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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42299.msg1200444#msg1200444 date=1287445747]
I think people read the 'Belfast Telegraph' bit first Vlad. Hence the lack of interest.
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evidently so
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I think people read the 'Belfast Telegraph' bit first Vlad. Hence the lack of interest.
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evidently so
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OK How about The Independent
Rooney could quit United for only £5m
Fifa loophole allows striker to terminate his own contract next summer at reduced price
By Nick Harris and Sam Wallace
Tuesday, 19 October 2010
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Wayne Rooney can terminate his contract next summer under Fifa transfer regulations that would see Manchester United receive only £5m in return, The Independent can reveal.
Under the Webster ruling – named after the former Hearts player Andy Webster, who set the precedent – Rooney can buy out the final year of his contract for his current annual salary of £5m plus a relatively small compensation figure.
As dictated by Article 17 of Fifa's transfer rules, it would dramatically reduce his current market value, which is closer to £45m.
Rooney's qualification for a Webster ruling transfer has been checked by the Spain-based law firm Ruiz Huerta y Crespo, which has been involved in every major Article 17 case to date. The firm has confirmed that Rooney could leave United under the rules.
Rooney last entered into a new United contract in November 2006, when he agreed an extension to his existing deal to keep him at the club until the summer of 2012.
Under the ruling a player can walk away from his contract after what Fifa describes in its rules as the "protected period" of that deal has expired. The protected period varies according to a player's age. If a player is under the age of 28 when signing the deal in question – as Rooney was – the protected period is three years of the contract.
Rooney was 21 in November 2006 when he signed his latest deal, meaning that the protected period on his contract ran out in November 2009. In the summer of this year he had the option to walk away in exchange for two years' salary. He could do the same next summer for one year's salary. The Webster ruling can only be activated in the summer and only after the provision of 15 days' notice in writing.
If United sell Rooney in January, the club would still be able to realise something close to his full value.
United's star player has already rejected an offer of a new contract on around £150,000 a week and holds the whip hand over a club who cannot afford to let him leave for free when his current deal expires in June 2012.
At a press conference for the club's charity partner Unicef yesterday, the United chief executive, David Gill, refused to take questions on the subject of Rooney's departure. "We will say something at an appropriate time and now is not an appropriate time," Gill said. "I have nothing more to say." Privately, even senior figures at the club accept that Rooney is unlikely to sign a new deal.
The 24-year-old's key frustration with United is their failure to give him a deal that offers him parity with the highest-paid players in the Premier League, such as Manchester City's Yaya Touré, whose wages will rise to £221,000 a week in April. He is also concerned that the financial restrictions placed on the club by the Glazer family's debt is preventing United from replacing their golden generation of Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes.
Yesterday the Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti said reporters would have to ask owner Roman Abramovich "directly" if they wanted to know whether his club were in the market for Rooney. Real Madrid's sporting director, Jorge Valdano, said that his club did not have room among all their strikers and coach Jose Mourinho said he believed the player would not leave United.
The nightmare scenario for United is that Rooney goes to their neighbours City who, under the ownership of the Abu Dhabi prince Sheikh Mansour, are well capable of making him the highest-paid player in the Premier League. Even worse for United would be to lose their greatest asset for significantly less than his market value. The complicating issue in Article 17 moves is the precise calculation of the compensation. The first player to invoke Article 17 was the Scotland defender Webster, who left Hearts for Wigan in 2006 after falling out with the Edinburgh club's chairman.
A legal battle ensued, first with Fifa and then in the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), where a ruling set the precedent that a player could break a contract. The ruling effectively set the amount of compensation to be paid as equal to the total amount of wages left on the player's contract when he walked out, plus a proportion of his original transfer fee, if still applicable.
Cases since then have led to modifications in the law, notably the Brazilian player Matuzalem, who unilaterally breached his contract with Shakhtar Donetsk in 2007 to move to Real Zaragoza in Spain.
The CAS ruled in the Matuzalem case that the compensation figure should be calculated not just on owed wages, but that figure plus or minus a variable amount, depending on release clauses and potentially a player's special value to, or burden upon, a club.
Rooney could quit United for only £5m
Fifa loophole allows striker to terminate his own contract next summer at reduced price
By Nick Harris and Sam Wallace
Tuesday, 19 October 2010
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Wayne Rooney can terminate his contract next summer under Fifa transfer regulations that would see Manchester United receive only £5m in return, The Independent can reveal.
Under the Webster ruling – named after the former Hearts player Andy Webster, who set the precedent – Rooney can buy out the final year of his contract for his current annual salary of £5m plus a relatively small compensation figure.
As dictated by Article 17 of Fifa's transfer rules, it would dramatically reduce his current market value, which is closer to £45m.
Rooney's qualification for a Webster ruling transfer has been checked by the Spain-based law firm Ruiz Huerta y Crespo, which has been involved in every major Article 17 case to date. The firm has confirmed that Rooney could leave United under the rules.
Rooney last entered into a new United contract in November 2006, when he agreed an extension to his existing deal to keep him at the club until the summer of 2012.
Under the ruling a player can walk away from his contract after what Fifa describes in its rules as the "protected period" of that deal has expired. The protected period varies according to a player's age. If a player is under the age of 28 when signing the deal in question – as Rooney was – the protected period is three years of the contract.
Rooney was 21 in November 2006 when he signed his latest deal, meaning that the protected period on his contract ran out in November 2009. In the summer of this year he had the option to walk away in exchange for two years' salary. He could do the same next summer for one year's salary. The Webster ruling can only be activated in the summer and only after the provision of 15 days' notice in writing.
If United sell Rooney in January, the club would still be able to realise something close to his full value.
United's star player has already rejected an offer of a new contract on around £150,000 a week and holds the whip hand over a club who cannot afford to let him leave for free when his current deal expires in June 2012.
At a press conference for the club's charity partner Unicef yesterday, the United chief executive, David Gill, refused to take questions on the subject of Rooney's departure. "We will say something at an appropriate time and now is not an appropriate time," Gill said. "I have nothing more to say." Privately, even senior figures at the club accept that Rooney is unlikely to sign a new deal.
The 24-year-old's key frustration with United is their failure to give him a deal that offers him parity with the highest-paid players in the Premier League, such as Manchester City's Yaya Touré, whose wages will rise to £221,000 a week in April. He is also concerned that the financial restrictions placed on the club by the Glazer family's debt is preventing United from replacing their golden generation of Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes.
Yesterday the Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti said reporters would have to ask owner Roman Abramovich "directly" if they wanted to know whether his club were in the market for Rooney. Real Madrid's sporting director, Jorge Valdano, said that his club did not have room among all their strikers and coach Jose Mourinho said he believed the player would not leave United.
The nightmare scenario for United is that Rooney goes to their neighbours City who, under the ownership of the Abu Dhabi prince Sheikh Mansour, are well capable of making him the highest-paid player in the Premier League. Even worse for United would be to lose their greatest asset for significantly less than his market value. The complicating issue in Article 17 moves is the precise calculation of the compensation. The first player to invoke Article 17 was the Scotland defender Webster, who left Hearts for Wigan in 2006 after falling out with the Edinburgh club's chairman.
A legal battle ensued, first with Fifa and then in the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), where a ruling set the precedent that a player could break a contract. The ruling effectively set the amount of compensation to be paid as equal to the total amount of wages left on the player's contract when he walked out, plus a proportion of his original transfer fee, if still applicable.
Cases since then have led to modifications in the law, notably the Brazilian player Matuzalem, who unilaterally breached his contract with Shakhtar Donetsk in 2007 to move to Real Zaragoza in Spain.
The CAS ruled in the Matuzalem case that the compensation figure should be calculated not just on owed wages, but that figure plus or minus a variable amount, depending on release clauses and potentially a player's special value to, or burden upon, a club.
Well, it's one up from the Belfast Telegraph 😉
United have put themselves in a bit of a position though. Daft little Wayne could just be about to be the wealthiest player in the game by a long chalk
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United have put themselves in a bit of a position though. Daft little Wayne could just be about to be the wealthiest player in the game by a long chalk
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=42299.msg1200440#msg1200440 date=1287445334]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=42299.msg1200430#msg1200430 date=1287444596]
The Belfast Telegraph reckon he could move for as little as £5m, under the Webster ruling where he can buy out the last year of his contract.
He does not mind who he upsets does our Wayne
Lolz
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I am not sure anyone took any notice of this........... 😉
That could fuck United up big time in their current circumstances
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i'd completely forgotten about that rule, it's surprising it hasn't been used more than it has. fucking hell it'd be funny if rooney screwed them over on this.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=42299.msg1200430#msg1200430 date=1287444596]
The Belfast Telegraph reckon he could move for as little as £5m, under the Webster ruling where he can buy out the last year of his contract.
He does not mind who he upsets does our Wayne
Lolz
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I am not sure anyone took any notice of this........... 😉
That could fuck United up big time in their current circumstances
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i'd completely forgotten about that rule, it's surprising it hasn't been used more than it has. fucking hell it'd be funny if rooney screwed them over on this.
Well if he really has seen his spotty hairy arse (that's an assumption) with slur Alex , it is a distinct possibility.
If this is the case and it seems to be United are in a very difficult position, they can't play the heavy hand or he will deffo walk, and if they want him to stay it will have to be some contract.
United could lose a £40m player for buttons
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If this is the case and it seems to be United are in a very difficult position, they can't play the heavy hand or he will deffo walk, and if they want him to stay it will have to be some contract.
United could lose a £40m player for buttons
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Wow the rumours are picking up speed!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11979_6453438,00.html
and telegraph is also reporting on the 5mil loophole!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8071863/Wayne-Rooney-could-quit-Manchester-United-for-just-5m-using-Fifa-loophole.html
But when Fergie comes out shooting with all guns blazing, the story might just end dead. Right now I am sure he and the powers that be in Man U will put on his most persuasive tactic to have Rooney stay.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11979_6453438,00.html
and telegraph is also reporting on the 5mil loophole!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8071863/Wayne-Rooney-could-quit-Manchester-United-for-just-5m-using-Fifa-loophole.html
But when Fergie comes out shooting with all guns blazing, the story might just end dead. Right now I am sure he and the powers that be in Man U will put on his most persuasive tactic to have Rooney stay.
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=42299.msg1200624#msg1200624 date=1287478197]
[quote author=tombrown link=topic=42299.msg1200623#msg1200623 date=1287478151]
Manchester United would attempt to sign Liverpool striker Fernando Torres if Rooney left Old Trafford.
Full story: Daily Star
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A straight swap would do.
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Fuck that
[quote author=tombrown link=topic=42299.msg1200623#msg1200623 date=1287478151]
Manchester United would attempt to sign Liverpool striker Fernando Torres if Rooney left Old Trafford.
Full story: Daily Star
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A straight swap would do.
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Fuck that
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=42299.msg1200624#msg1200624 date=1287478197]
[quote author=tombrown link=topic=42299.msg1200623#msg1200623 date=1287478151]
Manchester United would attempt to sign Liverpool striker Fernando Torres if Rooney left Old Trafford.
Full story: Daily Star
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A straight swap would do.
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Yeah, snap.
But it won't happen. The old man is way too smart to let Ronney go, he's his biggest star, by far. They would have kissed and made up by the end of the week.
[quote author=tombrown link=topic=42299.msg1200623#msg1200623 date=1287478151]
Manchester United would attempt to sign Liverpool striker Fernando Torres if Rooney left Old Trafford.
Full story: Daily Star
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A straight swap would do.
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Yeah, snap.
But it won't happen. The old man is way too smart to let Ronney go, he's his biggest star, by far. They would have kissed and made up by the end of the week.
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=42299.msg1200624#msg1200624 date=1287478197]
[quote author=tombrown link=topic=42299.msg1200623#msg1200623 date=1287478151]
Manchester United would attempt to sign Liverpool striker Fernando Torres if Rooney left Old Trafford.
Full story: Daily Star
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A straight swap would do.
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I dont think i'd take a swap. Rooney is not an out and out goal scorer, he comes from deep with late runs. IF we were to have him we'd need 442 and another decent striker. Sadly we don't have one and there's no guarantee how well our money would be spent or if there would be enough to get a good striker to replace torres
[quote author=tombrown link=topic=42299.msg1200623#msg1200623 date=1287478151]
Manchester United would attempt to sign Liverpool striker Fernando Torres if Rooney left Old Trafford.
Full story: Daily Star
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A straight swap would do.
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I dont think i'd take a swap. Rooney is not an out and out goal scorer, he comes from deep with late runs. IF we were to have him we'd need 442 and another decent striker. Sadly we don't have one and there's no guarantee how well our money would be spent or if there would be enough to get a good striker to replace torres
Apparently they havnt spoken since the prostitute thingy. I wouldnt bet on this, shall we call it "difference in opinion", being sorted out very easily.
Whether or not Rooney could be swapped for Torres is an academic debate. There is no way Rooney could ever play for Liverpool because the Evertonians would be so incensed that they would make his life impossible and quite possibly kill him.
Personally I think a fully fit and motivated Torres is a much better player than Rooney.
Personally I think a fully fit and motivated Torres is a much better player than Rooney.
I agree bro'.
I think the earlier plan was much better. Rooney pushes Tevez out of City and we steal Tevez on his £10m release clause
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I think the earlier plan was much better. Rooney pushes Tevez out of City and we steal Tevez on his £10m release clause
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[quote author=Portly link=topic=42299.msg1200643#msg1200643 date=1287479295]
Whether or not Rooney could be swapped for Torres is an academic debate. There is no way Rooney could ever play for Liverpool because the Evertonians would be so incensed that they would make his life impossible and quite possibly kill him.
Personally I think a fully fit and motivated Torres is a much better player than Rooney.
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Of course.
But right now I'd happily trade Torres for Rooney.
Fickle as I am that may change shortly (hopefully).
Whether or not Rooney could be swapped for Torres is an academic debate. There is no way Rooney could ever play for Liverpool because the Evertonians would be so incensed that they would make his life impossible and quite possibly kill him.
Personally I think a fully fit and motivated Torres is a much better player than Rooney.
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Of course.
But right now I'd happily trade Torres for Rooney.
Fickle as I am that may change shortly (hopefully).
Oooooer. This is all very strange. I can't see where he'd go, so I'd imagine he'll end up staying.
I'd say Real Madrid would be the most likely of destinations, with Benzema going the other way or something like that, but even that seems farfetched. I can't imagine he'd bother or get the hang of another language. He can barely speak English.
I'd say Real Madrid would be the most likely of destinations, with Benzema going the other way or something like that, but even that seems farfetched. I can't imagine he'd bother or get the hang of another language. He can barely speak English.
They could swop him for Tevez
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