The incredible Xabi Alonso thread 2009.
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Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
Gerrard is one of the best players in the world, he'll be good and effective where ever he plays. But the question is where he's at his best: thats further up where he's freed of defensive duties.
Playing Gerrard as part of a central two in a 4231, in such a deep role, is a waste.
P.s. Keep the rumour alive Spidey 😉
Gerrard is one of the best players in the world, he'll be good and effective where ever he plays. But the question is where he's at his best: thats further up where he's freed of defensive duties.
Playing Gerrard as part of a central two in a 4231, in such a deep role, is a waste.
P.s. Keep the rumour alive Spidey 😉
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=keniget link=topic=33578.msg913444#msg913444 date=1248780579]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33578.msg913441#msg913441 date=1248780479]
*someone going to post stats of loads of games here gerrard has started in the center of midfield under rafa.
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I like how you now anticipate being proven wrong, but still don't let it deter you from making sweeping statements.
I like you spidey, but you don't do yourself any favours at times.
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ha ha, fuck it it's only a forum ;D.
I was think that over a period of five years for rafa, even if gerrard played in CM sporadically it would add up but my memory of events was always;
alonso/didi
alonso/momo
alonso/masher
alonso/lucas
masher/lucas
but rarely a combination of any of the above and gerrard, who has played right midfield, left midfield and now has settled on the position of forward.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=33578.msg913444#msg913444 date=1248780579]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33578.msg913441#msg913441 date=1248780479]
*someone going to post stats of loads of games here gerrard has started in the center of midfield under rafa.
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I like how you now anticipate being proven wrong, but still don't let it deter you from making sweeping statements.
I like you spidey, but you don't do yourself any favours at times.
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ha ha, fuck it it's only a forum ;D.
I was think that over a period of five years for rafa, even if gerrard played in CM sporadically it would add up but my memory of events was always;
alonso/didi
alonso/momo
alonso/masher
alonso/lucas
masher/lucas
but rarely a combination of any of the above and gerrard, who has played right midfield, left midfield and now has settled on the position of forward.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33578.msg913405#msg913405 date=1248779337]
I know Stevie is the bestest player in the world, but it does seem that forming a CM partnership with him in it has proven to be difficult in the past.
I hope we keep him where he is now, and buy another player to fill the gap left by Alonso.
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That is the only option I see.
Gerrard has become even more influential in his new position.
Plus, I think it would be easier to get a midfielder that can keep the play ticking over with constant passing than it will be to drop Gerrard back to MF and then get someone outstanding to play and click with Torres.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33578.msg913405#msg913405 date=1248779337]
I know Stevie is the bestest player in the world, but it does seem that forming a CM partnership with him in it has proven to be difficult in the past.
I hope we keep him where he is now, and buy another player to fill the gap left by Alonso.
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That is the only option I see.
Gerrard has become even more influential in his new position.
Plus, I think it would be easier to get a midfielder that can keep the play ticking over with constant passing than it will be to drop Gerrard back to MF and then get someone outstanding to play and click with Torres.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
I have no problem with Gerrard playing in the '2' in a 4-2-3-1 against shite teams parking the bus if we have Bennie or even better a Silva to help unlock the bus in front of him. Otherwise Gerrard should stay where he is.
I have no problem with Gerrard playing in the '2' in a 4-2-3-1 against shite teams parking the bus if we have Bennie or even better a Silva to help unlock the bus in front of him. Otherwise Gerrard should stay where he is.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg912865#msg912865 date=1248704644]
Did I sound like Stu last summer?
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Yeah, pretty much.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg912865#msg912865 date=1248704644]
Did I sound like Stu last summer?
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Yeah, pretty much.
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Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Biggus Dickus link=topic=33578.msg913476#msg913476 date=1248783526]
I have no problem with Gerrard playing in the '2' in a 4-2-3-1 against shite teams parking the bus if we have Bennie or even better a Silva to help unlock the bus in front of him. Otherwise Gerrard should stay where he is.
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Gerrard will never play 'the holding role'.
If he's moved back it will be part of a traditional 4-4-2 alongside Masher.
[quote author=Biggus Dickus link=topic=33578.msg913476#msg913476 date=1248783526]
I have no problem with Gerrard playing in the '2' in a 4-2-3-1 against shite teams parking the bus if we have Bennie or even better a Silva to help unlock the bus in front of him. Otherwise Gerrard should stay where he is.
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Gerrard will never play 'the holding role'.
If he's moved back it will be part of a traditional 4-4-2 alongside Masher.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33578.msg913495#msg913495 date=1248784907]
[quote author=Biggus Dickus link=topic=33578.msg913476#msg913476 date=1248783526]
I have no problem with Gerrard playing in the '2' in a 4-2-3-1 against shite teams parking the bus if we have Bennie or even better a Silva to help unlock the bus in front of him. Otherwise Gerrard should stay where he is.
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Gerrard will never play 'the holding role'.
If he's moved back it will be part of a traditional 4-4-2 alongside Masher.
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Yeah true but my point is the same in that he would sit back further and it would be for the benefit of the team IMO but only in those type of games.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33578.msg913495#msg913495 date=1248784907]
[quote author=Biggus Dickus link=topic=33578.msg913476#msg913476 date=1248783526]
I have no problem with Gerrard playing in the '2' in a 4-2-3-1 against shite teams parking the bus if we have Bennie or even better a Silva to help unlock the bus in front of him. Otherwise Gerrard should stay where he is.
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Gerrard will never play 'the holding role'.
If he's moved back it will be part of a traditional 4-4-2 alongside Masher.
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Yeah true but my point is the same in that he would sit back further and it would be for the benefit of the team IMO but only in those type of games.
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Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
It's my opinion that Gerrard can adapt his game from CM - playing more structured and disciplined against the top four but given a similar licence to roam against the lesser teams we need to break down.
But it's only an option if a top striker becomes available.
It's my opinion that Gerrard can adapt his game from CM - playing more structured and disciplined against the top four but given a similar licence to roam against the lesser teams we need to break down.
But it's only an option if a top striker becomes available.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
if alonso is off does he leave with your best wishes or not?
if alonso is off does he leave with your best wishes or not?
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33578.msg913526#msg913526 date=1248786515]
It's my opinion that Gerrard can adapt his game from CM - playing more structured and disciplined against the top four but given a similar licence to roam against the lesser teams we need to break down.
But it's only an option if a top striker becomes available.
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In theory a player as good as Stevie certainly ought to be able to do what you describe, but Rafa clearly hasn't been convinced that he can in practice. Perhaps our reported interest in Villa suggests Rafa's willing to reconsider if the right striker does come within our reach.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33578.msg913526#msg913526 date=1248786515]
It's my opinion that Gerrard can adapt his game from CM - playing more structured and disciplined against the top four but given a similar licence to roam against the lesser teams we need to break down.
But it's only an option if a top striker becomes available.
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In theory a player as good as Stevie certainly ought to be able to do what you describe, but Rafa clearly hasn't been convinced that he can in practice. Perhaps our reported interest in Villa suggests Rafa's willing to reconsider if the right striker does come within our reach.
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Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
Villa's the sort I had in mind.
I admit the Gerrard-Masher partnership hasn't been as successful as it suggests on paper, but I still think it has all the trademarks of a great combination.
My main worry would be Dirks effectiveness on the right of a 4-4-2 - it doesn't suit him as well as our current system.
Villa's the sort I had in mind.
I admit the Gerrard-Masher partnership hasn't been as successful as it suggests on paper, but I still think it has all the trademarks of a great combination.
My main worry would be Dirks effectiveness on the right of a 4-4-2 - it doesn't suit him as well as our current system.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
i'm not convinced Madrid will pay even if we drop our price. their squad is massive and they can only register 25 players. they just signed Granero who is a crowd favourite (they sing his name) and Marca if it was done would be saying its done but instead they say we have given them a deadline so if they're not sure you can bet it is not done yet. it is up to Perez and whether he will cave in. they have a friendly tonight against some crap opposition so will be interesting to see how they get on. if they smash them Perez will probably think he doesn't need Alonso
i'm not convinced Madrid will pay even if we drop our price. their squad is massive and they can only register 25 players. they just signed Granero who is a crowd favourite (they sing his name) and Marca if it was done would be saying its done but instead they say we have given them a deadline so if they're not sure you can bet it is not done yet. it is up to Perez and whether he will cave in. they have a friendly tonight against some crap opposition so will be interesting to see how they get on. if they smash them Perez will probably think he doesn't need Alonso
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Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
Rebel, the idea that Madrid need Alonso is based upon more than their ability to "smash crap opposition".
Fucking hell.
Rebel, the idea that Madrid need Alonso is based upon more than their ability to "smash crap opposition".
Fucking hell.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33578.msg913574#msg913574 date=1248788420]
What's going on here? Is he leaving? In Madrid?
Somebody tell me quickly. I aint got long.
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Not much mate, it's been reported he's stopped off at Madrid on the way to see his family, and there are pictures in the Spanish press of him smiling at the airport.
I think that's about the jist of it.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33578.msg913574#msg913574 date=1248788420]
What's going on here? Is he leaving? In Madrid?
Somebody tell me quickly. I aint got long.
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Not much mate, it's been reported he's stopped off at Madrid on the way to see his family, and there are pictures in the Spanish press of him smiling at the airport.
I think that's about the jist of it.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=33578.msg913577#msg913577 date=1248788511]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33578.msg913574#msg913574 date=1248788420]
What's going on here? Is he leaving? In Madrid?
Somebody tell me quickly. I aint got long.
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Not much mate, it's been reported he's stopped off at Madrid on the way to see his family, and there are pictures in the Spanish press of him smiling at the airport.
I think that's about the jist of it.
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Cheers Mark.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=33578.msg913577#msg913577 date=1248788511]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33578.msg913574#msg913574 date=1248788420]
What's going on here? Is he leaving? In Madrid?
Somebody tell me quickly. I aint got long.
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Not much mate, it's been reported he's stopped off at Madrid on the way to see his family, and there are pictures in the Spanish press of him smiling at the airport.
I think that's about the jist of it.
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Cheers Mark.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
Reading Perez's quotes today, I think it's possible that Xabi might stay (jinxed that now). Marca are just the Madrid mouth piece and will spout any old shite that paints them in a good light.
Reading Perez's quotes today, I think it's possible that Xabi might stay (jinxed that now). Marca are just the Madrid mouth piece and will spout any old shite that paints them in a good light.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33578.msg913576#msg913576 date=1248788490]
Rebel, the idea that Madrid need Alonso is based upon more than their ability to "smash crap opposition".
Fucking hell.
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you don't understand how things work in Madrid, if they win big tonight all will be rosy and Florentino will think everything is fine. if they lose or are embarassed in the Bernabeu then they could panic. lets hope Ronaldo has a blinder 🙂
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33578.msg913576#msg913576 date=1248788490]
Rebel, the idea that Madrid need Alonso is based upon more than their ability to "smash crap opposition".
Fucking hell.
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you don't understand how things work in Madrid, if they win big tonight all will be rosy and Florentino will think everything is fine. if they lose or are embarassed in the Bernabeu then they could panic. lets hope Ronaldo has a blinder 🙂
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Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
Hmmm, I hope you're right.
Hmmm, I hope you're right.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg913490#msg913490 date=1248784533]
But did I look like Stu last year?
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Erm, no.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg913490#msg913490 date=1248784533]
But did I look like Stu last year?
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Erm, no.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=33578.msg913581#msg913581 date=1248788688]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33578.msg913576#msg913576 date=1248788490]
Rebel, the idea that Madrid need Alonso is based upon more than their ability to "smash crap opposition".
Fucking hell.
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you don't understand how things work in Madrid, if they win big tonight all will be rosy and Florentino will think everything is fine. if they lose or are embarassed in the Bernabeu then they could panic. lets hope Ronaldo has a blinder 🙂
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rebel23 knows how things work in Madrid.
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=33578.msg913581#msg913581 date=1248788688]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33578.msg913576#msg913576 date=1248788490]
Rebel, the idea that Madrid need Alonso is based upon more than their ability to "smash crap opposition".
Fucking hell.
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you don't understand how things work in Madrid, if they win big tonight all will be rosy and Florentino will think everything is fine. if they lose or are embarassed in the Bernabeu then they could panic. lets hope Ronaldo has a blinder 🙂
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rebel23 knows how things work in Madrid.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
Who the fuck is Alfonso Arbeloa?
And Alonso came home to Liverpool and then flew to San Sebastian via Madrid. It's not like Perez was waiting for him at the airport.
No doubt all part of Rafa's evil plan.
Who the fuck is Alfonso Arbeloa?
And Alonso came home to Liverpool and then flew to San Sebastian via Madrid. It's not like Perez was waiting for him at the airport.
No doubt all part of Rafa's evil plan.
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