal, like Liverpool, aren't on the Chelski/ Citeh / Manure level of finance, but would you ever say that winning the title was no longer a realistic aim for your club? And if the general feeling was that Arsenal could no longer compete, what would that mean for Wenger's future??
Wenger has probably made Arsenal more than he's spend in his time. And i'd say its probably a lot more. He's proven you don't need to be handed vast amounts to spend when you buy the right players.
And don't give me shit about the time Wenger took to win his first title.
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since chelsea and manu have spent big what exactly have arsenal won?
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Given our site's been given a nice face lift, I think it's only fair that we add a new forum, right at the bottom of the forum list, especially for our 'special' friends.
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Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum,
What might be right for you, may not be right for some.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.
Given our site's been given a nice face lift, I think it's only fair that we add a new forum, right at the bottom of the forum list, especially for our 'special' friends.
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Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum,
What might be right for you, may not be right for some.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.
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keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
[/quote]
6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
[/quote]
There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
[/quote]
how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
[/quote]
Oh dear!
Its not all about the money you baloonhead!!
Wenger has won titles and built two great teams at Arsenal with this set to be his 3rd great team. Agreed he's 2 players short. A top class keeper and a dominant DM. But he's earned to right to let this team grow and mature.
Arsenal, like Liverpool, aren't on the Chelski/ Citeh / Manure level of finance, but would you ever say that winning the title was no longer a realistic aim for your club? And if the general feeling was that Arsenal could no longer compete, what would that mean for Wenger's future??
Wenger has probably made Arsenal more than he's spend in his time. And i'd say its probably a lot more. He's proven you don't need to be handed vast amounts to spend when you buy the right players.
And don't give me shit about the time Wenger took to win his first title.
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since chelsea and manu have spent big what exactly have arsenal won?
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So you're saying we should hope Manure, Citeh and Chelsea now stop spending for us to be equal on financial terms to win the league?
Has Wenger come out and say he has not enough money to try and compete with Manure and Chelsea?? Fucking hell!
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keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
[/quote]
6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
[/quote]
There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
[/quote]
how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
[/quote]
Oh dear!
Its not all about the money you baloonhead!!
Wenger has won titles and built two great teams at Arsenal with this set to be his 3rd great team. Agreed he's 2 players short. A top class keeper and a dominant DM. But he's earned to right to let this team grow and mature.
Arsenal, like Liverpool, aren't on the Chelski/ Citeh / Manure level of finance, but would you ever say that winning the title was no longer a realistic aim for your club? And if the general feeling was that Arsenal could no longer compete, what would that mean for Wenger's future??
Wenger has probably made Arsenal more than he's spend in his time. And i'd say its probably a lot more. He's proven you don't need to be handed vast amounts to spend when you buy the right players.
And don't give me shit about the time Wenger took to win his first title.
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since chelsea and manu have spent big what exactly have arsenal won?
[/quote]
So you're saying we should hope Manure, Citeh and Chelsea now stop spending for us to be equal on financial terms to win the league?
Has Wenger come out and say he has not enough money to try and compete with Manure and Chelsea?? Fucking hell!
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Glock, you're such a cock.
What fucking good is it going to do by sacking Rafa? Fuck all! Yes, Rafa has his failings, but so do other managers. At this moment in time, it is not viable to sack Rafa for a number of reasons that have already been explained to death on this forum. You do not just become a bad manager overnight. At the end of the day, if (and a big if) we beat the twats from old toilet at the weekend we'll only be 4 points behnid them. Hopefully a win will give the team and club a massive confidence boost, and with injured players returning, we can get our season going again, including 3 champions league victories.
So what do you say, get off your high horse demanding rafa quits and get behind the team like any real fan would in these diffcult times?
What fucking good is it going to do by sacking Rafa? Fuck all! Yes, Rafa has his failings, but so do other managers. At this moment in time, it is not viable to sack Rafa for a number of reasons that have already been explained to death on this forum. You do not just become a bad manager overnight. At the end of the day, if (and a big if) we beat the twats from old toilet at the weekend we'll only be 4 points behnid them. Hopefully a win will give the team and club a massive confidence boost, and with injured players returning, we can get our season going again, including 3 champions league victories.
So what do you say, get off your high horse demanding rafa quits and get behind the team like any real fan would in these diffcult times?
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Glock, you're such a cock.
What fucking good is it going to do by sacking Rafa? Fuck all! Yes, Rafa has his failings, but so do other managers. At this moment in time, it is not viable to sack Rafa for a number of reasons that have already been explained to death on this forum. You do not just become a bad manager overnight. At the end of the day, if (and a big if) we beat the twats from old toilet at the weekend we'll only be 4 points behnid them. Hopefully a win will give the team and club a massive confidence boost, and with injured players returning, we can get our season going again, including 3 champions league victories.
So what do you say, get off your high horse demanding rafa quits and get behind the team like any real fan would in these diffcult times?
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Says Rafael fan like you. Yeah if we win against Manure blah blah blah....if we lose?? ?? You'll be the first one on your donkey and demand Rafael's sacking. Idiot.
Glock, you're such a cock.
What fucking good is it going to do by sacking Rafa? Fuck all! Yes, Rafa has his failings, but so do other managers. At this moment in time, it is not viable to sack Rafa for a number of reasons that have already been explained to death on this forum. You do not just become a bad manager overnight. At the end of the day, if (and a big if) we beat the twats from old toilet at the weekend we'll only be 4 points behnid them. Hopefully a win will give the team and club a massive confidence boost, and with injured players returning, we can get our season going again, including 3 champions league victories.
So what do you say, get off your high horse demanding rafa quits and get behind the team like any real fan would in these diffcult times?
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Says Rafael fan like you. Yeah if we win against Manure blah blah blah....if we lose?? ?? You'll be the first one on your donkey and demand Rafael's sacking. Idiot.
Glock = Cock
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keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
[/quote]
6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
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There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
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how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
[/quote]
Oh dear!
Its not all about the money you baloonhead!!
Wenger has won titles and built two great teams at Arsenal with this set to be his 3rd great team. Agreed he's 2 players short. A top class keeper and a dominant DM. But he's earned to right to let this team grow and mature.
Arsenal, like Liverpool, aren't on the Chelski/ Citeh / Manure level of finance, but would you ever say that winning the title was no longer a realistic aim for your club? And if the general feeling was that Arsenal could no longer compete, what would that mean for Wenger's future??
Wenger has probably made Arsenal more than he's spend in his time. And i'd say its probably a lot more. He's proven you don't need to be handed vast amounts to spend when you buy the right players.
And don't give me shit about the time Wenger took to win his first title.
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since chelsea and manu have spent big what exactly have arsenal won?
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So you're saying we should hope Manure, Citeh and Chelsea now stop spending for us to be equal on financial terms to win the league?
Has Wenger come out and say he has not enough money to try and compete with Manure and Chelsea?? Fucking hell!
[/quote]
Its funny how blind some people are. 12 games into the season and we have lost 6 of them, its fucking pathetic and should not be happening to our club.
Rafa is at fault and people need to stop trying to cover his ass. He picks the team we go out and play with and his teams have been fucking shit! he picks the players that we sign and although he has signed some great players like torres, agger, mascher etc he has signed more SHIT than good. wtf is lucas still doing at our club? why is that ponytailed faggot voronin at our club? the greek? degen... rafa is fucking over-rated and his true colours are coming out.
sack the cunt and bring in a coach that doesnt play defensively or leave his substitutions til the 85th minute and take off attacking players for defensive players.
ill use the lyon game as an example. benayoun was one of our better players on the night and instead of making a sub after they scored he waited til there was 5minutes left and instead of taking off lucas who is just a passenger in every game he plays... he takes off benayoun for voronin. He leaves babel on the bench and then babel cops all the stick for being shit. well maybe if our manager believed in him and had some confidence in him, we might see a star player. Id put my life on it that if babel was at a team like arsenal, he would be 1 of the best players in the world atm but no benitez is just a fat fuck.
i agree with glock.. rafa should be gone!!!
bring in someone like laudrup or bilic
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36631.msg968494#msg968494 date=1256192104]
keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
[/quote]
6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
[/quote]
There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
[/quote]
how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
[/quote]
Oh dear!
Its not all about the money you baloonhead!!
Wenger has won titles and built two great teams at Arsenal with this set to be his 3rd great team. Agreed he's 2 players short. A top class keeper and a dominant DM. But he's earned to right to let this team grow and mature.
Arsenal, like Liverpool, aren't on the Chelski/ Citeh / Manure level of finance, but would you ever say that winning the title was no longer a realistic aim for your club? And if the general feeling was that Arsenal could no longer compete, what would that mean for Wenger's future??
Wenger has probably made Arsenal more than he's spend in his time. And i'd say its probably a lot more. He's proven you don't need to be handed vast amounts to spend when you buy the right players.
And don't give me shit about the time Wenger took to win his first title.
[/quote]
since chelsea and manu have spent big what exactly have arsenal won?
[/quote]
So you're saying we should hope Manure, Citeh and Chelsea now stop spending for us to be equal on financial terms to win the league?
Has Wenger come out and say he has not enough money to try and compete with Manure and Chelsea?? Fucking hell!
[/quote]
Its funny how blind some people are. 12 games into the season and we have lost 6 of them, its fucking pathetic and should not be happening to our club.
Rafa is at fault and people need to stop trying to cover his ass. He picks the team we go out and play with and his teams have been fucking shit! he picks the players that we sign and although he has signed some great players like torres, agger, mascher etc he has signed more SHIT than good. wtf is lucas still doing at our club? why is that ponytailed faggot voronin at our club? the greek? degen... rafa is fucking over-rated and his true colours are coming out.
sack the cunt and bring in a coach that doesnt play defensively or leave his substitutions til the 85th minute and take off attacking players for defensive players.
ill use the lyon game as an example. benayoun was one of our better players on the night and instead of making a sub after they scored he waited til there was 5minutes left and instead of taking off lucas who is just a passenger in every game he plays... he takes off benayoun for voronin. He leaves babel on the bench and then babel cops all the stick for being shit. well maybe if our manager believed in him and had some confidence in him, we might see a star player. Id put my life on it that if babel was at a team like arsenal, he would be 1 of the best players in the world atm but no benitez is just a fat fuck.
i agree with glock.. rafa should be gone!!!
bring in someone like laudrup or bilic
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=36631.msg968562#msg968562 date=1256199068]
Rafa's ten mistakes
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/21/rafael-benitez-10-mistakes-liverpool
Good read that. Thanks!
Rafa's ten mistakes
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/21/rafael-benitez-10-mistakes-liverpool
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Good read that. Thanks!
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36631.msg968494#msg968494 date=1256192104]
keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
[/quote]
6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
[/quote]
There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
[/quote]
how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
[/quote]
Oh dear!
Its not all about the money you baloonhead!!
Wenger has won titles and built two great teams at Arsenal with this set to be his 3rd great team. Agreed he's 2 players short. A top class keeper and a dominant DM. But he's earned to right to let this team grow and mature.
Arsenal, like Liverpool, aren't on the Chelski/ Citeh / Manure level of finance, but would you ever say that winning the title was no longer a realistic aim for your club? And if the general feeling was that Arsenal could no longer compete, what would that mean for Wenger's future??
Wenger has probably made Arsenal more than he's spend in his time. And i'd say its probably a lot more. He's proven you don't need to be handed vast amounts to spend when you buy the right players.
And don't give me shit about the time Wenger took to win his first title.
[/quote]
since chelsea and manu have spent big what exactly have arsenal won?
[/quote]
So you're saying we should hope Manure, Citeh and Chelsea now stop spending for us to be equal on financial terms to win the league?
Has Wenger come out and say he has not enough money to try and compete with Manure and Chelsea?? Fucking hell!
[/quote]
Its funny how blind some people are. 12 games into the season and we have lost 6 of them, its fucking pathetic and should not be happening to our club.
Rafa is at fault and people need to stop trying to cover his ass. He picks the team we go out and play with and his teams have been fucking shit! he picks the players that we sign and although he has signed some great players like torres, agger, mascher etc he has signed more SHIT than good. wtf is lucas still doing at our club? why is that ponytailed faggot voronin at our club? the greek? degen... rafa is fucking over-rated and his true colours are coming out.
sack the cunt and bring in a coach that doesnt play defensively or leave his substitutions til the 85th minute and take off attacking players for defensive players.
ill use the lyon game as an example. benayoun was one of our better players on the night and instead of making a sub after they scored he waited til there was 5minutes left and instead of taking off lucas who is just a passenger in every game he plays... he takes off benayoun for voronin. He leaves babel on the bench and then babel cops all the stick for being shit. well maybe if our manager believed in him and had some confidence in him, we might see a star player. Id put my life on it that if babel was at a team like arsenal, he would be 1 of the best players in the world atm but no benitez is just a fat fuck.
i agree with glock.. rafa should be gone!!!
bring in someone like laudrup or bilic
[/quote]
Another idiot! Hardly proven league managers are they?
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36631.msg968494#msg968494 date=1256192104]
keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
[/quote]
6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
[/quote]
There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
[/quote]
how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
[/quote]
Oh dear!
Its not all about the money you baloonhead!!
Wenger has won titles and built two great teams at Arsenal with this set to be his 3rd great team. Agreed he's 2 players short. A top class keeper and a dominant DM. But he's earned to right to let this team grow and mature.
Arsenal, like Liverpool, aren't on the Chelski/ Citeh / Manure level of finance, but would you ever say that winning the title was no longer a realistic aim for your club? And if the general feeling was that Arsenal could no longer compete, what would that mean for Wenger's future??
Wenger has probably made Arsenal more than he's spend in his time. And i'd say its probably a lot more. He's proven you don't need to be handed vast amounts to spend when you buy the right players.
And don't give me shit about the time Wenger took to win his first title.
[/quote]
since chelsea and manu have spent big what exactly have arsenal won?
[/quote]
So you're saying we should hope Manure, Citeh and Chelsea now stop spending for us to be equal on financial terms to win the league?
Has Wenger come out and say he has not enough money to try and compete with Manure and Chelsea?? Fucking hell!
[/quote]
Its funny how blind some people are. 12 games into the season and we have lost 6 of them, its fucking pathetic and should not be happening to our club.
Rafa is at fault and people need to stop trying to cover his ass. He picks the team we go out and play with and his teams have been fucking shit! he picks the players that we sign and although he has signed some great players like torres, agger, mascher etc he has signed more SHIT than good. wtf is lucas still doing at our club? why is that ponytailed faggot voronin at our club? the greek? degen... rafa is fucking over-rated and his true colours are coming out.
sack the cunt and bring in a coach that doesnt play defensively or leave his substitutions til the 85th minute and take off attacking players for defensive players.
ill use the lyon game as an example. benayoun was one of our better players on the night and instead of making a sub after they scored he waited til there was 5minutes left and instead of taking off lucas who is just a passenger in every game he plays... he takes off benayoun for voronin. He leaves babel on the bench and then babel cops all the stick for being shit. well maybe if our manager believed in him and had some confidence in him, we might see a star player. Id put my life on it that if babel was at a team like arsenal, he would be 1 of the best players in the world atm but no benitez is just a fat fuck.
i agree with glock.. rafa should be gone!!!
bring in someone like laudrup or bilic
[/quote]
Another idiot! Hardly proven league managers are they?
That is really infuriating ...
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36631.msg968494#msg968494 date=1256192104]
keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
[/quote]
6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
[/quote]
There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
[/quote]
how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
[/quote]
Oh dear!
Its not all about the money you baloonhead!!
Wenger has won titles and built two great teams at Arsenal with this set to be his 3rd great team. Agreed he's 2 players short. A top class keeper and a dominant DM. But he's earned to right to let this team grow and mature.
Arsenal, like Liverpool, aren't on the Chelski/ Citeh / Manure level of finance, but would you ever say that winning the title was no longer a realistic aim for your club? And if the general feeling was that Arsenal could no longer compete, what would that mean for Wenger's future??
Wenger has probably made Arsenal more than he's spend in his time. And i'd say its probably a lot more. He's proven you don't need to be handed vast amounts to spend when you buy the right players.
And don't give me shit about the time Wenger took to win his first title.
[/quote]
since chelsea and manu have spent big what exactly have arsenal won?
[/quote]
So you're saying we should hope Manure, Citeh and Chelsea now stop spending for us to be equal on financial terms to win the league?
Has Wenger come out and say he has not enough money to try and compete with Manure and Chelsea?? Fucking hell!
[/quote]
Its funny how blind some people are. 12 games into the season and we have lost 6 of them, its fucking pathetic and should not be happening to our club.
Rafa is at fault and people need to stop trying to cover his ass. He picks the team we go out and play with and his teams have been fucking shit! he picks the players that we sign and although he has signed some great players like torres, agger, mascher etc he has signed more SHIT than good. wtf is lucas still doing at our club? why is that ponytailed faggot voronin at our club? the greek? degen... rafa is fucking over-rated and his true colours are coming out.
sack the cunt and bring in a coach that doesnt play defensively or leave his substitutions til the 85th minute and take off attacking players for defensive players.
ill use the lyon game as an example. benayoun was one of our better players on the night and instead of making a sub after they scored he waited til there was 5minutes left and instead of taking off lucas who is just a passenger in every game he plays... he takes off benayoun for voronin. He leaves babel on the bench and then babel cops all the stick for being shit. well maybe if our manager believed in him and had some confidence in him, we might see a star player. Id put my life on it that if babel was at a team like arsenal, he would be 1 of the best players in the world atm but no benitez is just a fat fuck.
i agree with glock.. rafa should be gone!!!
bring in someone like laudrup or bilic
[/quote]
Another idiot! Hardly proven league managers are they?
[/quote]
what we need is clearly something new because we are starting to go backwards..
laudrup, bilic are good coaches... benitez wasnt that special when he first came to us either.
or even bring in mourinho who i think is one of the best coaches in the world if not the best.
6 losses in 12 is pathetic
4losses in the league already compared to 2 losses in 38games last season..
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36631.msg968494#msg968494 date=1256192104]
keeping/binning a manager 9 games into the season based the outcome of a single game makes complete sense
[/quote]It wouldnt be based on one game would it? It would be based on 9 games.
[/quote]
Would be based on 6 fucking years more like.
[/quote]
6 years
CL
FAC
CL final
CC final
CL qualification every year
CL 2nd stage every year
conisidering chelsea have spent more money (and they have) and considering the experience of manu I think rafa has done well, dare I say overachieved with a 2nd place finish.
[/quote]
There are plenty of managers that could take this team and with NO MONEY make a couple of moves and make it a title winning team.
Rafa is just not good enough to do it.
Over-achieved with 2nd place?? ??
I'm sure Mourinho would fucking laugh and spit on Rafael's face if Rafael said that to him.
[/quote]
how much money did jose spend to achieve the league (ignoring the fact the man before him spent a fortune as well). don't make out jose won the league on a shoe string.
[/quote]
Oh dear!
Its not all about the money you baloonhead!!
Wenger has won titles and built two great teams at Arsenal with this set to be his 3rd great team. Agreed he's 2 players short. A top class keeper and a dominant DM. But he's earned to right to let this team grow and mature.
Arsenal, like Liverpool, aren't on the Chelski/ Citeh / Manure level of finance, but would you ever say that winning the title was no longer a realistic aim for your club? And if the general feeling was that Arsenal could no longer compete, what would that mean for Wenger's future??
Wenger has probably made Arsenal more than he's spend in his time. And i'd say its probably a lot more. He's proven you don't need to be handed vast amounts to spend when you buy the right players.
And don't give me shit about the time Wenger took to win his first title.
[/quote]
since chelsea and manu have spent big what exactly have arsenal won?
[/quote]
So you're saying we should hope Manure, Citeh and Chelsea now stop spending for us to be equal on financial terms to win the league?
Has Wenger come out and say he has not enough money to try and compete with Manure and Chelsea?? Fucking hell!
[/quote]
Its funny how blind some people are. 12 games into the season and we have lost 6 of them, its fucking pathetic and should not be happening to our club.
Rafa is at fault and people need to stop trying to cover his ass. He picks the team we go out and play with and his teams have been fucking shit! he picks the players that we sign and although he has signed some great players like torres, agger, mascher etc he has signed more SHIT than good. wtf is lucas still doing at our club? why is that ponytailed faggot voronin at our club? the greek? degen... rafa is fucking over-rated and his true colours are coming out.
sack the cunt and bring in a coach that doesnt play defensively or leave his substitutions til the 85th minute and take off attacking players for defensive players.
ill use the lyon game as an example. benayoun was one of our better players on the night and instead of making a sub after they scored he waited til there was 5minutes left and instead of taking off lucas who is just a passenger in every game he plays... he takes off benayoun for voronin. He leaves babel on the bench and then babel cops all the stick for being shit. well maybe if our manager believed in him and had some confidence in him, we might see a star player. Id put my life on it that if babel was at a team like arsenal, he would be 1 of the best players in the world atm but no benitez is just a fat fuck.
i agree with glock.. rafa should be gone!!!
bring in someone like laudrup or bilic
[/quote]
Another idiot! Hardly proven league managers are they?
[/quote]
what we need is clearly something new because we are starting to go backwards..
laudrup, bilic are good coaches... benitez wasnt that special when he first came to us either.
or even bring in mourinho who i think is one of the best coaches in the world if not the best.
6 losses in 12 is pathetic
4losses in the league already compared to 2 losses in 38games last season..
Rafa was a damn sight more proven than they are at this moment in time. Yeah Bilic did well for Croatia, but they have gone backwards. As for Laudrup, who's he managed? Getafe? Yes, the number of defeats is not good, but as we are seeing, the big 4 are dropping points this season. Look at chelsea, lost to both Wigan and Villa already, United at home to Sunderland and away to Burnley. Granted we have lost a few more and aren't playing that well, but if we win at the weekend we'll still be close with the leaders. Plus I reckon the likes of Villa, Spurs, Man City and even Sunderland will eventually start to fall by the way side when it comes to the business end of the season.
Laudrop or Bilic? Fucking hell! Is Souness available too?
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Its funny how blind some people are. 12 games into the season and we have lost 6 of them, its fucking pathetic and should not be happening to our club.
Rafa is at fault and people need to stop trying to cover his ass. He picks the team we go out and play with and his teams have been fucking shit! he picks the players that we sign and although he has signed some great players like torres, agger, mascher etc he has signed more SHIT than good. wtf is lucas still doing at our club? why is that ponytailed faggot voronin at our club? the greek? degen... rafa is fucking over-rated and his true colours are coming out.
sack the cunt and bring in a coach that doesnt play defensively or leave his substitutions til the 85th minute and take off attacking players for defensive players.
ill use the lyon game as an example. benayoun was one of our better players on the night and instead of making a sub after they scored he waited til there was 5minutes left and instead of taking off lucas who is just a passenger in every game he plays... he takes off benayoun for voronin. He leaves babel on the bench and then babel cops all the stick for being shit. well maybe if our manager believed in him and had some confidence in him, we might see a star player. Id put my life on it that if babel was at a team like arsenal, he would be 1 of the best players in the world atm but no benitez is just a fat fuck.
i agree with glock.. rafa should be gone!!!
bring in someone like laudrup or bilic
[\quote]
That's one of the most god awful posts you'll read in a long time.
And that's saying something in a thread populated by (Gl)cock and his fabulous internet persona.
It's hard to take the "Rafa out" argument seriously given it's most vocal supporters are Rage/Zlatan/(Gl)cock.
Its funny how blind some people are. 12 games into the season and we have lost 6 of them, its fucking pathetic and should not be happening to our club.
Rafa is at fault and people need to stop trying to cover his ass. He picks the team we go out and play with and his teams have been fucking shit! he picks the players that we sign and although he has signed some great players like torres, agger, mascher etc he has signed more SHIT than good. wtf is lucas still doing at our club? why is that ponytailed faggot voronin at our club? the greek? degen... rafa is fucking over-rated and his true colours are coming out.
sack the cunt and bring in a coach that doesnt play defensively or leave his substitutions til the 85th minute and take off attacking players for defensive players.
ill use the lyon game as an example. benayoun was one of our better players on the night and instead of making a sub after they scored he waited til there was 5minutes left and instead of taking off lucas who is just a passenger in every game he plays... he takes off benayoun for voronin. He leaves babel on the bench and then babel cops all the stick for being shit. well maybe if our manager believed in him and had some confidence in him, we might see a star player. Id put my life on it that if babel was at a team like arsenal, he would be 1 of the best players in the world atm but no benitez is just a fat fuck.
i agree with glock.. rafa should be gone!!!
bring in someone like laudrup or bilic
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That's one of the most god awful posts you'll read in a long time.
And that's saying something in a thread populated by (Gl)cock and his fabulous internet persona.
It's hard to take the "Rafa out" argument seriously given it's most vocal supporters are Rage/Zlatan/(Gl)cock.
Whilst I don't agree totally with Glock on here he does raise some points worth considering and is able to back them up.
I still don't agree that we should be getting rid of Benitez now as I can't see how that will help matters in the short term. He will turn things around to a degree definately and I think he deserves the chance to do so. The question is what exactly does he have to achieve this season to keep his job in the summer?
I still don't agree that we should be getting rid of Benitez now as I can't see how that will help matters in the short term. He will turn things around to a degree definately and I think he deserves the chance to do so. The question is what exactly does he have to achieve this season to keep his job in the summer?
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Whilst I don't agree totally with Glock on here he does raise some points worth considering and is able to back them up.
I still don't agree that we should be getting rid of Benitez now as I can't see how that will help matters in the short term. He will turn things around to a degree definately and I think he deserves the chance to do so. The question is what exactly does he have to achieve this season to keep his job in the summer?
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Top 4 finish. Nothing else.
Whilst I don't agree totally with Glock on here he does raise some points worth considering and is able to back them up.
I still don't agree that we should be getting rid of Benitez now as I can't see how that will help matters in the short term. He will turn things around to a degree definately and I think he deserves the chance to do so. The question is what exactly does he have to achieve this season to keep his job in the summer?
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Top 4 finish. Nothing else.
[quote author=Richey link=topic=36631.msg968598#msg968598 date=1256201682]
Whilst I don't agree totally with Glock on here he does raise some points worth considering and is able to back them up.
I still don't agree that we should be getting rid of Benitez now as I can't see how that will help matters in the short term. He will turn things around to a degree definately and I think he deserves the chance to do so. The question is what exactly does he have to achieve this season to keep his job in the summer?
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You'd have to say even a domestic cup wouldn't appease most, if we fall short of second and a reasonable challenge.
The Champions League might do it, but you'd have to say in our current state that going all the way in the CL could be too much for this squad and would have a knock on effect on our league status.
Whilst I don't agree totally with Glock on here he does raise some points worth considering and is able to back them up.
I still don't agree that we should be getting rid of Benitez now as I can't see how that will help matters in the short term. He will turn things around to a degree definately and I think he deserves the chance to do so. The question is what exactly does he have to achieve this season to keep his job in the summer?
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You'd have to say even a domestic cup wouldn't appease most, if we fall short of second and a reasonable challenge.
The Champions League might do it, but you'd have to say in our current state that going all the way in the CL could be too much for this squad and would have a knock on effect on our league status.
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[quote author=Richey link=topic=36631.msg968598#msg968598 date=1256201682]
Whilst I don't agree totally with Glock on here he does raise some points worth considering and is able to back them up.
I still don't agree that we should be getting rid of Benitez now as I can't see how that will help matters in the short term. He will turn things around to a degree definately and I think he deserves the chance to do so. The question is what exactly does he have to achieve this season to keep his job in the summer?
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Top 4 finish. Nothing else.
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Would a top 4 finish be enough really? Houllier got that in his last season and still got the sack.
[quote author=Richey link=topic=36631.msg968598#msg968598 date=1256201682]
Whilst I don't agree totally with Glock on here he does raise some points worth considering and is able to back them up.
I still don't agree that we should be getting rid of Benitez now as I can't see how that will help matters in the short term. He will turn things around to a degree definately and I think he deserves the chance to do so. The question is what exactly does he have to achieve this season to keep his job in the summer?
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Top 4 finish. Nothing else.
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Would a top 4 finish be enough really? Houllier got that in his last season and still got the sack.
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