The gaffer deserves to be given time before we judge him
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Halfway! How generous.
But let's face it, he's 62 or whatever. Everyone knows already what kind of manager he is, well, everyone with a clue.
He was hardly going to turn into Shankly at this stage in his career; we got exactly what we *knew* we were getting
But let's face it, he's 62 or whatever. Everyone knows already what kind of manager he is, well, everyone with a clue.
He was hardly going to turn into Shankly at this stage in his career; we got exactly what we *knew* we were getting
I just don't understand it; I initially was very ambivalent about him, but he did do reasonably well with Fulham.
Wasnt he manager of the year or some crap like that?
Then he bean talking in the press and I was thrilled.
He'd seen weaknesses which every one and his dog had seen and 'seemed' to be taking steps to fix it.
Then the game starts and its the same shit.
I just dont understand.
Wasnt he manager of the year or some crap like that?
Then he bean talking in the press and I was thrilled.
He'd seen weaknesses which every one and his dog had seen and 'seemed' to be taking steps to fix it.
Then the game starts and its the same shit.
I just dont understand.
I've liked some of the things he's said since his joined the club but sadly he isn't putting his words into action.
We don't seem to play football the Liverpool way like he hinted at doing. Maybe it's too early. Hopefully Meireles and Cole will help us out here.
He also seems to keep suggesting there are too many mediocre players on the payroll yet he's gone and added three more to it in Jones, Konchesky and Poulsen. He also seemed to be in for Carlton Cole which would have been another.
We don't seem to play football the Liverpool way like he hinted at doing. Maybe it's too early. Hopefully Meireles and Cole will help us out here.
He also seems to keep suggesting there are too many mediocre players on the payroll yet he's gone and added three more to it in Jones, Konchesky and Poulsen. He also seemed to be in for Carlton Cole which would have been another.
anyone who plays poo and mucas together loses my respect instantly.
It's a marathon not a sprint. I'm confident that we'll see a great improvement once Cole is back and the Portuguese fella beds in. And to be fair, at least Roy didn't drag our only strike threat off with 25 minutes to go.
Rafa got 6 years, i'm prepared to give Roy more than 6 fucking matches.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41849.msg1173234#msg1173234 date=1284314355]
It's a marathon not a sprint. I'm confident that we'll see a great improvement once Cole is back and the Portuguese fella beds in. And to be fair, at least Roy didn't drag our only strike threat off with 25 minutes to go.
[/quote]Well said Shiek. Sure people are pissed off cos we played shit but did anyone expect a win today considering the recent record against this team?
Next week we could/should field
Reina
Johnson Carra Agger Kon
Maxi Gerrard Meireles Jov
Cole Torres
and if that team gets a run of games we'll win most weeks.
It's a marathon not a sprint. I'm confident that we'll see a great improvement once Cole is back and the Portuguese fella beds in. And to be fair, at least Roy didn't drag our only strike threat off with 25 minutes to go.
[/quote]Well said Shiek. Sure people are pissed off cos we played shit but did anyone expect a win today considering the recent record against this team?
Next week we could/should field
Reina
Johnson Carra Agger Kon
Maxi Gerrard Meireles Jov
Cole Torres
and if that team gets a run of games we'll win most weeks.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41849.msg1173234#msg1173234 date=1284314355]
It's a marathon not a sprint. I'm confident that we'll see a great improvement once Cole is back and the Portuguese fella beds in. And to be fair, at least Roy didn't drag our only strike threat off with 25 minutes to go.
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hope your right sheik .Roy has improved our defending against corners and set pieces credit where credit is due.i think raul--gerrard central midfield is the way forward with cole behind torres .
It's a marathon not a sprint. I'm confident that we'll see a great improvement once Cole is back and the Portuguese fella beds in. And to be fair, at least Roy didn't drag our only strike threat off with 25 minutes to go.
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hope your right sheik .Roy has improved our defending against corners and set pieces credit where credit is due.i think raul--gerrard central midfield is the way forward with cole behind torres .
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41849.msg1173234#msg1173234 date=1284314355]
It's a marathon not a sprint. I'm confident that we'll see a great improvement once Cole is back and the Portuguese fella beds in. And to be fair, at least Roy didn't drag our only strike threat off with 25 minutes to go.
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Roy has improved our defending against corners and set pieces credit where credit is due.[/quote]
Has he? We were awful in the air today.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41849.msg1173234#msg1173234 date=1284314355]
It's a marathon not a sprint. I'm confident that we'll see a great improvement once Cole is back and the Portuguese fella beds in. And to be fair, at least Roy didn't drag our only strike threat off with 25 minutes to go.
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Roy has improved our defending against corners and set pieces credit where credit is due.[/quote]
Has he? We were awful in the air today.
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[quote author=aquaman4 link=topic=41849.msg1173247#msg1173247 date=1284314917]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41849.msg1173234#msg1173234 date=1284314355]
It's a marathon not a sprint. I'm confident that we'll see a great improvement once Cole is back and the Portuguese fella beds in. And to be fair, at least Roy didn't drag our only strike threat off with 25 minutes to go.
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Roy has improved our defending against corners and set pieces credit where credit is due.[/quote]
Has he? We were awful in the air today.
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They were lining up to head the ball, and we didn't really win that contest
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41849.msg1173234#msg1173234 date=1284314355]
It's a marathon not a sprint. I'm confident that we'll see a great improvement once Cole is back and the Portuguese fella beds in. And to be fair, at least Roy didn't drag our only strike threat off with 25 minutes to go.
[/quote]
Roy has improved our defending against corners and set pieces credit where credit is due.[/quote]
Has he? We were awful in the air today.
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They were lining up to head the ball, and we didn't really win that contest
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41849.msg1173234#msg1173234 date=1284314355]
It's a marathon not a sprint. I'm confident that we'll see a great improvement once Cole is back and the Portuguese fella beds in. And to be fair, at least Roy didn't drag our only strike threat off with 25 minutes to go.
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Weel said, Shieky..
But some of the decisions were baffling, and all too familiar.
I thought Meireles wasnt played as he was fatigued or something, why else was Lucas still on?
It's a marathon not a sprint. I'm confident that we'll see a great improvement once Cole is back and the Portuguese fella beds in. And to be fair, at least Roy didn't drag our only strike threat off with 25 minutes to go.
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Weel said, Shieky..
But some of the decisions were baffling, and all too familiar.
I thought Meireles wasnt played as he was fatigued or something, why else was Lucas still on?
I know it is early on but we are joint-worst goal scorers in the Premiership so far, in company such as Stoke, West Brom, West Ham and Wigan but have, what is considered to be, one of the best strikers and prolific midfielders in the world. Let's hope there are starts for Cole and Meireles next time...
Probably because most rational people see how incredibly fuckin short sighted it was to replace a proven manager with a journeyman of no notable substance?
Hodgson is a decent, honourable man, but can anyone seriously argue a case for his appointment on footballing grounds?
Hodgson is a decent, honourable man, but can anyone seriously argue a case for his appointment on footballing grounds?
Not really, but by the end of last season Rafa had to go.
Hopefully rootkit won't turn out to be one of prodigal mentalists - hmmm - but I said that ages ago: there's no footballing reason for Granddad to be Liverpool manager
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Probably because most rational people see how incredibly fuckin short sighted it was to replace a proven manager with a journeyman of no notable substance?
Hodgson is a decent, honourable man, but can anyone seriously argue a case for his appointment on footballing grounds?
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I can.
We were heading towards certain calamity, nothing was working.
We still might, mind you..but nothing is certain.
Very disappointing from Hodgson, admittedly.
Probably because most rational people see how incredibly fuckin short sighted it was to replace a proven manager with a journeyman of no notable substance?
Hodgson is a decent, honourable man, but can anyone seriously argue a case for his appointment on footballing grounds?
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I can.
We were heading towards certain calamity, nothing was working.
We still might, mind you..but nothing is certain.
Very disappointing from Hodgson, admittedly.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=41849.msg1173326#msg1173326 date=1284319499]
Not really, but by the end of last season Rafa had to go.
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Painful to see at the end, wasn't it? The ego's of senior players, manager and directors were shite in equal measures. Never seem the likes of that in 20 odd years.
Should have worked to resolve the problems first rather than bringing more instability.
Not really, but by the end of last season Rafa had to go.
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Painful to see at the end, wasn't it? The ego's of senior players, manager and directors were shite in equal measures. Never seem the likes of that in 20 odd years.
Should have worked to resolve the problems first rather than bringing more instability.
[quote author=rootkit link=topic=41849.msg1173324#msg1173324 date=1284319350]
Probably because most rational people see how incredibly fuckin short sighted it was to replace a proven manager with a journeyman of no notable substance?
Hodgson is a decent, honourable man, but can anyone seriously argue a case for his appointment on footballing grounds?
[/quote]Welcome to the site. Can you make an argument, on footballing grounds, for the club to have retained Rafa?
Probably because most rational people see how incredibly fuckin short sighted it was to replace a proven manager with a journeyman of no notable substance?
Hodgson is a decent, honourable man, but can anyone seriously argue a case for his appointment on footballing grounds?
[/quote]Welcome to the site. Can you make an argument, on footballing grounds, for the club to have retained Rafa?
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=41849.msg1173326#msg1173326 date=1284319499]
Not really, but by the end of last season Rafa had to go.
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Painful to see at the end, wasn't it? The ego's of senior players, manager and directors were shite in equal measures. Never seem the likes of that in 20 odd years.
Should have worked to resolve the problems first rather than bringing more instability.
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I'm convinced if Rafa were still here Stevie wouldnt be, & possibly Torres too. I have no proof of this, but it is my strongly held opinion based on the players attitudes last season.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=41849.msg1173326#msg1173326 date=1284319499]
Not really, but by the end of last season Rafa had to go.
[/quote]
Painful to see at the end, wasn't it? The ego's of senior players, manager and directors were shite in equal measures. Never seem the likes of that in 20 odd years.
Should have worked to resolve the problems first rather than bringing more instability.
[/quote]
I'm convinced if Rafa were still here Stevie wouldnt be, & possibly Torres too. I have no proof of this, but it is my strongly held opinion based on the players attitudes last season.
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I'm convinced if Rafa were still here Stevie wouldnt be, & possibly Torres too. I have no proof of this, but it is my strongly held opinion based on the players attitudes last season.
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Not sure about Torres but defo SG and JC. This is what I was getting at by saying nobody at the club (players/manager etc) can be proud of their actions last season.
I'm convinced if Rafa were still here Stevie wouldnt be, & possibly Torres too. I have no proof of this, but it is my strongly held opinion based on the players attitudes last season.
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Not sure about Torres but defo SG and JC. This is what I was getting at by saying nobody at the club (players/manager etc) can be proud of their actions last season.
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