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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36574.msg967386#msg967386 date=1256085825]
Bit fucking shit if you ask me.
Where's the famed support? The 'knowledgable fans'? The actual ' support' when you're in a rut? The recognition that we're badly undermanned, and in need of the oft-declared '12th Man'?
Booing is for cunts.
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Agree! Remember getting smashed 4-1 by Chelsea and the fans drowning the stadium with "You'll never walk alone"? That was the Liverpool approach - no booing whatsoever. Having said that, this time it reminded me of the last part of GH's reign when the fans had lost patience. Whether it's just the mentality of the players he buys or the mentality he instills before they play, our team currently wants to start slow and with a defensive priority. We gave the league a kick last season when that approach was largely abandoned - but we're back to it now.
I totally agree that we're struggling with injury just now though the back line has largely been available. To this point I would say there's been a recognition that the team is struggling with injury and so not at it's best. The problem is that Lyon were far from good - I thought they were really poor actually; nothing like the team that just got beat by Milan in the CL quarters a couple of seasons ago.
This game was there to be won easily and Lyon didn't look like they thought they could win. But we played to a formula rather than playing what was in front of us and that gave them the opportunity to stay in the game and, ultimately, win it.
I actually go along with the comment Rage made as well; we looked lost for leadership in the 2nd half. Carra wasn't able to do it, Gerrard and Torres weren't there and nobody else looked capable of standing up.
Bit fucking shit if you ask me.
Where's the famed support? The 'knowledgable fans'? The actual ' support' when you're in a rut? The recognition that we're badly undermanned, and in need of the oft-declared '12th Man'?
Booing is for cunts.
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Agree! Remember getting smashed 4-1 by Chelsea and the fans drowning the stadium with "You'll never walk alone"? That was the Liverpool approach - no booing whatsoever. Having said that, this time it reminded me of the last part of GH's reign when the fans had lost patience. Whether it's just the mentality of the players he buys or the mentality he instills before they play, our team currently wants to start slow and with a defensive priority. We gave the league a kick last season when that approach was largely abandoned - but we're back to it now.
I totally agree that we're struggling with injury just now though the back line has largely been available. To this point I would say there's been a recognition that the team is struggling with injury and so not at it's best. The problem is that Lyon were far from good - I thought they were really poor actually; nothing like the team that just got beat by Milan in the CL quarters a couple of seasons ago.
This game was there to be won easily and Lyon didn't look like they thought they could win. But we played to a formula rather than playing what was in front of us and that gave them the opportunity to stay in the game and, ultimately, win it.
I actually go along with the comment Rage made as well; we looked lost for leadership in the 2nd half. Carra wasn't able to do it, Gerrard and Torres weren't there and nobody else looked capable of standing up.
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[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=36574.msg967427#msg967427 date=1256095796]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36574.msg967386#msg967386 date=1256085825]
Bit fucking shit if you ask me.
Where's the famed support? The 'knowledgable fans'? The actual ' support' when you're in a rut? The recognition that we're badly undermanned, and in need of the oft-declared '12th Man'?
Booing is for cunts.
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Agree! Remember getting smashed 4-1 by Chelsea and the fans drowning the stadium with "You'll never walk alone"? That was the Liverpool approach - no booing whatsoever. Having said that, this time it reminded me of the last part of GH's reign when the fans had lost patience. Whether it's just the mentality of the players he buys or the mentality he instills before they play, our team currently wants to start slow and with a defensive priority. We gave the league a kick last season when that approach was largely abandoned - but we're back to it now.
I totally agree that we're struggling with injury just now though the back line has largely been available. To this point I would say there's been a recognition that the team is struggling with injury and so not at it's best. The problem is that Lyon were far from good - I thought they were really poor actually; nothing like the team that just got beat by Milan in the CL quarters a couple of seasons ago.
This game was there to be won easily and Lyon didn't look like they thought they could win. But we played to a formula rather than playing what was in front of us and that gave them the opportunity to stay in the game and, ultimately, win it.
I actually go along with the comment Rage made as well; we looked lost for leadership in the 2nd half. Carra wasn't able to do it, Gerrard and Torres weren't there and nobody else looked capable of standing up.
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Re the bit in bold - I mentioned in another thread that the margins are thin mate. Aurelio's header goes in, and at 2-0 it's game over.
We lose to Sunderland via a beachball, and everybody's up in arms. United were playing equally shite against Sunderland, and contrived to scrape a point off a fluke own goal. The lines are often that fine.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36574.msg967386#msg967386 date=1256085825]
Bit fucking shit if you ask me.
Where's the famed support? The 'knowledgable fans'? The actual ' support' when you're in a rut? The recognition that we're badly undermanned, and in need of the oft-declared '12th Man'?
Booing is for cunts.
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Agree! Remember getting smashed 4-1 by Chelsea and the fans drowning the stadium with "You'll never walk alone"? That was the Liverpool approach - no booing whatsoever. Having said that, this time it reminded me of the last part of GH's reign when the fans had lost patience. Whether it's just the mentality of the players he buys or the mentality he instills before they play, our team currently wants to start slow and with a defensive priority. We gave the league a kick last season when that approach was largely abandoned - but we're back to it now.
I totally agree that we're struggling with injury just now though the back line has largely been available. To this point I would say there's been a recognition that the team is struggling with injury and so not at it's best. The problem is that Lyon were far from good - I thought they were really poor actually; nothing like the team that just got beat by Milan in the CL quarters a couple of seasons ago.
This game was there to be won easily and Lyon didn't look like they thought they could win. But we played to a formula rather than playing what was in front of us and that gave them the opportunity to stay in the game and, ultimately, win it.
I actually go along with the comment Rage made as well; we looked lost for leadership in the 2nd half. Carra wasn't able to do it, Gerrard and Torres weren't there and nobody else looked capable of standing up.
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Re the bit in bold - I mentioned in another thread that the margins are thin mate. Aurelio's header goes in, and at 2-0 it's game over.
We lose to Sunderland via a beachball, and everybody's up in arms. United were playing equally shite against Sunderland, and contrived to scrape a point off a fluke own goal. The lines are often that fine.
You have to create your own luck...
And that luck will go very often against you if you're an over cautious team that prefers not to lose instead of wining.
You sound like Houiller and so does Rafa, as I said many times their reign is very similar.
Only cautious and under-pressure managers talk about how unlucky their teams are.
Ferguson and Mourinho's teams are always lucky, Houiller and Rafas are always unlucky and walking on a fine line...
Coincidence?
And that luck will go very often against you if you're an over cautious team that prefers not to lose instead of wining.
You sound like Houiller and so does Rafa, as I said many times their reign is very similar.
Only cautious and under-pressure managers talk about how unlucky their teams are.
Ferguson and Mourinho's teams are always lucky, Houiller and Rafas are always unlucky and walking on a fine line...
Coincidence?
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=36574.msg967437#msg967437 date=1256097858]
You have to create your own luck...
And that luck will go very often against you if you're an over cautious team that prefers not to lose instead of wining.
You sound like Houiller and so does Rafa, as I said many times their reign is very similar.
Only cautious and under-pressure managers talk about how unlucky their teams are.
Ferguson and Mourinho's teams are always lucky, Houiller and Rafas are always unlucky and walking on a fine line...
Coincidence?
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You're more irritating that gonorrhoea.
We scored more goals than any other team last season, and have scored more goals than anyone in the league this season too.
Here's an online dictionary - www.thefreedictionary.com - look up the meaning of 'cautious' you dumb fuck.
You have to create your own luck...
And that luck will go very often against you if you're an over cautious team that prefers not to lose instead of wining.
You sound like Houiller and so does Rafa, as I said many times their reign is very similar.
Only cautious and under-pressure managers talk about how unlucky their teams are.
Ferguson and Mourinho's teams are always lucky, Houiller and Rafas are always unlucky and walking on a fine line...
Coincidence?
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You're more irritating that gonorrhoea.
We scored more goals than any other team last season, and have scored more goals than anyone in the league this season too.
Here's an online dictionary - www.thefreedictionary.com - look up the meaning of 'cautious' you dumb fuck.
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=36574.msg967437#msg967437 date=1256097858]
You have to create your own luck...
And that luck will go very often against you if you're an over cautious team that prefers not to lose instead of wining.
You sound like Houiller and so does Rafa, as I said many times their reign is very similar.
Only cautious and under-pressure managers talk about how unlucky their teams are.
Ferguson and Mourinho's teams are always lucky, Houiller and Rafas are always unlucky and walking on a fine line...
Coincidence?
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Yes there's a coincidence, it's that whenever any manager fails, they get compared to the failure of the previous, the same way that idiots compare any intractable war america involves itself in to vietnam. The fact that there is a lazy obvious comparison to make, which by the way, was made every single one of Rafa's seasons in charge, including last year, doesn't make it a valid comparison. It just makes you an idiot.
And you are bringing it up now? Because yes, we should have thrown caution to the wind against a good attacking team with our makeshift squad.
Rafa proved he isn't essentially conservative, last season, the way we've played this season hasn't been essentially conservative either.
Mourinho was never cautious? Ferguson wasn't cautious? How many 1-0s propelled both of those teams to titles. Our issue at present isn't attitudinal, it's that we don't have the defensive ability that either of those teams have, and we don't have the defensive ability that has propelled us to all our best results in the past. That has allowed a lot of doubt to creep into our play, which is magnified immensely when our team is gutted by injury, because our squad is thin.
You have to create your own luck...
And that luck will go very often against you if you're an over cautious team that prefers not to lose instead of wining.
You sound like Houiller and so does Rafa, as I said many times their reign is very similar.
Only cautious and under-pressure managers talk about how unlucky their teams are.
Ferguson and Mourinho's teams are always lucky, Houiller and Rafas are always unlucky and walking on a fine line...
Coincidence?
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Yes there's a coincidence, it's that whenever any manager fails, they get compared to the failure of the previous, the same way that idiots compare any intractable war america involves itself in to vietnam. The fact that there is a lazy obvious comparison to make, which by the way, was made every single one of Rafa's seasons in charge, including last year, doesn't make it a valid comparison. It just makes you an idiot.
And you are bringing it up now? Because yes, we should have thrown caution to the wind against a good attacking team with our makeshift squad.
Rafa proved he isn't essentially conservative, last season, the way we've played this season hasn't been essentially conservative either.
Mourinho was never cautious? Ferguson wasn't cautious? How many 1-0s propelled both of those teams to titles. Our issue at present isn't attitudinal, it's that we don't have the defensive ability that either of those teams have, and we don't have the defensive ability that has propelled us to all our best results in the past. That has allowed a lot of doubt to creep into our play, which is magnified immensely when our team is gutted by injury, because our squad is thin.
It pains me to see our fans losing hope to an extent where they need to do that. I was disappointed with the Yossi sub, and livid at the end - but I would have never booed. This team WILL bounce back. The season starts Sunday.
Oh, and no more Farkie/Ryan tag teams vs Lech ok? That's just not fair.
Oh, and no more Farkie/Ryan tag teams vs Lech ok? That's just not fair.
liverpool have shown themselves capable of digging themselves out of tight holes more than once you'd think they'd earned themselves the benefit of the doubt. obviously not.
Not condoning the booing, but I think frustration and a bit of despair is the reason
We look pretty poor, we have several poor players, and we won't challenge for the title or Europe unless Purple Aqui actually is Superman
It's somewhat churlish to apportion blame to any one player, given how badly we are playing in general against any sort of OK team, but lucas really is a fucking useless cunt and I hate him to the point of distraction
We look pretty poor, we have several poor players, and we won't challenge for the title or Europe unless Purple Aqui actually is Superman
It's somewhat churlish to apportion blame to any one player, given how badly we are playing in general against any sort of OK team, but lucas really is a fucking useless cunt and I hate him to the point of distraction
Yeah, booing is never really on, especially when it's aimed at individuals too, but I guess there's only really one way of fans venting their frustrations at the game, and it could prove a bit of a wake up call. I doubt it'll turn our paper thin squad around, but anyway.
That said, it's not good booing when your team is made up of a couple of young lads too, they need all the encouragement they can get under the current climate at the club.
That said, it's not good booing when your team is made up of a couple of young lads too, they need all the encouragement they can get under the current climate at the club.
Kelly was about the only real highlight
Eggnog was horrific and can fuck off, he is useless
And we really do need a quality left-back
And left-midfielder
And striker
And midfielder
Oh forget it
Eggnog was horrific and can fuck off, he is useless
And we really do need a quality left-back
And left-midfielder
And striker
And midfielder
Oh forget it
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=36574.msg967468#msg967468 date=1256107734]
Yeah, booing is never really on, especially when it's aimed at individuals too, but I guess there's only really one way of fans venting their frustrations at the game, and it could prove a bit of a wake up call. I doubt it'll turn our paper thin squad around, but anyway.
That said, it's not good booing when your team is made up of a couple of young lads too, they need all the encouragement they can get under the current climate at the club.
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I think it shows how fickle the supporters have become these days. And moreover there are loads of fans these days who want to support 'winning teams'. If the team doesn't win they start booing or supporting Chelsea or United.
Yeah, booing is never really on, especially when it's aimed at individuals too, but I guess there's only really one way of fans venting their frustrations at the game, and it could prove a bit of a wake up call. I doubt it'll turn our paper thin squad around, but anyway.
That said, it's not good booing when your team is made up of a couple of young lads too, they need all the encouragement they can get under the current climate at the club.
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I think it shows how fickle the supporters have become these days. And moreover there are loads of fans these days who want to support 'winning teams'. If the team doesn't win they start booing or supporting Chelsea or United.
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Or it could be the first time they've witnessed four straight defeats in their life-time.
And no Liverpool supporter I know has ever switched allegiance to Chelsea or United.
And no Liverpool supporter I know has ever switched allegiance to Chelsea or United.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=36574.msg967473#msg967473 date=1256108850]
Or it could be the first time they've witnessed four straight defeats in their life-time.
And no Liverpool supporter I know has ever switched allegiance to Chelsea or United.
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I didn't mean Liverpool supporters in particular. It's more of a general phenomenon.
Or it could be the first time they've witnessed four straight defeats in their life-time.
And no Liverpool supporter I know has ever switched allegiance to Chelsea or United.
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I didn't mean Liverpool supporters in particular. It's more of a general phenomenon.
I was at the match and I did not notice any booing, so it can't have been that many people. There was a spontaneous outbreak of justified anger when Rafa took off Benayoun and brought on Voronin with about 10 minutes to go. It was one of those incomprehensible decisions that Rafa takes so often, and which make me wonder if he really knows what he is doing.
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=36574.msg967423#msg967423 date=1256094866]
well when we play at home and that fat fuck benitez takes off benayoun instead of lucas.. and leaves babel on the bench and makes his substitutions in the 85th minute when we need to go and get 3points you can hardly blame them..
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Fuck off Zlatan you prick.
well when we play at home and that fat fuck benitez takes off benayoun instead of lucas.. and leaves babel on the bench and makes his substitutions in the 85th minute when we need to go and get 3points you can hardly blame them..
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Fuck off Zlatan you prick.
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[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=36574.msg967423#msg967423 date=1256094866]
well when we play at home and that fat fuck benitez takes off benayoun instead of lucas.. and leaves babel on the bench and makes his substitutions in the 85th minute when we need to go and get 3points you can hardly blame them..
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Fuck off Zlatan you prick.
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I don't fucking care if he brought titus fucking bramble and put him in goal against the mancs. You do NOT boo your own fucking team. Anyone who booed is a cunt. Yossi may provide a spark but last night besides the goal he was disjointed and wasted possession. Babel has consistently let us down when he's played recently.
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=36574.msg967423#msg967423 date=1256094866]
well when we play at home and that fat fuck benitez takes off benayoun instead of lucas.. and leaves babel on the bench and makes his substitutions in the 85th minute when we need to go and get 3points you can hardly blame them..
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Fuck off Zlatan you prick.
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I don't fucking care if he brought titus fucking bramble and put him in goal against the mancs. You do NOT boo your own fucking team. Anyone who booed is a cunt. Yossi may provide a spark but last night besides the goal he was disjointed and wasted possession. Babel has consistently let us down when he's played recently.
[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=36574.msg967569#msg967569 date=1256117461]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=36574.msg967479#msg967479 date=1256109893]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=36574.msg967423#msg967423 date=1256094866]
well when we play at home and that fat fuck benitez takes off benayoun instead of lucas.. and leaves babel on the bench and makes his substitutions in the 85th minute when we need to go and get 3points you can hardly blame them..
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Fuck off Zlatan you prick.
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I don't fucking care if he brought titus fucking bramble and put him in goal against the mancs. You do NOT boo your own fucking team. Anyone who booed is a cunt. Yossi may provide a spark but last night besides the goal he was disjointed and wasted possession. Babel has consistently let us down when he's played recently.
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People have a right to voice their disapproval when decisions are taken that dont really make any sense. I dont approve of booing normally but we are all human and frustrations at times do come to the fore.
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=36574.msg967479#msg967479 date=1256109893]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=36574.msg967423#msg967423 date=1256094866]
well when we play at home and that fat fuck benitez takes off benayoun instead of lucas.. and leaves babel on the bench and makes his substitutions in the 85th minute when we need to go and get 3points you can hardly blame them..
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Fuck off Zlatan you prick.
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I don't fucking care if he brought titus fucking bramble and put him in goal against the mancs. You do NOT boo your own fucking team. Anyone who booed is a cunt. Yossi may provide a spark but last night besides the goal he was disjointed and wasted possession. Babel has consistently let us down when he's played recently.
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People have a right to voice their disapproval when decisions are taken that dont really make any sense. I dont approve of booing normally but we are all human and frustrations at times do come to the fore.
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[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=36574.msg967437#msg967437 date=1256097858]
You have to create your own luck...
And that luck will go very often against you if you're an over cautious team that prefers not to lose instead of wining.
You sound like Houiller and so does Rafa, as I said many times their reign is very similar.
Only cautious and under-pressure managers talk about how unlucky their teams are.
Ferguson and Mourinho's teams are always lucky, Houiller and Rafas are always unlucky and walking on a fine line...
Coincidence?
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You're more irritating that gonorrhoea.
We scored more goals than any other team last season, and have scored more goals than anyone in the league this season too.
Here's an online dictionary - www.thefreedictionary.com - look up the meaning of 'cautious' you dumb fuck.
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wow what a knob you are sometimes, the amount of goals you score in total for the entire season has fuck all to do with whether you are cautious in some games, we were too cautious in some games last season everyone knows that even folk like you. We scored shit loads of goals in some games banging 4,5 or 6 past some then could not score for fucking toffee in alot of games, that cost us the league.
Check the amount of games we scored ZERO in compared to our rivals you monkey
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=36574.msg967437#msg967437 date=1256097858]
You have to create your own luck...
And that luck will go very often against you if you're an over cautious team that prefers not to lose instead of wining.
You sound like Houiller and so does Rafa, as I said many times their reign is very similar.
Only cautious and under-pressure managers talk about how unlucky their teams are.
Ferguson and Mourinho's teams are always lucky, Houiller and Rafas are always unlucky and walking on a fine line...
Coincidence?
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You're more irritating that gonorrhoea.
We scored more goals than any other team last season, and have scored more goals than anyone in the league this season too.
Here's an online dictionary - www.thefreedictionary.com - look up the meaning of 'cautious' you dumb fuck.
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wow what a knob you are sometimes, the amount of goals you score in total for the entire season has fuck all to do with whether you are cautious in some games, we were too cautious in some games last season everyone knows that even folk like you. We scored shit loads of goals in some games banging 4,5 or 6 past some then could not score for fucking toffee in alot of games, that cost us the league.
Check the amount of games we scored ZERO in compared to our rivals you monkey
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[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=36574.msg967569#msg967569 date=1256117461]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=36574.msg967479#msg967479 date=1256109893]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=36574.msg967423#msg967423 date=1256094866]
well when we play at home and that fat fuck benitez takes off benayoun instead of lucas.. and leaves babel on the bench and makes his substitutions in the 85th minute when we need to go and get 3points you can hardly blame them..
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Fuck off Zlatan you prick.
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I don't fucking care if he brought titus fucking bramble and put him in goal against the mancs. You do NOT boo your own fucking team. Anyone who booed is a cunt. Yossi may provide a spark but last night besides the goal he was disjointed and wasted possession. Babel has consistently let us down when he's played recently.
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People have a right to voice their disapproval when decisions are taken that dont really make any sense. I dont approve of booing normally but we are all human and frustrations at times do come to the fore.
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A supposed Liverpool fan referring to our manager as a "Fat Fuck" is what irked me so much. Zlatan is a cunt.
[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=36574.msg967569#msg967569 date=1256117461]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=36574.msg967479#msg967479 date=1256109893]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=36574.msg967423#msg967423 date=1256094866]
well when we play at home and that fat fuck benitez takes off benayoun instead of lucas.. and leaves babel on the bench and makes his substitutions in the 85th minute when we need to go and get 3points you can hardly blame them..
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Fuck off Zlatan you prick.
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I don't fucking care if he brought titus fucking bramble and put him in goal against the mancs. You do NOT boo your own fucking team. Anyone who booed is a cunt. Yossi may provide a spark but last night besides the goal he was disjointed and wasted possession. Babel has consistently let us down when he's played recently.
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People have a right to voice their disapproval when decisions are taken that dont really make any sense. I dont approve of booing normally but we are all human and frustrations at times do come to the fore.
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A supposed Liverpool fan referring to our manager as a "Fat Fuck" is what irked me so much. Zlatan is a cunt.
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