We’ve been here before with Bobby. If we win nobodies cares. I doubt Nunez will ever be a flabby melt though.
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Tough day for Darwin today. I do not think he is well suited to a game like today when the opposition plays in a low block - same as several games lately.
He needs room in behind and a team that will push forward and be subject to the counter. Surprisingly, he is much less of a danger in the air than I expected, so even if we had delivered more balls into the box for him today, I doubt it would have worked. I would play Gakpo in Firmino role for games like today.
He needs room in behind and a team that will push forward and be subject to the counter. Surprisingly, he is much less of a danger in the air than I expected, so even if we had delivered more balls into the box for him today, I doubt it would have worked. I would play Gakpo in Firmino role for games like today.
I'm starting to get annoyed with him. I like him a lot and when we're on song he adds so much to our play. But game like today? Hes isolated and shite.
Like, when he arrived he'd shoot no matter what. Klopps trained it out of him and it seems he's constantly indecisive over what to do. It's disappointing in a way
Not an excuse, but when we have options, we should pick best options for the opposition and give the players best opportunity for success.
I also think Elliott is perfect for opposition like Palace and should start these games. Dominic plays best against the best competition.
Like, I get it's for the greater good, but games like today is when it's to the teams detriment. We were screaming today for someone to just try from range, or just take a snapshot. Everything's always the extra pass, or flick, or touch. That comes from indecision and I think that's come from the training
Given how dire Diaz was, time to move Darwin out left again and let Gakpo link play through the middle?
Think I'm at that point now tbh. He needs confidence and he might get that a bit more on the wing
Unlucky today that we were narrow and unable to cross the ball.
He’s brilliant in the air and that should be a weapon against the low block.
He’s brilliant in the air and that should be a weapon against the low block.
Today klopp should have limited how much Trent inverted. There was ample space for him to work
Agreed.
I mean it’s not like he’s leading the way clear ahead of the rest. There’s a couple in it between 8 different forwards there and the fact Diaz is only 1 behind (somewhat alarmingly) probably says how slow we are to release the ball to our forwards. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me if Jones was responsible for about 19 of the 21.
Another thing I’ll point out is that we don’t actually know for sure how many of those offsides were actually offsides unless you have full trust in all the lino’s making the right calls. I mean technically 1 of the 10 times Diaz was called offside was for the goal at Spurs which we all know wasn’t.
Another thing I’ll point out is that we don’t actually know for sure how many of those offsides were actually offsides unless you have full trust in all the lino’s making the right calls. I mean technically 1 of the 10 times Diaz was called offside was for the goal at Spurs which we all know wasn’t.
I think that's what the main gripe is. A lot of people can see he's so close the being exactly what we need in that position; it's just that last 5% of stupidity that's stopping it.
It's the hoping rather than expecting it to click
I think with attacking players the quality is generally very obvious from the get go and you don't need to go through this whole process of agonizing over will he, won't he turn out to be good.
There are exceptions of course, late bloomers and what not but there probably aren't too many forwards who arrive at a top club at 23ish, struggle for a couple seasons and then turn it all around and become world class. Those types generally tend to rehabilitate themselves at a different (smaller) club and then perhaps get another chance at the top later down the line.
I'm hoping, like most, that it somehow just clicks and he goes on a tear but right now he's not demonstrating enough to prove that he's worth perservering with.
Cough ... Salah. That's almost exactly what he did (Chelsea + Roma). Not suggesting Nunez can be anything like that but there's still plenty of time for him to become what we hope he will become.
It's questionable whether Salah failed at Chelsea anyways given the way they manage players and their squad but either way, he falls into this category:
"Those types generally tend to rehabilitate themselves at a different (smaller) club and then perhaps get another chance at the top later down the line."
Yeah - the measure I’m sort of applying to him this season is goals in the EPL :
<10 : poor season - you’d have to question persevering with him as the main central forward.
10-14 : ok season - showing improvement.
15-19 : good season
20+ : excellent season
He’s got 4 goals so far and there are 22 league games left - I think he’ll land on around 12-14 League goals for the season - which is ok, but not quite good enough, but will probably buy him another year.
If he doesn’t reach 10 League goals, there’s a case for moving him on.
<10 : poor season - you’d have to question persevering with him as the main central forward.
10-14 : ok season - showing improvement.
15-19 : good season
20+ : excellent season
He’s got 4 goals so far and there are 22 league games left - I think he’ll land on around 12-14 League goals for the season - which is ok, but not quite good enough, but will probably buy him another year.
If he doesn’t reach 10 League goals, there’s a case for moving him on.
Didn’t United have a shit CF that moved to Spain and won the golden boot?
Drogba is the main recent(ish) standout of a striker starting slowly and becoming top tier
At least in terms of scoring goals.
If I remember rightly he was playing well and contributing from the beginning
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