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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41715.msg1168210#msg1168210 date=1283294899]
Rafa Benitez
Javier Mascherano
Yossi Benayoun
Emiliano Insua
Albert Riera
Alberto Aquilani
Lauri Dalla valle
Damien Plessis
Nabir El Zhar
Diego Cavalieri
Alex Kacaniklic
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Mascherano aside im not one bit disappointed the rest are gone. Would have been nice if Aqua proved people wrong, but he didnt so fuck it! Mascher wanted to go so we were resigned to losing him anyway.
Rafa Benitez
Javier Mascherano
Yossi Benayoun
Emiliano Insua
Albert Riera
Alberto Aquilani
Lauri Dalla valle
Damien Plessis
Nabir El Zhar
Diego Cavalieri
Alex Kacaniklic
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Mascherano aside im not one bit disappointed the rest are gone. Would have been nice if Aqua proved people wrong, but he didnt so fuck it! Mascher wanted to go so we were resigned to losing him anyway.
I wish we still had Riera and Mascherano.
Only Mascher on that list leaves me with regret. Although he was never going to stay and was a cunt for acting like he did etc etc.
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I NO have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41715.msg1168292#msg1168292 date=1283323682]
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
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Roy must have seen him quite a bit as he was manager for Finland a couple of years back?
Well prospective superstars will never be worth a mediocre leftback anyway..... 8)
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
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Roy must have seen him quite a bit as he was manager for Finland a couple of years back?
Well prospective superstars will never be worth a mediocre leftback anyway..... 8)
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the_khl
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[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41715.msg1168292#msg1168292 date=1283323682]
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
[/quote]
Dalle Valle leaving came as a surprise to me as well although admittedly I never thought he looked that good for the Reserves.
This is how I reckon our strikers are ranked today:
Fernando Torres (a mile ahead)
David N'Gog
Ryan Babel
Dirk Kuyt
Nathan Eccleston?
Nikola Saric?
Unless one of the youngsters are suddenly becoming a crazy hot goalmachine then once again it's all about Torres.
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
[/quote]
Dalle Valle leaving came as a surprise to me as well although admittedly I never thought he looked that good for the Reserves.
This is how I reckon our strikers are ranked today:
Fernando Torres (a mile ahead)
David N'Gog
Ryan Babel
Dirk Kuyt
Nathan Eccleston?
Nikola Saric?
Unless one of the youngsters are suddenly becoming a crazy hot goalmachine then once again it's all about Torres.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41715.msg1168330#msg1168330 date=1283327289]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41715.msg1168292#msg1168292 date=1283323682]
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
[/quote]
Dalle Valle leaving came as a surprise to me as well although admittedly I never thought he looked that good for the Reserves.
This is how I reckon our strikers are ranked today:
Fernando Torres (a mile ahead)
David N'Gog
Ryan Babel
Dirk Kuyt
Nathan Eccleston?
Nikola Saric?
Unless one of the youngsters are suddenly becoming a crazy hot goalmachine then once again it's all about Torres.
[/quote]
I reckon Babel is a better finisher than N'gog, n'gog just has the work rate. I'd rather try babel for a couple of games over n'gog
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41715.msg1168292#msg1168292 date=1283323682]
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
[/quote]
Dalle Valle leaving came as a surprise to me as well although admittedly I never thought he looked that good for the Reserves.
This is how I reckon our strikers are ranked today:
Fernando Torres (a mile ahead)
David N'Gog
Ryan Babel
Dirk Kuyt
Nathan Eccleston?
Nikola Saric?
Unless one of the youngsters are suddenly becoming a crazy hot goalmachine then once again it's all about Torres.
[/quote]
I reckon Babel is a better finisher than N'gog, n'gog just has the work rate. I'd rather try babel for a couple of games over n'gog
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the_khl
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41715.msg1168332#msg1168332 date=1283327415]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41715.msg1168330#msg1168330 date=1283327289]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41715.msg1168292#msg1168292 date=1283323682]
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
[/quote]
Dalle Valle leaving came as a surprise to me as well although admittedly I never thought he looked that good for the Reserves.
This is how I reckon our strikers are ranked today:
Fernando Torres (a mile ahead)
David N'Gog
Ryan Babel
Dirk Kuyt
Nathan Eccleston?
Nikola Saric?
Unless one of the youngsters are suddenly becoming a crazy hot goalmachine then once again it's all about Torres.
[/quote]
I reckon Babel is a better finisher than N'gog, n'gog just has the work rate. I'd rather try babel for a couple of games over n'gog
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I'm not saying I disagree actually bit I do think NGog has started this Season quite well.
PS Completely forgot about Jovanovic I'm just not sure he's a striker at all.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41715.msg1168330#msg1168330 date=1283327289]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41715.msg1168292#msg1168292 date=1283323682]
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
[/quote]
Dalle Valle leaving came as a surprise to me as well although admittedly I never thought he looked that good for the Reserves.
This is how I reckon our strikers are ranked today:
Fernando Torres (a mile ahead)
David N'Gog
Ryan Babel
Dirk Kuyt
Nathan Eccleston?
Nikola Saric?
Unless one of the youngsters are suddenly becoming a crazy hot goalmachine then once again it's all about Torres.
[/quote]
I reckon Babel is a better finisher than N'gog, n'gog just has the work rate. I'd rather try babel for a couple of games over n'gog
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I'm not saying I disagree actually bit I do think NGog has started this Season quite well.
PS Completely forgot about Jovanovic I'm just not sure he's a striker at all.
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41715.msg1168332#msg1168332 date=1283327415]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41715.msg1168330#msg1168330 date=1283327289]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41715.msg1168292#msg1168292 date=1283323682]
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
[/quote]
Dalle Valle leaving came as a surprise to me as well although admittedly I never thought he looked that good for the Reserves.
This is how I reckon our strikers are ranked today:
Fernando Torres (a mile ahead)
David N'Gog
Ryan Babel
Dirk Kuyt
Nathan Eccleston?
Nikola Saric?
Unless one of the youngsters are suddenly becoming a crazy hot goalmachine then once again it's all about Torres.
[/quote]
I reckon Babel is a better finisher than N'gog, n'gog just has the work rate. I'd rather try babel for a couple of games over n'gog
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that finish from babel in europe was pretty darn clinical
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41715.msg1168330#msg1168330 date=1283327289]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41715.msg1168292#msg1168292 date=1283323682]
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
[/quote]
Dalle Valle leaving came as a surprise to me as well although admittedly I never thought he looked that good for the Reserves.
This is how I reckon our strikers are ranked today:
Fernando Torres (a mile ahead)
David N'Gog
Ryan Babel
Dirk Kuyt
Nathan Eccleston?
Nikola Saric?
Unless one of the youngsters are suddenly becoming a crazy hot goalmachine then once again it's all about Torres.
[/quote]
I reckon Babel is a better finisher than N'gog, n'gog just has the work rate. I'd rather try babel for a couple of games over n'gog
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that finish from babel in europe was pretty darn clinical
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41715.msg1168334#msg1168334 date=1283327510]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41715.msg1168332#msg1168332 date=1283327415]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41715.msg1168330#msg1168330 date=1283327289]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41715.msg1168292#msg1168292 date=1283323682]
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
[/quote]
Dalle Valle leaving came as a surprise to me as well although admittedly I never thought he looked that good for the Reserves.
This is how I reckon our strikers are ranked today:
Fernando Torres (a mile ahead)
David N'Gog
Ryan Babel
Dirk Kuyt
Nathan Eccleston?
Nikola Saric?
Unless one of the youngsters are suddenly becoming a crazy hot goalmachine then once again it's all about Torres.
[/quote]
I reckon Babel is a better finisher than N'gog, n'gog just has the work rate. I'd rather try babel for a couple of games over n'gog
[/quote]
I'm not saying I disagree actually bit I do think NGog has started this Season quite well.
PS Completely forgot about Jovanovic I'm just not sure he's a striker at all.
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oh don't get me wrong khl i think n'gog has started in fine form, but i think it's just that, current form. I wonder if he can hit a barn door in 2 months time when we might need him. Whenever babel has played he tends not to be overly wasteful with his chances, more often than not hitting the target.
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41715.msg1168332#msg1168332 date=1283327415]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41715.msg1168330#msg1168330 date=1283327289]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41715.msg1168292#msg1168292 date=1283323682]
I'm suprised that we allowed Da La Valle to leave. The rest I don't have a problem with. Mascherano didn't want to be here so I have regrets with him leaving. Aquilani turned out to be a luxury that we couldn't afford despite glimses of his class. I liked the balance that Riera offered the team but he was a tit.
I would like to know how much we saved with all the players leaving.
[/quote]
Dalle Valle leaving came as a surprise to me as well although admittedly I never thought he looked that good for the Reserves.
This is how I reckon our strikers are ranked today:
Fernando Torres (a mile ahead)
David N'Gog
Ryan Babel
Dirk Kuyt
Nathan Eccleston?
Nikola Saric?
Unless one of the youngsters are suddenly becoming a crazy hot goalmachine then once again it's all about Torres.
[/quote]
I reckon Babel is a better finisher than N'gog, n'gog just has the work rate. I'd rather try babel for a couple of games over n'gog
[/quote]
I'm not saying I disagree actually bit I do think NGog has started this Season quite well.
PS Completely forgot about Jovanovic I'm just not sure he's a striker at all.
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oh don't get me wrong khl i think n'gog has started in fine form, but i think it's just that, current form. I wonder if he can hit a barn door in 2 months time when we might need him. Whenever babel has played he tends not to be overly wasteful with his chances, more often than not hitting the target.
Kuyt: (Mostly from right wing) is a 1 in 3.5 - 1 in 4
LFC league games/goals: 144 / 36
Total LFC games/goals: 204 / 52
Babel: (mostly from left wing) is well not very good 1 in 8 - 1 in 5
LFC league games/goals: 84 / 11
Total LFC games/goals: 133 / 21
N'Gog (mostly as out and out Striker) is 1 in 4.2 - 1 in 4.2
LFC league games/goals: 40 / 8
Total LFC games/goals: 62 / 15
Of course this is all statistics 🙂
LFC league games/goals: 144 / 36
Total LFC games/goals: 204 / 52
Babel: (mostly from left wing) is well not very good 1 in 8 - 1 in 5
LFC league games/goals: 84 / 11
Total LFC games/goals: 133 / 21
N'Gog (mostly as out and out Striker) is 1 in 4.2 - 1 in 4.2
LFC league games/goals: 40 / 8
Total LFC games/goals: 62 / 15
Of course this is all statistics 🙂
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=41715.msg1168342#msg1168342 date=1283328214]
Kuyt: (Mostly from right wing) is a 1 in 3.5 - 1 in 4
LFC league games/goals: 144 / 36
Total LFC games/goals: 204 / 52
Babel: (mostly from left wing) is well not very good 1 in 8 - 1 in 5
LFC league games/goals: 84 / 11
Total LFC games/goals: 133 / 21
N'Gog (mostly as out and out Striker) is 1 in 4.2 - 1 in 4.2
LFC league games/goals: 40 / 8
Total LFC games/goals: 62 / 15
Of course this is all statistics 🙂
[/quote]
Good old statistics. Remove context from fact and you're left with statistics
Kuyt: (Mostly from right wing) is a 1 in 3.5 - 1 in 4
LFC league games/goals: 144 / 36
Total LFC games/goals: 204 / 52
Babel: (mostly from left wing) is well not very good 1 in 8 - 1 in 5
LFC league games/goals: 84 / 11
Total LFC games/goals: 133 / 21
N'Gog (mostly as out and out Striker) is 1 in 4.2 - 1 in 4.2
LFC league games/goals: 40 / 8
Total LFC games/goals: 62 / 15
Of course this is all statistics 🙂
[/quote]
Good old statistics. Remove context from fact and you're left with statistics
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=41715.msg1168342#msg1168342 date=1283328214]
Kuyt: (Mostly from right wing) is a 1 in 3.5 - 1 in 4
LFC league games/goals: 144 / 36
Total LFC games/goals: 204 / 52
Babel: (mostly from left wing) is well not very good 1 in 8 - 1 in 5
LFC league games/goals: 84 / 11
Total LFC games/goals: 133 / 21
N'Gog (mostly as out and out Striker) is 1 in 4.2 - 1 in 4.2
LFC league games/goals: 40 / 8
Total LFC games/goals: 62 / 15
Of course this is all statistics 🙂
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There should be enough in all that lot to be a back-up especially when you add in goals from Gerrard, Cole, Jovanovic etc.
It's all about Torres' fitness and whether the new medical team can get him out there for 30+ games.
Kuyt: (Mostly from right wing) is a 1 in 3.5 - 1 in 4
LFC league games/goals: 144 / 36
Total LFC games/goals: 204 / 52
Babel: (mostly from left wing) is well not very good 1 in 8 - 1 in 5
LFC league games/goals: 84 / 11
Total LFC games/goals: 133 / 21
N'Gog (mostly as out and out Striker) is 1 in 4.2 - 1 in 4.2
LFC league games/goals: 40 / 8
Total LFC games/goals: 62 / 15
Of course this is all statistics 🙂
[/quote]
There should be enough in all that lot to be a back-up especially when you add in goals from Gerrard, Cole, Jovanovic etc.
It's all about Torres' fitness and whether the new medical team can get him out there for 30+ games.
Kuyt may have superior stastistics but often plays a full 90 whereas Babel and N'Gog rarely have in their LFC careers..
In regards to the original post I'm glad we've got rid of most of the deadwood..
In regards to the original post I'm glad we've got rid of most of the deadwood..
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=41715.msg1168342#msg1168342 date=1283328214]
Kuyt: (Mostly from right wing) is a 1 in 3.5 - 1 in 4
LFC league games/goals: 144 / 36
Total LFC games/goals: 204 / 52
Babel: (mostly from left wing) is well not very good 1 in 8 - 1 in 5
LFC league games/goals: 84 / 11
Total LFC games/goals: 133 / 21
N'Gog (mostly as out and out Striker) is 1 in 4.2 - 1 in 4.2
LFC league games/goals: 40 / 8
Total LFC games/goals: 62 / 15
Of course this is all statistics 🙂
[/quote]
to be fair to babel how many of those games listed has he started? for instance against man city he was given 15 mins.
Kuyt: (Mostly from right wing) is a 1 in 3.5 - 1 in 4
LFC league games/goals: 144 / 36
Total LFC games/goals: 204 / 52
Babel: (mostly from left wing) is well not very good 1 in 8 - 1 in 5
LFC league games/goals: 84 / 11
Total LFC games/goals: 133 / 21
N'Gog (mostly as out and out Striker) is 1 in 4.2 - 1 in 4.2
LFC league games/goals: 40 / 8
Total LFC games/goals: 62 / 15
Of course this is all statistics 🙂
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to be fair to babel how many of those games listed has he started? for instance against man city he was given 15 mins.
Yeah, the only rotting log still floating around Melwood stinking the place up is Lucarse, and hopefully recent events will have let him know exactly where he stands (floats) these days.
I still don't like Eggnog. And the jury is very much out on Poulsen.
Other than that, pretty pleased with the exodus, but as I said, the player I mentioned earlier still HAS to go.
I still don't like Eggnog. And the jury is very much out on Poulsen.
Other than that, pretty pleased with the exodus, but as I said, the player I mentioned earlier still HAS to go.
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Squiggles
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I'd rather have kept Riera and Aquilani.
£4M that bought in this season. From a footballing perspective it really can't be justified.
£4M that bought in this season. From a footballing perspective it really can't be justified.
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the_khl
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41715.msg1168490#msg1168490 date=1283338225]
I'd rather have kept Riera and Aquilani.
£4M that bought in this season. From a footballing perspective it really can't be justified.
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Aquilani perhaps but only because we'll never really know what we're missing out on.
Riera I'm not arsed about one bit.
I'd rather have kept Riera and Aquilani.
£4M that bought in this season. From a footballing perspective it really can't be justified.
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Aquilani perhaps but only because we'll never really know what we're missing out on.
Riera I'm not arsed about one bit.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41715.msg1168490#msg1168490 date=1283338225]
I'd rather have kept Riera and Aquilani.
£4M that bought in this season. From a footballing perspective it really can't be justified.
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Riera I didn't mind but not that fussed that he has gone really
Aquilani I was glad to see the back of.
I'd rather have kept Riera and Aquilani.
£4M that bought in this season. From a footballing perspective it really can't be justified.
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Riera I didn't mind but not that fussed that he has gone really
Aquilani I was glad to see the back of.
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Squiggles
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I wasn't glad to see the back of him for no money.
And Riera hasn't been replaced by a better player, IMO.
And Riera hasn't been replaced by a better player, IMO.
Birthdate: 07.07.1984
Birthplace: Rome, Italy
Other clubs: Roma, Triestina (loan), Juventus (loan)
Bought from: Roma
Signed for LFC: £17100000 07.08.2009
International debut: 15.11.2006 vs Turkey
International caps: 11/2
Liverpool debut: 28.10.2009
Last appearance: 05.08.2010
Debut goal: 15.03.2010
Last goal: 29.04.2010
Contract expiry: 2014
LFC league games/goals: 18 / 1
Total LFC games/goals: 28 / 2
He needed another go this Season really, to be fair.
Alberto Aquilani- Welcome to Liverpool FC Compilation
Birthplace: Rome, Italy
Other clubs: Roma, Triestina (loan), Juventus (loan)
Bought from: Roma
Signed for LFC: £17100000 07.08.2009
International debut: 15.11.2006 vs Turkey
International caps: 11/2
Liverpool debut: 28.10.2009
Last appearance: 05.08.2010
Debut goal: 15.03.2010
Last goal: 29.04.2010
Contract expiry: 2014
LFC league games/goals: 18 / 1
Total LFC games/goals: 28 / 2
He needed another go this Season really, to be fair.
Alberto Aquilani- Welcome to Liverpool FC Compilation
Getting a decent fee would have been better of course but only an idiot would pay money for Aquilani. If he can get even slightly fit and play some games in a league that suits him he might fetch some kind of fee next year.
In reality all he was going to be doing here is be injured, maybe come back for a few games where he would probably have struggled with the much more physical Premier league and then got injured again.
In reality all he was going to be doing here is be injured, maybe come back for a few games where he would probably have struggled with the much more physical Premier league and then got injured again.
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