The NBA thread - 2010/11
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That's probably the best they've played all season.
Plain clothes policemen were stationed everywhere throughout the crowd last night - Apparently, one 5'8" bloke tried to rush the court when LeBron tossed the talc, but security stopped him. What was he going to do when he got there, and came face-to-chest with 6'8", 245lbs of solid muscle? They should have let him go...
Plain clothes policemen were stationed everywhere throughout the crowd last night - Apparently, one 5'8" bloke tried to rush the court when LeBron tossed the talc, but security stopped him. What was he going to do when he got there, and came face-to-chest with 6'8", 245lbs of solid muscle? They should have let him go...
how about dem Mavericks? Best team in the NBA right now ... let's hope it lasts!!!
Mavs are looking great ... Dirk is getting better with age, his shooting % is ridiculous ...
as for latest rumors, well just facts:
as for latest rumors, well just facts:
Mavs do look great at the moment, mate - Dirk's playing as good as ever.
The Spurs, Heat and Celtics are also playing some great ball right now, too... I'm quietly excited about Boston this year. Shaq and Jermaine give us something we didn't have in the paint last season, and KG is back - I mean really, REALLY back.
The Spurs, Heat and Celtics are also playing some great ball right now, too... I'm quietly excited about Boston this year. Shaq and Jermaine give us something we didn't have in the paint last season, and KG is back - I mean really, REALLY back.
I don't think KG will ever be 'back' like his younger days - I still remember him hitting 40 as a teenager. But he's playing his best ball in years, and with 'paint protection' from Arnold & DeVito, the Celts will be a tough tough match for anyone in the playoffs. Ray Allen has also been good and Rondo is fucking unbelievable right now. I mean, Stockton'esque with the dishes.
you gotta feel bad for MSG though - they actually thought that was in when it was quite clear it wasn't ...
Kyrie Irving out for Duke with no timetable on his return. Which is shit as he was averaging almost 18 points a game. One of the best freshers in the nation. I thought he'd just bruised his toe, but obviously not. They're saying he might miss all their ACC games. Still, wonder if it'll make him firmer on remaining next year to play with Austin Rivers. I want to see that.
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Kyrie Irving out for Duke with no timetable on his return. Which is shit as he was averaging almost 18 points a game. One of the best freshers in the nation. I thought he'd just bruised his toe, but obviously not. They're saying he might miss all their ACC games. Still, wonder if it'll make him firmer on remaining next year to play with Austin Rivers. I want to see that.
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I've heard a bit about this Irving kid but as yet havent had a chance to see him play. Is he really that good? I think he will be ruled out of the draft as well due to this injury.
Kyrie Irving out for Duke with no timetable on his return. Which is shit as he was averaging almost 18 points a game. One of the best freshers in the nation. I thought he'd just bruised his toe, but obviously not. They're saying he might miss all their ACC games. Still, wonder if it'll make him firmer on remaining next year to play with Austin Rivers. I want to see that.
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I've heard a bit about this Irving kid but as yet havent had a chance to see him play. Is he really that good? I think he will be ruled out of the draft as well due to this injury.
Hard to say. He only got to play a few games, but he was running that Duke team, and they're the best team in college ball right now. Real shame he'll miss the season. He has incredibly ball skills and reads play well. A lot of college stars dominate due to size, but he looks the real deal. If he isn't in the draft next year then Harrison Barnes should go number one. I have heard great things baout this Perry Jones kid at Baylor, but have only seen clips so far. Looks a talent though.
I'm liking Terrence Jones at Kentucky too. Jared Sullinger is bashing teams brains out for Ohio State, but he's a beast - almost seven foot - 280lbs, so he is dominating college ball. Not so sure about him as a pro prospect though.
I'm liking Terrence Jones at Kentucky too. Jared Sullinger is bashing teams brains out for Ohio State, but he's a beast - almost seven foot - 280lbs, so he is dominating college ball. Not so sure about him as a pro prospect though.
gotta feel for Yao Ming ... another year, another season ending injury.
Could be career ending at this point, certainly as far as the NBA goes. Wasn't he making noises about going home if he missed another season?
You've got a great eye for talent MC Golgotha. Draftexpress has Irving-Jones-Barnes 1-2-3 in their mock draft. Jones and Sullinger are in the top 10 too. We'll always see at least 3-4 big men in the top ten, regardless of their ability, c.f. Thabeet (What a flop that was though). NBA teams just love their big men.
What do you think of Plumlee, Singler and Smith at Duke though? It's surprising that Duke is the best team in NCAA, but their players are seldom drafted high.
What do you think of Plumlee, Singler and Smith at Duke though? It's surprising that Duke is the best team in NCAA, but their players are seldom drafted high.
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Must be a Cubs fan then 😉
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Must be a Cubs fan then 😉
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ha ha touche
Must be a Cubs fan then 😉
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ha ha touche
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You've got a great eye for talent MC Golgotha. Draftexpress has Irving-Jones-Barnes 1-2-3 in their mock draft. Jones and Sullinger are in the top 10 too. We'll always see at least 3-4 big men in the top ten, regardless of their ability, c.f. Thabeet (What a flop that was though). NBA teams just love their big men.
What do you think of Plumlee, Singler and Smith at Duke though? It's surprising that Duke is the best team in NCAA, but their players are seldom drafted high.
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Duke are such a well coached and well drilled unit, and their talent pool is so deep, that individual players often get overrated. Not many college teams can boast the bench they have year after year, but with success people naturally assume it is individual players that drive it. So you get Randolph situations. Just playing for them can boost your draft position by several rounds.
Also, recently a lot of the elite NBA players never went to college at all. Basketball is a sport you can play at the highest level much earlier than American football, and you look at the players that never played NCAA - Bryant, LeBron, KG, Stoudemire etc - and wonder whether success at college level doesn't make players complacent. Obviously they have to play one year now (which is a ridiculous situation - why bother when any discipline re going on academic safari is meaningless as they're one-and-out?), so you might see more Duke players being successful pros in the next decade (more high school stars who would have gone pro out of high school, like Irving and Rivers, are likely to pick Duke simply because they are the biggest name right now).
Football can be the same. You can look down the list of Heisman winners and ask legitimate questions about whether it means anything in terms of being a pro-prospect. In the last ten years only Carson Palmer and Reggie Bush have had any measure of success in the NFL, and Carson Palmer looks a shadow of himself right now (I still think there's a player in there though - he just needs to move city). Bradford obviously looks like he is going to be a bit special, but even counting him you're looking at less than a third of the "best college players of the year" making it in the pros.
College teams like to win. And winning college basketball or college football is a vastly different proposition to winning pro basketball or pro football. Some football positions lend themselves to either environment (linesmen, and defensive players generally), but quarterbacks and more or less any basketball position can be a lottery.
Plumee will see more court time this year, and if Duke do well again (if...when) he'll get hyped out of proportion. He has the physique and he looks like he's getting better. He was highly rated in the ACC last year without actually playing that well I thought. But like I said, he had to deal with the likes of Thomas and Zoubek playing in front of him. As a pro I don't know about Singler. He is a great player for Duke, but I don't know if he'd have the production in the pros. Will probably be drafted higher than he should be.
But then, what the fuck do I know? I watch way more football than basketball (more of a casual basketball viewer, and more NCAA than NBA), and I thought Clausen would be a better pro than Colt McCoy. Way to make me look a cunt, Jimmy.
You've got a great eye for talent MC Golgotha. Draftexpress has Irving-Jones-Barnes 1-2-3 in their mock draft. Jones and Sullinger are in the top 10 too. We'll always see at least 3-4 big men in the top ten, regardless of their ability, c.f. Thabeet (What a flop that was though). NBA teams just love their big men.
What do you think of Plumlee, Singler and Smith at Duke though? It's surprising that Duke is the best team in NCAA, but their players are seldom drafted high.
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Duke are such a well coached and well drilled unit, and their talent pool is so deep, that individual players often get overrated. Not many college teams can boast the bench they have year after year, but with success people naturally assume it is individual players that drive it. So you get Randolph situations. Just playing for them can boost your draft position by several rounds.
Also, recently a lot of the elite NBA players never went to college at all. Basketball is a sport you can play at the highest level much earlier than American football, and you look at the players that never played NCAA - Bryant, LeBron, KG, Stoudemire etc - and wonder whether success at college level doesn't make players complacent. Obviously they have to play one year now (which is a ridiculous situation - why bother when any discipline re going on academic safari is meaningless as they're one-and-out?), so you might see more Duke players being successful pros in the next decade (more high school stars who would have gone pro out of high school, like Irving and Rivers, are likely to pick Duke simply because they are the biggest name right now).
Football can be the same. You can look down the list of Heisman winners and ask legitimate questions about whether it means anything in terms of being a pro-prospect. In the last ten years only Carson Palmer and Reggie Bush have had any measure of success in the NFL, and Carson Palmer looks a shadow of himself right now (I still think there's a player in there though - he just needs to move city). Bradford obviously looks like he is going to be a bit special, but even counting him you're looking at less than a third of the "best college players of the year" making it in the pros.
College teams like to win. And winning college basketball or college football is a vastly different proposition to winning pro basketball or pro football. Some football positions lend themselves to either environment (linesmen, and defensive players generally), but quarterbacks and more or less any basketball position can be a lottery.
Plumee will see more court time this year, and if Duke do well again (if...when) he'll get hyped out of proportion. He has the physique and he looks like he's getting better. He was highly rated in the ACC last year without actually playing that well I thought. But like I said, he had to deal with the likes of Thomas and Zoubek playing in front of him. As a pro I don't know about Singler. He is a great player for Duke, but I don't know if he'd have the production in the pros. Will probably be drafted higher than he should be.
But then, what the fuck do I know? I watch way more football than basketball (more of a casual basketball viewer, and more NCAA than NBA), and I thought Clausen would be a better pro than Colt McCoy. Way to make me look a cunt, Jimmy.
Superman has some fwiends!
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Superman has some fwiends!
Excited! The Suns are now loaded with assets - two legitimate 7 footers, two 2011 first round draft picks, and Carter's huge expiring. I expect them to make a big move - maybe for someone like Josh Smith, or perhaps even Melo.
For the Magic, I think it's slightly stupid. Richardson's going to fit well in there. I'm not so sure about Arenas or Turkoglu - they've regressed considerably over the last 2 years. And they're going to fuck up their chemistry, as they'd both want the ball in their hands.
Superman has some fwiends!
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Excited! The Suns are now loaded with assets - two legitimate 7 footers, two 2011 first round draft picks, and Carter's huge expiring. I expect them to make a big move - maybe for someone like Josh Smith, or perhaps even Melo.
For the Magic, I think it's slightly stupid. Richardson's going to fit well in there. I'm not so sure about Arenas or Turkoglu - they've regressed considerably over the last 2 years. And they're going to fuck up their chemistry, as they'd both want the ball in their hands.
another 'streak buster' win by the Mavs, beating the Heat 98-96 in Miami.
I suppose it makes sense to inexplicably trade for Turkoglu after they inexplicably dumped him a couple of years ago.
Also, if you're going to leave highschool with a stud reputation and go to a big time program like Kansas, then what you really want is a debut where you score 21 points in as many minutes, including a go-head three pointer with twenty seconds on the clock.
Enter, Josh Selby. How the fuck is he going to live up to the hype now?
Also, if you're going to leave highschool with a stud reputation and go to a big time program like Kansas, then what you really want is a debut where you score 21 points in as many minutes, including a go-head three pointer with twenty seconds on the clock.
Enter, Josh Selby. How the fuck is he going to live up to the hype now?
UCONN's women team won their 89th STRAIGHT game yesterday ... Surpassing the John Wooden led UCLA record of 88 (mens).
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/womens-basketball/recap?gid=201012210129
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/womens-basketball/recap?gid=201012210129
Dirk has passed Larry Legend as the NBA's 25th leading scorer of all time ...
Props to Dirk ... Now add a ring to all those personal accolades.
Props to Dirk ... Now add a ring to all those personal accolades.
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UCONN's women team won their 89th STRAIGHT game yesterday ... Surpassing the John Wooden led UCLA record of 88 (mens).
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/womens-basketball/recap?gid=201012210129
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Geno Auriemma is fucking hilarious. Dude should be on TV more often. This streak ends though, it'll be another 600 years before he gets regular interviews.
UCONN's women team won their 89th STRAIGHT game yesterday ... Surpassing the John Wooden led UCLA record of 88 (mens).
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/womens-basketball/recap?gid=201012210129
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Geno Auriemma is fucking hilarious. Dude should be on TV more often. This streak ends though, it'll be another 600 years before he gets regular interviews.
I've not been paying much attention recently, but my Spurs seem to be pretty good.
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Went to the Suns-Lakers game last night. Very enjoyable, Bryant is an absolute freak. Hard to describe how good he actually is.
The Suns are pretty ordinary. 1 or 2 great ball players, and a whole host of junk.
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They should trade Nash and rebuild.
Went to the Suns-Lakers game last night. Very enjoyable, Bryant is an absolute freak. Hard to describe how good he actually is.
The Suns are pretty ordinary. 1 or 2 great ball players, and a whole host of junk.
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They should trade Nash and rebuild.
