The not so Official January Transfer Rumour Thread

[Oncy]

I dont think these owners could have done any more.
They fucked off Hodgepodge and put the fans choice in. It didnt work so they chose their own young manager and have backed both the recent incumbants to the tune of £150 odd million in 2 and a half years.
Its not their fault Dalglish and Mr Rodgers couldnt spot talent in a fucking lappies.

 

[Oncy]

That Forren dude has turned down the chance to trial with us, and is signing for Southampton for 4M.

Thats fine. Blatter says we have too many Forreners in our league already.

 

[Oncy]

Eriksen would be an instant hit with the Anfield crowd mate. As many also predicted with regards to Allen, so there you go.

The reason why I believe Eriksen would achieve this (not saying Allen isn't going to mind) is mainly because of his attitude, his willingness to learn and his commitment.

When you add to this his Iniesta-like touch, his eye for his teammates and his skill on the ball you've got real player on your hands.

Despite being a number 10 on the pitch he's not shy from running that extra yard to help the team. In fact quite the opposite which his distance covered stats in the Champions League group stage underlined. He ran more than anyone else in the tournament.

Weaknesses
He's not the biggest lad on the pitch which could prove a challenge. He has recently bulked up a bit but would probably need to hit the gym still but as he's quite agile and atheltic he doesn't need to be that strong.

When being man marked (especially by Khedira at both International and Champions League level) he has struggled to make an impact as he's got to get used to the attention and focus on him when playing even the best. He certainly struggled during the Euros as well, which also could have something to do with the fact he was 19 at the time and had played 60 games that Season already. He was simply tired and not 100 percent.

Goals. He doesn't score quite enough but is getting there. He's got quite a decent shot on him with both feet actually, and I believe it's only a matter of time before he's going to hit the net a lot more than what he's been doing so far. He likes to set up teammates though and that'll never change. Leading the assist table in ChL as well I believe.

At the end of the day Christian Eriksen is a major talent with every chance of becoming one of the best players in the world. We'd be very lucky to get our hands on him.

He looks shit whenever i see him play.

 

[the_khl]

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osv3xjzkoV0&list=PL49A959F49E6604F3&index=24

 

[LeTallecWiz]

I would hope we have a chance for him ... he'd be the perfect player to play off Suarez, STurridge or Borini ...

 

[Oncy]

Im never watching another player youtube clip again KHL.

 

[the_khl]

His latest goal:


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JlGhHBIy-o

 

[Ryan]

Is khl talking about Eriksen again?

Never have I wanted one player to fail more. Seriously mate - shut the fuck up about him.

 

[the_khl]

Im never watching another player youtube clip again KHL.

Not going to blame you I guess, and if you've only seen him during the Euros I can even understand why you believe he's rather shit.

You'd be in for a treat though, don't you worry!

 

[the_khl]

Is khl talking about Eriksen again?

Never have I wanted one player to fail more. Seriously mate - shut the fuck up about him.

No.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I dont think these owners could have done any more.
They fucked off Hodgepodge and put the fans choice in. It didnt work so they chose their own young manager and have backed both the recent incumbants to the tune of £150 odd million in 2 and a half years.
Its not their fault Dalglish and Mr Rodgers couldnt spot talent in a fucking lappies.

They couldn't have done more but they've appointed two managers who can't spot talent and have spunked millions away. Maybe they could have done more to appoint a manager who can spot talent and spend wisely?

 

[jan]

Eriksen would be an instant hit with the Anfield crowd mate. As many also predicted with regards to Allen, so there you go.

The reason why I believe Eriksen would achieve this (not saying Allen isn't going to mind) is mainly because of his attitude, his willingness to learn and his commitment.

When you add to this his Iniesta-like touch, his eye for his teammates and his skill on the ball you've got real player on your hands.

Despite being a number 10 on the pitch he's not shy from running that extra yard to help the team. In fact quite the opposite which his distance covered stats in the Champions League group stage underlined. He ran more than anyone else in the tournament he is from Denmark.

FIXED

 

[StevieM]

What the fuck is this rumor that we're in a bidding war with Utd for Victor Valdes.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

What the fuck is this rumor that we're in a bidding war with Utd for Victor Valdes.

Let's get in a bidding war but not buy - they can have him for 30 million.

 

[Judge Jules]

I have no agenda. I'm far too old to be caring what other people think about my opinion, I'm merely concerned.
I meant the owners, after their experience with us and the Sox over the past two years, will never again sanction the kind of spending that saw us buy Carroll et al. We have spent poorly admittedly, but crucially we have been run poorly for too long. And I do not believe Henderson or Downing are dross, but they have no one giving them belief. There are plenty of mangers out there who would have them playing like world-beaters.
What we need is someone to run the football club correctly on behalf of the owners, not Ayre, and a manager who can handle the job. Sadly, I don't believe we are likely to get either. Rodgers seems like a decent guy but under his reign we will continue to be told that we are a work in progress as we fail to beat any of the top 6 teams.
We are not a training ground for young managers to learn the ropes, we are Liverpool, and as long as supporters start believing we are not good enough, and the players as they did in the first half on Sunday do the same we have no chance.
Apologies if you think that is an agenda, it isn't. All I know is we have a manager who is not even 40, with very little experience who is not motivating the team to achieve what they can achieve.

That's one version, and a very slanted one. Another version is that we have a manager who, despite his age, has been coaching for 20 years, has earned the respect of major figures (Jose Mourinho, Vicente del Bosque) in Spanish football in the process, has managed - successfully - in the Prem already, had a fractured and lopsided squad to work with when he arrived and is now bringing Henderson and Downing (neither of whom were his signings) up to speed. Sorry but an outlook like yours would never have let Shanks in through the door.

 

[gkmacca]

Oh come on, JJ, put the Shanks comparison to bed. Where was the club when he was hired? It was in the second division and hopelessly drift. Arsenal weren't interested in him, the mancs weren't interested in him. Come on.

 

[Judge Jules]

With respect, macca, I don't think that's relevant. My point, by which I stand, is that the kind of arguments currently being deployed against Rodgers would have applied equally to Shanks' appointment. FWIW if we had to let Kenny go, which wasn't what I wanted, I'd have been happier to see a more experienced manager given the job. That doesn't change the fact that a fair bit of the criticism being levelled at the appointment of Rodgers is in my view misconceived.

 

[the_khl]

Please gents, this thread is all about a very dodgy rumour that we're about to buy Christian Eriksen come Summer.

Ryan will confirm this shortly.

 

[gkmacca]

With respect, macca, I don't think that's relevant. My point, by which I stand, is that the kind of arguments currently being deployed against Rodgers would have applied equally to Shanks' appointment. FWIW if we had to let Kenny go, which wasn't what I wanted, I'd have been happier to see a more experienced manager given the job. That doesn't change the fact that a fair bit of the criticism being levelled at the appointment of Rodgers is in my view misconceived.

I don't see it. Shanks being hired by LFC in those days was like someone with a similar track record being hired by Notts Forest today. I don't see what relevance that has for a side today that still purports, or at least sells itself, as a 'top' side.

 

[Judge Jules]

You're still focusing on the clubs whereas Sean's criticism was focused on the man, and that was what I was countering. Shanks was at least as inexperienced in management as Rodgers is sometimes accused of being today. I might add that the kind of job facing Shanks, with lesser players than Rodgers has had to work with, could well be said to put experience at an even greater premium.

 

[mark1975]

Let's face it, Rodgers was onto a hiding for nothing from the off.

He's made mistakes, none particularly worse than his last few predecessors, but he's younger, in his first big job and with it all to do. Patience was always going to be needed and a fair amount of indulgence, not posters/fans dissecting every comment he makes and taking stuff out of context and completely lacking any sort of perspective over the job we have on our hands.

We've made strides in some areas, we're certainly easier on the eye in an attacking sense, but our usually reliable defensive foundations have gone to pot.

Let him bring in a couple of players in the areas where we know we critically need it and then judge the guy. It makes me laugh the way people are blasting the owners one minute for not backing us (which is absolute bollocks) and then laying into the manager for not turning us into a CL contender over night.

IT TAKES TIME. It might be taking a bit longer than expected for us to find consistency, but we're only half way through his first season. See how the rest of the season goes, let him spend in the Summer and then take it from there. Just quit with the constant needless gloating about how much of a failure he is, because he isn't Kenny, or he's not the standard of manager that a side with big aspirations should have attracted. He's our manager, for now at least, give him a fucking reasonable go at it.

 

[RolandG]

The problem with Liverpool as it stands is largely down to the lack of:

• a long term-vision and planning
• coupled with a lack of managerial continuity and
• unsustainable spending in the transfer market.

The appointment of Rodgers will hopefully address the first 2 points. Consequently the previous splurge in the market on anything but worldclass talent (with the exception of Suarez) was a learning experience for the owners and its unlikely to happen again. Rodgers is mandated to develop young players and we have plenty of top notch talent coming through. That he doesnt appear to know his strongest team and doesnt help either. As a result of this, we have been erratic.

With each managerial appointment, its been back to the drawing board. The last 2 transfer windows should have been an opportunity to buy first team players to come straight into the team and help us secure CL football. That has not happened and the players brought in haven't lived up to their supposed "top" billing. Buying British has cost us excessively. Carroll, Downing, Henderson and Allen haven't lit up Anfield. They have shown improvement this season but with them in the team, we ain't gonna pull up trees.

While we need a bigger squad, we need more quality and creativity in the starting XI.

 

[gkmacca]

Let's face it, Rodgers was onto a hiding for nothing from the off.

He's made mistakes, none particularly worse than his last few predecessors, but he's younger, in his first big job and with it all to do. Patience was always going to be needed and a fair amount of indulgence, not posters/fans dissecting every comment he makes and taking stuff out of context and completely lacking any sort of perspective over the job we have on our hands.

We've made strides in some areas, we're certainly easier on the eye in an attacking sense, but our usually reliable defensive foundations have gone to pot.

Let him bring in a couple of players in the areas where we know we critically need it and then judge the guy. It makes me laugh the way people are blasting the owners one minute for not backing us (which is absolute bollocks) and then laying into the manager for not turning us into a CL contender over night.

IT TAKES TIME. It might be taking a bit longer than expected for us to find consistency, but we're only half way through his first season. See how the rest of the season goes, let him spend in the Summer and then take it from there. Just quit with the constant needless gloating about how much of a failure he is, because he isn't Kenny, or he's not the standard of manager that a side with big aspirations should have attracted. He's our manager, for now at least, give him a fucking reasonable go at it.

No one who loves the club 'gloats'. Who do you mean? Why can't alternative opinions be tolerated without this kind of spin or this bizarre need to redescribe arguments, give them pop psychology roots and then dismiss them smugly. Hodgson wasn't given time or patience or trust. Was that gloating? Was that a whole mass of personal agenda? I don't think the hectoring is needed. It's an easy enough trick to start misattributing motives to the pro side of the debate, I can start now if you like, but I don't like it and I'm sad others do.

 

[peterhague]

It's early days but I think Rodgers has got off lightly so far. We've had very few really good performances, little sign of this great football we were promised, a completely toothless attack, a piss poor midfield, rather unimaginative signings, and the summer transfer window was a monumental cock up which he deserves way more blame for than he's got.

'Progress' has been grindingly slow. He's really got to do better than this.

 

[mark1975]

No one wholoves the club 'gloats'. Who do you mean? Why can't alternative opinions be tolerated without this kind of spin. Hodgson wasn't given time or patience or trust. Was that gloating? Was that a whole mass of personal agenda? I don't think the hectoring is needed.

I was one of few who stood by until the death over Hodgson, every manager deserves time, but I guess with him there were no signs of promise or progress, I don't feel that way with Rodgers - perhaps that's clouded a bit by the necessity for us to rely on youngsters (which in turn prompts more patience), but anyway.

We've been here before Macca, if gloating is the wrong description then fair enough. Some posters, yourself included, have more or less admitted to not liking him from the off, so you can see why others have a problem with where the majority of the criticism is coming from, it seems agenda driven. And for the record, it's not like I or JJ have never criticised the guy, we do it regularly, I don't know why you're taking stock of comparisons, it's justifiable to say that he's in a similar boat to a past manager who himself had it all to do, you can argue about where the respect sides were/are, but the point stands that bringing in a young inexperienced but promising manager can pay off with the right level of backing and patience. I don't think anyone is saying every case is the same, we could invest years in him and get nowhere, but then we've done that with far more cultured and experienced managers too, whom many people thought would be our saviours. It's never a given with anyone, all we can do is persevere and put our faith in what we have, until we either turn that elusive corner, or the next poor bastard wipes the slate clean.

 

[mark1975]

It's early days but I think Rodgers has got off lightly so far. We've had very few really good performances, little sign of this great football we were promised, a completely toothless attack, a piss poor midfield, rather unimaginative signings, and the summer transfer window was a monumental cock up which he deserves way more blame for than he's got.

'Progress' has been grindingly slow. He's really got to do better than this.

'Progress' in most managers first seasons, certainly as far as we are concerned over the last two decades, is invariably slow. Houllier took time and had been bedded in with the disastrous joint manager role, Rafa had a poor domestic campaign in his first season, it was certainly not one that was progressive in that sense.

Rodgers hasn't pulled up trees yet but he deserves time to get it right.

 

[gkmacca]

I was one of few who stood by until the death over Hodgson, every manager deserves time, but I guess with him there were no signs of promise or progress, I don't feel that way with Rodgers - perhaps that's clouded a bit by the necessity for us to rely on youngsters (which in turn prompts more patience), but anyway.

We've been here before Macca, if gloating is the wrong description then fair enough. Some posters, yourself included, have more or less admitted to not liking him from the off, .

I certainly did not dislike him from the off. Another myth. Let's end this self-serving compulsion to satisfy oneself that any alternative view is unacceptable because it's irrational. There's reason there. If you disagree, fine, but end the re-writing.

 

[Judge Jules]

I'm not sure how Rodgers deserves more blame for the summer striker fiasco. Surely he has to rely on what he's told by the owners. If the owners had originally intended to let the Dempsey deal go through but baulked at the price, that too will have been down to others.

 

[mark1975]

I certainly did not dislike him from the off. Another myth. Let's end this self-serving compulsion to satisfy oneself that any alternative view is unacceptable because it's irrational. There's reason there. If you disagree, fine, but end the re-writing.

Heh, you said you don't like the guy a few months back and that you're not going to pretend to like him. 'From the off' maybe not, but you certainly made your mind up quickly.

Like you say though, we've done this and it's one of very few things (I think!?) that we don't see eye to eye on. Ahh well, lets just hope we turn it around as a club.

 

[mark1975]

I'm not sure how Rodgers deserves more blame for the summer striker fiasco. Surely he has to rely on what he's told by the owners. If the owners had originally intended to let the Dempsey deal go through but baulked at the price, that too will have been down to others.

Rodgers baulked at the asking price for Sturridge too, he wanted him on loan initially but said no to Chelsea's demands. Apparently that's saved us about £5m waiting til now, but it's still cost us.