Gerrrard has excelled where ever we've played him, if it means getting a world class player in, I wouldn't be against moving him. Nor do I think he'd mind.
TEVEZ - definitely not coming to Anfield
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well we'll find out in a week either way.
I think RVN would have signed for us if that option was presented to him. Regardless of his history with the mancs. It's the bit part I think could be the stumbling block. Tbh, a 4-4-2 with Torres and RVN as our strikeforce would be fantastic aswell.
So, he would probably get a number of games throughout the season anyhoo.
1998–2001 PSV Eindhoven 67 (62)
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The man "shits" goals..
So, he would probably get a number of games throughout the season anyhoo.
1998–2001 PSV Eindhoven 67 (62)
2001–2006 Manchester United 150 (95)
2006– Real Madrid 67 (45)
The man "shits" goals..
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At 1.5m price to buy the 90k makes sense to me. You dont get class strikers for that money so it's worth it.
If we'd have had RVN to replace Torres last season we'd have won the league. 90k a week sound expensive now?
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90K is what we pay the likes of Carra. There is no way some ageing squaddie should be on level terms.
It's no longer cheap, which is the main attraction in this particular deal. If the fee was 6M and he was on 40K a week, would people still be interested?
At 1.5m price to buy the 90k makes sense to me. You dont get class strikers for that money so it's worth it.
If we'd have had RVN to replace Torres last season we'd have won the league. 90k a week sound expensive now?
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90K is what we pay the likes of Carra. There is no way some ageing squaddie should be on level terms.
It's no longer cheap, which is the main attraction in this particular deal. If the fee was 6M and he was on 40K a week, would people still be interested?
"some ageing squaddie" Nooo. He may well be an ex-manc & but he's a fantastic striker, & considering the amount of games Torres has missed, that fact he's playing in the confed cup, the amount of matches we have a season he'll be playing a lot of games, & winning them for us too.
90k to have a bench that can change a game, & a replacement for Torres who can play up top on his own & score goals, it's worth it IMO. It could well win us the league too.
90k to have a bench that can change a game, & a replacement for Torres who can play up top on his own & score goals, it's worth it IMO. It could well win us the league too.
City expected to see off Chelsea in battle for United striker Tevez
Carlos Tevez will join Manchester City on a five-year deal next week unless Chelsea match the £130,000-a-week salary on offer at Eastlands.
Tevez quit Manchester United on Saturday after two years at the club and the Argentinian is expected to sign for Mark Hughes’ ambitious side when he returns from a holiday in south America.
City and Chelsea have agreed to pay the £25.5m to secure the striker’s services, but Hughes has inched ahead after offering Tevez a guaranteed starting place in the team.
Although new Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti contacted Tevez last week in an attempt to persuade him that his future is at Stamford Bridge, the player is convinced that City will soon be English football’s dominant force.
It is understood that he is motivated by the prospect of playing for another ‘underdog’, just as he did when he began his career with Boca Juniors in Argentina, before moving to Corinthians in Brazil and then the amazing season when he single-handedly kept West Ham in the Barclays Premier League.
Tevez, 25, has made it clear that he wants to join a club with a history of battling against the odds and City, who have spent decades in the shadows of their great rivals United, fit the bill.
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so it is about money, got to laugh at the spin of going to an 'underdog'
Carlos Tevez will join Manchester City on a five-year deal next week unless Chelsea match the £130,000-a-week salary on offer at Eastlands.
Tevez quit Manchester United on Saturday after two years at the club and the Argentinian is expected to sign for Mark Hughes’ ambitious side when he returns from a holiday in south America.
City and Chelsea have agreed to pay the £25.5m to secure the striker’s services, but Hughes has inched ahead after offering Tevez a guaranteed starting place in the team.
Although new Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti contacted Tevez last week in an attempt to persuade him that his future is at Stamford Bridge, the player is convinced that City will soon be English football’s dominant force.
It is understood that he is motivated by the prospect of playing for another ‘underdog’, just as he did when he began his career with Boca Juniors in Argentina, before moving to Corinthians in Brazil and then the amazing season when he single-handedly kept West Ham in the Barclays Premier League.
Tevez, 25, has made it clear that he wants to join a club with a history of battling against the odds and City, who have spent decades in the shadows of their great rivals United, fit the bill.
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so it is about money, got to laugh at the spin of going to an 'underdog'
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Two league titles and two CL finals in his short time at Utd and he leaves to go to City. Is there any justifying that?
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"Carlos Tevez will join Manchester City on a five-year deal next week unless Chelsea match the £130,000-a-week salary on offer at Eastlands."
Two league titles and two CL finals in his short time at Utd and he leaves to go to City. Is there any justifying that?
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"Carlos Tevez will join Manchester City on a five-year deal next week unless Chelsea match the £130,000-a-week salary on offer at Eastlands."
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Two league titles and two CL finals in his short time at Utd and he leaves to go to City. Is there any justifying that?
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For our amusement?
Two league titles and two CL finals in his short time at Utd and he leaves to go to City. Is there any justifying that?
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For our amusement?
Although money is certainly a motivating factor for Tevez, I think his comments about not feeling wanted enough have some validity. Wasn't he dropped after scoring 4 goals in a league cup match? He's often been played out of position, or subbed in/out of games. Maybe he should just suck it up and buckle down but he has the opportunity to leave and find a club that will soothe his ego. In that respect, City is probably a reasonable choice.
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Two league titles and two CL finals in his short time at Utd and he leaves to go to City. Is there any justifying that?
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Good question, and besides, whatever happened to not wanting to diss the United fans?
I can see signing for Citeh being a big mistake for the big names who do so. When the Chavs signed all those stars they had Mourinho, a master at building team spirit, in charge. Hughes by contrast, despite a decent career beforehand, hasn't impressed anyone at that club so far. It's true that the players in question will have stonking great salaries with which to console themselves, but still, serves 'em right if it all goes belly-up.
Two league titles and two CL finals in his short time at Utd and he leaves to go to City. Is there any justifying that?
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Good question, and besides, whatever happened to not wanting to diss the United fans?
I can see signing for Citeh being a big mistake for the big names who do so. When the Chavs signed all those stars they had Mourinho, a master at building team spirit, in charge. Hughes by contrast, despite a decent career beforehand, hasn't impressed anyone at that club so far. It's true that the players in question will have stonking great salaries with which to console themselves, but still, serves 'em right if it all goes belly-up.
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Not sure exactly where he'd fit in at Chelsea, I don't know the new bosses plans, but they're without doubt the better choice.
Tevez is a mong.
Tevez is a mong.
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[quote author=keniget link=topic=34254.msg892609#msg892609 date=1245626375]
Two league titles and two CL finals in his short time at Utd and he leaves to go to City. Is there any justifying that?
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Good question, and besides, whatever happened to not wanting to diss the United fans?
I can see signing for Citeh being a big mistake for the big names who do so. When the Chavs signed all those stars they had Mourinho, a master at building team spirit, in charge. Hughes by contrast, despite a decent career beforehand, hasn't impressed anyone at that club so far. It's true that the players in question will have stonking great salaries with which to console themselves, but still, serves 'em right if it all goes belly-up.
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they will eventually sack Hughes and hire a class manager. I keep saying it's going to be harder with 5 teams looking to win every week to finish top 3/4, we'd have to be incredibly strong and well prepared to resist the assault and that's why i'd take top 3 every time. it could work out for us in the chase for the title though if a strong City took points off our rivals.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34254.msg892609#msg892609 date=1245626375]
Two league titles and two CL finals in his short time at Utd and he leaves to go to City. Is there any justifying that?
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Good question, and besides, whatever happened to not wanting to diss the United fans?
I can see signing for Citeh being a big mistake for the big names who do so. When the Chavs signed all those stars they had Mourinho, a master at building team spirit, in charge. Hughes by contrast, despite a decent career beforehand, hasn't impressed anyone at that club so far. It's true that the players in question will have stonking great salaries with which to console themselves, but still, serves 'em right if it all goes belly-up.
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they will eventually sack Hughes and hire a class manager. I keep saying it's going to be harder with 5 teams looking to win every week to finish top 3/4, we'd have to be incredibly strong and well prepared to resist the assault and that's why i'd take top 3 every time. it could work out for us in the chase for the title though if a strong City took points off our rivals.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=34254.msg892705#msg892705 date=1245659936]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34254.msg892609#msg892609 date=1245626375]
Two league titles and two CL finals in his short time at Utd and he leaves to go to City. Is there any justifying that?
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Good question, and besides, whatever happened to not wanting to diss the United fans?
I can see signing for Citeh being a big mistake for the big names who do so. When the Chavs signed all those stars they had Mourinho, a master at building team spirit, in charge. Hughes by contrast, despite a decent career beforehand, hasn't impressed anyone at that club so far. It's true that the players in question will have stonking great salaries with which to console themselves, but still, serves 'em right if it all goes belly-up.
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Many of Chelsea's best players were signed when Ranieri was in charge. I don't think we should discount what's possible with an unlimited amount of money. And if City have already got Tevez and Robinho, they'll find it easier and easier to tempt other stars. They may not hit the CL places next season, but if the Arabs stick around and keep spending, they will do it eventually, albeit probably with a different manager.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34254.msg892609#msg892609 date=1245626375]
Two league titles and two CL finals in his short time at Utd and he leaves to go to City. Is there any justifying that?
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Good question, and besides, whatever happened to not wanting to diss the United fans?
I can see signing for Citeh being a big mistake for the big names who do so. When the Chavs signed all those stars they had Mourinho, a master at building team spirit, in charge. Hughes by contrast, despite a decent career beforehand, hasn't impressed anyone at that club so far. It's true that the players in question will have stonking great salaries with which to console themselves, but still, serves 'em right if it all goes belly-up.
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Many of Chelsea's best players were signed when Ranieri was in charge. I don't think we should discount what's possible with an unlimited amount of money. And if City have already got Tevez and Robinho, they'll find it easier and easier to tempt other stars. They may not hit the CL places next season, but if the Arabs stick around and keep spending, they will do it eventually, albeit probably with a different manager.
It's true that a good few of their best players were Ranieri's signings, and of course it's also true that money can take you a long way, but much depends on the regime into which the players are brought IMO. Mourinho brought vital new star names in (they're about to lose one of the most crucial IMO in Carvalho) and then blended them all into a very tight-knit unit. Look at Real's past record to see what happens if you don't have a manager who's as skilled as Mourinho at the craft of team-building.
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