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Henry: “I don’t have ‘Sheikh’ in front of my nameâ€
Posted on Monday, 18th October 2010 by David Tully

New Liverpool owner John W Henry has stated that although he doesn’t have the riches of a Sheikh Mansour or Roman Abramovich, he believes he can make Liverpool successful with his good business acumen. He said to the Guardian:

“I don’t have ‘Sheikh’ in front of my name. We look at revenues in sports as being the ability to send out a strong team on the field. When we arrived at the [Boston] Red Sox, the New York Yankees were a juggernaut and it wasn’t that much of a rivalry. I believe we turned it into a rivalry where we have gone toe-to-toe with the Yankees, even though they have got a much higher revenue. People now think that Boston is on a par economically with the New York Yankees, which is just not true. When we looked at Liverpool the first thing that struck us was that there are the opportunities here to really build a winner because the revenue potential around the world makes this a global football club. Especially with the financial fair play rules coming in, it’s really going to be revenue that is going to drive how good your company is going to be in the future. That’s one thing that we tink we’re good at.â€
 
[from the same article]

"Liverpool's commercial revenue has risen impressively in recent years but will not, said Henry, head out of the club as was the case with Hicks's and Gillett's debt to the banks. "We are on the second smallest ballpark in baseball and we have the second highest revenues and, despite having those revenues, we haven't given our partners in nine years a profit distribution," he said. "We've given a tax distribution but we have poured every penny ever made back into that club, whether in Fenway Park or elsewhere. I don't think any thinking individual buys a sports franchise these days – or an English football club – to make money. Maybe a few but they should have their head examined. It's about competing at the highest level in the world's largest sport for us. That's why we are here."
 
You couldn't get much further from the 'snoogy doogy' bluster of H&G and all that cringe-worthy flashing of bundles of dollars. That said, these guys are canny enough to want to create a very different self image. The comment on not thinking it possible to make profit on a sports club is also reassuring. Of course it could all go tits up, but so far, so good.
 
Henry and his philosophies sound too good to be true.

I'm excited about the future of this club under nesv's ownership.

I've got zero interest in the red soxs or baseball but I've done some reading up on them and henry. I guess he couldn't be further from hicks if he tried in terms of success at other sports ventures and franchises.

Hopefully details on getting the new stadium belatedly built/ anfield rejuvinated will trickle out by the end of the year
 
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I like him. I hope this doesn't turn sour.
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'cause if the milk turns sour, henry isn't the pussy to drink it
 
i'm completely ambivalent about them.

as well as the stadium, we need a one off sizeable injection of cash to kickstart the squad and they're shit owners if they don't provide it.
 
I like the bit about anyone wanting to own a football club in order to make money is mental, and the challenge of simply winning is what drives him.

We shall see
 
Liverpool Supporters Take Note – Advice From a Red Sox Fan
By JOE MAHAN
Two years after John Henry bought the Boston Red Sox in 2002, the team won its first championship in 86 years, and followed with another World Series title in 2007.C.J. Gunther/European Pressphoto Agency Two years after John Henry bought the Boston Red Sox in 2002, the team won its first championship in 86 years, and followed with another World Series title in 2007.

The sale of Liverpool F.C. to New England Sports Ventures, led by John Henry, represents a sort of harmonic convergence. Two waterfront cities, Boston and Liverpool, that share Irish connections, and two storied clubs, with all-time great stars, historic stadiums, rich traditions and huge payrolls are now linked through sport.

I am a long-time supporter of both teams that Henry now owns. Raised outside of Boston, the son of a Red Sox fan, it was a foregone conclusion that I would enjoy the highs and endure the lows (mostly the lows) of my beloved Sox. Sure, times as a Sox fan are better now, but the first 34 of my 39 years were tough.

My support for Liverpool came later, when I took an interest in the club during a trip to England in 1989, a few days after the Hillsborough disaster, and followed the Reds from afar. But I have always seen parallels between my two clubs.

Apparently, so has Henry.

Liverpool supporters are nervous about the takeover, and Sunday’s 2-0 loss to Everton did little to ease anxiety or fans’ skepticism. American ownership of Premiership clubs hasn’t exactly been stellar. However, this new ownership group brings a little more to the table than Messrs. Hicks and Gillett

The first eight years of Henry’s reign in Boston have shown a near-perfect combination of business acumen, public relations savvy and on-field success. Some things in which the Liverpool fans might take some solace:
The Outsiders Blend In
John Henry, taking in his first game as owner of Liverpool, a 2-0 loss to Everton on Sunday.Michael Regan/Getty Images John Henry, taking in his first game as owner of Liverpool, a 2-0 loss to Everton on Sunday.

Henry and his group were considered foreigners to Bostonians when they arrived in 2002. The Sox were locally owned for a long time, and though Henry had been a baseball owner before – he owned the Florida Marlins from 1999 to 2001 — fans feared that the team had fallen victim to foreign occupation. Henry came in and said all the right things but, as has been made painfully clear over the past three-plus years in Liverpool, words aren’t always enough. But Henry backed up his promises with a healthy dose of follow-through by assessing the landscape, learning the culture and listening to fans. It’s worth noting that despite two World Series championships in the span of four seasons that have Red Sox Nation firmly entrenched on cloud nine, Henry and the owners still respectfully engage fans. Following the 2010 season, the owners placed a full-page ad in the Boston Globe with a letter apologizing to the fans for failing to make the playoffs. Some might call this a public relations ploy, but it’s a tangible sign that this group understands its fan base. (To the Spirit of Shankly: here’s to no longer having to say, “You’re Still Not Welcome Here.â€)
For the Good of the Club

Henry said last Friday, “We’re committed to winning.†Liverpool fans must be thinking, “we haven’t won an English championship in two decades — talk is cheap.†But Henry uttered similar words in 2002 after purchasing the Red Sox, a team that hadn’t won a title in 86 years. Not only has he delivered —twice— but he and his group have done it the right way. The Red Sox spend a lot of money on players, sure, but they protect that investment by bringing in people who know the sport to oversee operations. Hicks and Gillett brought on debt to support their pronouncements at Liverpool.
To Build or Not to Build?

The stadium issue is another commonality between the two clubs. Much like the Stanley Park concept in Liverpool — build a new, bigger stadium to better compete with the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal and Chelsea — plans for a shiny new ballpark existed in Boston in the early 2000s. This was driven by the Red Sox’ previous owners (sound familiar?) and a lot of the fan base was dead-set against it. Nostalgia and tradition are central to the Red Sox ethos and Fenway Park is very much at its heart. Recognizing this, Henry and colleagues came in and updated and improved Fenway instead of building new and it’s been a great thing for the club and its fans. I fully expect them to use the same approach at Anfield.
Commitment Counts

Like Liverpool, the Red Sox brand has an extensive and meaningful history, with a passionate, knowledgeable and far-reaching fan base. The core fans are those with a life-long allegiance to the club, not mere pretenders who jump on the bandwagon following a championship (I’m looking at those of you who became Red Sox fans after the 2004 World Series).
While Henry and his co-owners have not turned new fans away, cultivating new customers, their strategic decisions appear to have the committed fans in mind.
N.E.S.V. owns a diverse portfolio of other sports properties, domestically and abroad, including a highly successful regional sports TV network, which provides the capital necessary to re-invest in the team. Whereas other sport owners might look to squeeze every possible cent out of a brand — often betraying the true brand identity — Henry has amassed a stable of strong complimentary brands that can all benefit from the team’s success.

Henry has not micromanaged the Red Sox brand, rather he has fashioned a winner both on and off the field. Reds fans can take heart; the stars could finally be aligning for Liverpool.
 
Explained Ground share is a big NO for the majority of supporters, that Redeveloping Anfield would be most fans choice but going to a new stadium across the road is no problem at all.

Said I was not bothered if they call it The McDonalds stadium as long as they get £100m naming rights and re invest it in the club.

Went on about how we have thousands of kids who can't go the match because they have to pay full money said we should offer a discount and kids can buy tickets with there mates as my lad wont sit next to me as I moan to much, said we need the atmosphere back in the ground.

Said the club does not cater for the fan going the match moaned about the drink and food on offer prices and quality(we need the fan spending in the ground).

Spoke about the academy and lack of scouting, said were poor in that department.

They honestly did not say that much they just listened, but one thing is for sure they have one hell of a job on there hands and it wont happen overnight.

My first impressions are good, they made no promises(thank god) and are just starting there work today.

They thanked KF for the campaign we waged and said it had a massive affect on the deal being able to go through.

I also got to thank Purslow for the work Ayre Broughton and himself done in saving our club.

We did speak about yesterday's game before you all ask and I said I was just glad there money had already been cashed.

rough minutes of the meeting wth NESV and the fans.
read it twice and 'roy out' appears nowhere in all of the points raised. I'm going to read it one more time to make sure.
 
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Explained Ground share is a big NO for the majority of supporters, that Redeveloping Anfield would be most fans choice but going to a new stadium across the road is no problem at all.

Said I was not bothered if they call it The McDonalds stadium as long as they get £100m naming rights and re invest it in the club.

Went on about how we have thousands of kids who can't go the match because they have to pay full money said we should offer a discount and kids can buy tickets with there mates as my lad wont sit next to me as I moan to much, said we need the atmosphere back in the ground.

Said the club does not cater for the fan going the match moaned about the drink and food on offer prices and quality(we need the fan spending in the ground).

Spoke about the academy and lack of scouting, said were poor in that department.

They honestly did not say that much they just listened, but one thing is for sure they have one hell of a job on there hands and it wont happen overnight.

My first impressions are good, they made no promises(thank god) and are just starting there work today.

They thanked KF for the campaign we waged and said it had a massive affect on the deal being able to go through.

I also got to thank Purslow for the work Ayre Broughton and himself done in saving our club.

We did speak about yesterday's game before you all ask and I said I was just glad there money had already been cashed.

rough minutes of the meeting wth NESV and the fans.
read it twice and 'roy out' appears nowhere in all of the points raised. I'm going to read it one more time to make sure.
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"I can't bring my son cos it's too expensive for a ticket, and cos I spend all that money on burgers and pints at the ground, which are also too expensive. But if you call the new Staidum the McDonalds stadium then I'd be fine with that. Actually - would that make the burgers cheaper?"

No wonder they didn't fucking talk back.
 
Yeah, it's a pretty poor fucking attempt at conversing that's for sure.

In fact, it's just plain fucking embarrassing.
 
This is the whole problem when you get some cunt up that purports to speak for the fans, he fucking doesn't. He might speak for some of you as regards redeveloping Anfield, that's fine I respect your view, but he does not for me.
Who the fuck told him most fans would rather see Anfield re-developed, maybe they do, I don't know, but nor does he.

I hope JH goes about this in a more democratic way


regards
 
Yeah, I'm genuinely not for fan involvement at all. It's far too messy
 
I'd like a nice new shiny stadium that is instantly recognisable as new anfield
 
Yeah, I took offence to that, my (painful) choice would be a new stadium for so many reasons, & I know many fans who think that way & many who don't as well.

I sincerely hope you're right & Henry does look into things more from the fans perspective.
 
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This is the whole problem when you get some cunt up that purports to speak for the fans, he fucking doesn't. He might speak for some of you as regards redeveloping Anfield, that's fine I respect your view, but he does not for me.
Who the fuck told him most fans would rather see Anfield re-developed, maybe they do, I don't know, but nor does he.

I hope JH goes about this in a more democratic way


regards
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Agreed.

Although - Do you think the new owners listened that attentively anyway Vlad?

The whole 'invite the supportes groups in on Day 1' was nothing more than a platitude aimed at currying favour. As fucking if a successful multi-millionaire sports owner is gonna be swayed by some lad talking about the price of pies at Anfield.
 
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=42275.msg1200412#msg1200412 date=1287443941]
This is the whole problem when you get some cunt up that purports to speak for the fans, he fucking doesn't. He might speak for some of you as regards redeveloping Anfield, that's fine I respect your view, but he does not for me.
Who the fuck told him most fans would rather see Anfield re-developed, maybe they do, I don't know, but nor does he.

I hope JH goes about this in a more democratic way


regards
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Agreed.

Although - Do you think the new owners listened that attentively anyway Vlad?

The whole 'invite the supportes groups in on Day 1' was nothing more than a platitude aimed at currying favour. As fucking if a successful multi-millionaire sports owner is gonna be swayed by some lad talking about the price of pies at Anfield.
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Well I would like to think not Ryan, and I would not want JH to think that some of these divs represent the cross section of his customers

regards
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42275.msg1200419#msg1200419 date=1287444274]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=42275.msg1200412#msg1200412 date=1287443941]
This is the whole problem when you get some cunt up that purports to speak for the fans, he fucking doesn't. He might speak for some of you as regards redeveloping Anfield, that's fine I respect your view, but he does not for me.
Who the fuck told him most fans would rather see Anfield re-developed, maybe they do, I don't know, but nor does he.

I hope JH goes about this in a more democratic way


regards
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Agreed.

Although - Do you think the new owners listened that attentively anyway Vlad?

The whole 'invite the supportes groups in on Day 1' was nothing more than a platitude aimed at currying favour. As fucking if a successful multi-millionaire sports owner is gonna be swayed by some lad talking about the price of pies at Anfield.
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Well I would like to think not Ryan, and I would not want JH to think that some of these divs represent the cross section of his customers

regards
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There should have been an inter-fourm debate on the types of questions this lad was allowed to put to Henry long before he got there. 'The price of steak & kidneys behind the Anny Rd end' might not have made the cut I reckon.
 
to be fir I think if there were a world wide liverpool pool as to whether to build on anfield or move to a new stadium the vote would probably end up being split 50/50
 
I am not sure Neil, perhaps it would be 50/50, but I think at the time most of us loved the HKS stadium version 1, it depends how iconic and how much capacity the new one had, and what the real arguments both ways are now.
The point is we don't know and he should not be spouting to the owners saying most fans would prefer a redeveloped Anfield when he does not know that to be the case. As Ryan says JH was probably just humouring them anyway


regards
 
There is a tendency on this site to jump on any fan who says or does anything publicly and call them no-marks, self appointed wannabes or (the worst of all insults) a RAWKite!

How much abuse did those who proposed to go down to the High Court and demonstrate against H&G get here (they were going to cause the judge to rule against us apparently), and yet when all said & done those people were thanked by the board and new owners for their support and told "it made a difference".

So some guy says that most fans would support a redevelopment & he is ridiculed; he also says in the same breath that a move across the road is "no probelm at all" (but we'll conveniently ignore that) - nor do I hear the outrage that he dared represent fellow supporters when he said that a ground share was a "big NO", how dare he speak on our behalf without first asking permission or seeign if there were maybe one or two fans on internet forums who actually do want groundshare.
 
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