I think all we need is an appearance from Brendan and this thread would fizzle out nicely.
Swingers & swinging...
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[quote author=Asim link=topic=24077.msg589260#msg589260 date=1212690112]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589254#msg589254 date=1212689886]
You can take the piss out of someone's race/religion etc etc without suggesting they are 'lower' than you.
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Of course you can but that is not racism.
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What is it then?
[quote author=Asim link=topic=24077.msg589260#msg589260 date=1212690112]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589254#msg589254 date=1212689886]
You can take the piss out of someone's race/religion etc etc without suggesting they are 'lower' than you.
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Of course you can but that is not racism.
[/quote]
What is it then?
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=24077.msg589261#msg589261 date=1212690136]
I don't like European Courts Ross and I see what both you & foureyes are going on about.
Personally, I've been on the end of one of Evo's anti-semitic jibes but I let it go. I've been on the end of what I deemed were sick attacks on my faith and I've let it go. I don't understand why people get so wound up on here - Roger being an idiot shouldn't have sparked this but perhaps it's given us a good 'forum' to discuss this 'delicate' topic. Fact is that Foureyes is not in the wrong for getting angry and 'hurt', but I think he is when calling Roger a racist. He may make idiotic, insensitive comments at times, but I think that's down more to attention craving than feelings of anger/hatred/racism.
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Exactly.
And thats coming from a f*cking Jew of all people 😉
I don't like European Courts Ross and I see what both you & foureyes are going on about.
Personally, I've been on the end of one of Evo's anti-semitic jibes but I let it go. I've been on the end of what I deemed were sick attacks on my faith and I've let it go. I don't understand why people get so wound up on here - Roger being an idiot shouldn't have sparked this but perhaps it's given us a good 'forum' to discuss this 'delicate' topic. Fact is that Foureyes is not in the wrong for getting angry and 'hurt', but I think he is when calling Roger a racist. He may make idiotic, insensitive comments at times, but I think that's down more to attention craving than feelings of anger/hatred/racism.
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Exactly.
And thats coming from a f*cking Jew of all people 😉
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589330#msg589330 date=1212692399]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589327#msg589327 date=1212692374]
DB you are a cunt.
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An Irish cunt too.
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I bet he found it offensive. But not racist. Problem solved.
This thread is bugging me. If i was to say throw a "Ross please don't throw a spud at me...." or something like that, do you find it racist? NO.
Jesus. Such shite.
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589327#msg589327 date=1212692374]
DB you are a cunt.
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An Irish cunt too.
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I bet he found it offensive. But not racist. Problem solved.
This thread is bugging me. If i was to say throw a "Ross please don't throw a spud at me...." or something like that, do you find it racist? NO.
Jesus. Such shite.
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=24077.msg589339#msg589339 date=1212692652]
Ross, if someone was to call me a darky or a towel head, what would you call it? Are those terms not racially motivated? They don't imply i'm inferior they're just terms of hatred based on my colour. So what would you call it if somebody harassed me with those terms?
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I wore a towel on my head once. Mind you it wasn't racist. It was the Christmas play. I played a Jew.
Ross, if someone was to call me a darky or a towel head, what would you call it? Are those terms not racially motivated? They don't imply i'm inferior they're just terms of hatred based on my colour. So what would you call it if somebody harassed me with those terms?
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I wore a towel on my head once. Mind you it wasn't racist. It was the Christmas play. I played a Jew.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=24077.msg589295#msg589295 date=1212691025]
Anyone got a light?
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I feel your humour deserves recognition.
Hats off to Shieky.
Anyone got a light?
[/quote]
I feel your humour deserves recognition.
Hats off to Shieky.
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=24077.msg589339#msg589339 date=1212692652]
Ross, if someone was to call me a darky or a towel head, what would you call it? Are those terms not racially motivated? They don't imply i'm inferior they're just terms of hatred based on my colour. So what would you call it if somebody harassed me with those terms?
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Darky is a well known disparaging term for a black person. Towelhead is a disparaging term for someone of Arab descent.
Throwing an onion bahji nothing like those two.
Foureyes I'm finished with this thread now, you're the only one who continues to insist the comment was racist. The vast majority (of mixed ethnicities) disagree with you.
Ross, if someone was to call me a darky or a towel head, what would you call it? Are those terms not racially motivated? They don't imply i'm inferior they're just terms of hatred based on my colour. So what would you call it if somebody harassed me with those terms?
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Darky is a well known disparaging term for a black person. Towelhead is a disparaging term for someone of Arab descent.
Throwing an onion bahji nothing like those two.
Foureyes I'm finished with this thread now, you're the only one who continues to insist the comment was racist. The vast majority (of mixed ethnicities) disagree with you.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=24077.msg589315#msg589315 date=1212691932]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589313#msg589313 date=1212691745]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=24077.msg589230#msg589230 date=1212689250]
The first thing that strikes me when reading through, is the fact that Foureyes, for most of the thread has had to justify/explain why he's offended, like it requires a rationalisation.
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Not you too.
Nobody and I mean nobody is questioning his right to be offended. This is about whether or not what was said was racist and it clearly is not.
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Haha, you've said that so many times in this thread and each time it's been ignored, I thought I'd acknowledge this one 😉
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**high fives HC**
I was about to post foureyes post where he said the comment was racist and then paste in every single reply that said it wasn't which includes everyone including Anita LTW and myself who are usually the ones defending the "victim" in threads like this.
This whole thread is nuts.
Its like Errie Indiana or something.
Everyone is ignoring plain straight forward logic.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589313#msg589313 date=1212691745]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=24077.msg589230#msg589230 date=1212689250]
The first thing that strikes me when reading through, is the fact that Foureyes, for most of the thread has had to justify/explain why he's offended, like it requires a rationalisation.
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Not you too.
Nobody and I mean nobody is questioning his right to be offended. This is about whether or not what was said was racist and it clearly is not.
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Haha, you've said that so many times in this thread and each time it's been ignored, I thought I'd acknowledge this one 😉
[/quote]
**high fives HC**
I was about to post foureyes post where he said the comment was racist and then paste in every single reply that said it wasn't which includes everyone including Anita LTW and myself who are usually the ones defending the "victim" in threads like this.
This whole thread is nuts.
Its like Errie Indiana or something.
Everyone is ignoring plain straight forward logic.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589330#msg589330 date=1212692399]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589327#msg589327 date=1212692374]
DB you are a cunt.
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An Irish cunt too.
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Paddy I still love ya.
Ross I doubt you have ever lost a debate in your life.
Legends the pair of ye.
Is it home time yet?
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589327#msg589327 date=1212692374]
DB you are a cunt.
[/quote]
An Irish cunt too.
[/quote]
Paddy I still love ya.
Ross I doubt you have ever lost a debate in your life.
Legends the pair of ye.
Is it home time yet?
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589341#msg589341 date=1212692821]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=24077.msg589295#msg589295 date=1212691025]
Anyone got a light?
[/quote]
I feel your humour deserves recognition.
Hats off to Shieky.
[/quote]
*Forces a smile through charcoaled lips*
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=24077.msg589295#msg589295 date=1212691025]
Anyone got a light?
[/quote]
I feel your humour deserves recognition.
Hats off to Shieky.
[/quote]
*Forces a smile through charcoaled lips*
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589346#msg589346 date=1212693197]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589330#msg589330 date=1212692399]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589327#msg589327 date=1212692374]
DB you are a cunt.
[/quote]
An Irish cunt too.
[/quote]
Paddy I still love ya.
Ross I doubt you have ever lost a debate in your life.
Legends the pair of ye.
Is it home time yet?
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Ryan hated typing like that. He gave out to me once for doing it.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589330#msg589330 date=1212692399]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589327#msg589327 date=1212692374]
DB you are a cunt.
[/quote]
An Irish cunt too.
[/quote]
Paddy I still love ya.
Ross I doubt you have ever lost a debate in your life.
Legends the pair of ye.
Is it home time yet?
[/quote]
Ryan hated typing like that. He gave out to me once for doing it.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589345#msg589345 date=1212693103]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=24077.msg589315#msg589315 date=1212691932]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589313#msg589313 date=1212691745]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=24077.msg589230#msg589230 date=1212689250]
The first thing that strikes me when reading through, is the fact that Foureyes, for most of the thread has had to justify/explain why he's offended, like it requires a rationalisation.
[/quote]
Not you too.
Nobody and I mean nobody is questioning his right to be offended. This is about whether or not what was said was racist and it clearly is not.
[/quote]
Haha, you've said that so many times in this thread and each time it's been ignored, I thought I'd acknowledge this one 😉
[/quote]
**high fives HC**
I was about to post foureyes post where he said the comment was racist and then paste in every single reply that said it wasn't which includes everyone including Anita LTW and myself who are usually the ones defending the "victim" in threads like this.
This whole thread is nuts.
Its like Errie Indiana or something.
Everyone is ignoring plain straight forward logic.
[/quote]
In a nutshell, that shows just how little you really do understand about the whole thing.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=24077.msg589315#msg589315 date=1212691932]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589313#msg589313 date=1212691745]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=24077.msg589230#msg589230 date=1212689250]
The first thing that strikes me when reading through, is the fact that Foureyes, for most of the thread has had to justify/explain why he's offended, like it requires a rationalisation.
[/quote]
Not you too.
Nobody and I mean nobody is questioning his right to be offended. This is about whether or not what was said was racist and it clearly is not.
[/quote]
Haha, you've said that so many times in this thread and each time it's been ignored, I thought I'd acknowledge this one 😉
[/quote]
**high fives HC**
I was about to post foureyes post where he said the comment was racist and then paste in every single reply that said it wasn't which includes everyone including Anita LTW and myself who are usually the ones defending the "victim" in threads like this.
This whole thread is nuts.
Its like Errie Indiana or something.
Everyone is ignoring plain straight forward logic.
[/quote]
In a nutshell, that shows just how little you really do understand about the whole thing.
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=24077.msg589335#msg589335 date=1212692468]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589331#msg589331 date=1212692408]
[quote author=Asim link=topic=24077.msg589260#msg589260 date=1212690112]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589254#msg589254 date=1212689886]
You can take the piss out of someone's race/religion etc etc without suggesting they are 'lower' than you.
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Of course you can but that is not racism.
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What is it then?
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Offensive, it can be racist depending on what is said but in this case asking someone if they throw onions in self defence isn't.
Your intial arguement was that what Rog said was racist.
And there isn't a single person here that agrees with you on this point.
Does that not tell you something?
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589331#msg589331 date=1212692408]
[quote author=Asim link=topic=24077.msg589260#msg589260 date=1212690112]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589254#msg589254 date=1212689886]
You can take the piss out of someone's race/religion etc etc without suggesting they are 'lower' than you.
[/quote]
Of course you can but that is not racism.
[/quote]
What is it then?
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Offensive, it can be racist depending on what is said but in this case asking someone if they throw onions in self defence isn't.
Your intial arguement was that what Rog said was racist.
And there isn't a single person here that agrees with you on this point.
Does that not tell you something?
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589346#msg589346 date=1212693197]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589330#msg589330 date=1212692399]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589327#msg589327 date=1212692374]
DB you are a cunt.
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An Irish cunt too.
[/quote]
Paddy I still love ya.
Ross I doubt you have ever lost a debate in your life.
Legends the pair of ye.
Is it home time yet?
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I'm fairly experienced in debates particulalry en masse ones.
But it's not home time now, I'm off to the pub.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589330#msg589330 date=1212692399]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589327#msg589327 date=1212692374]
DB you are a cunt.
[/quote]
An Irish cunt too.
[/quote]
Paddy I still love ya.
Ross I doubt you have ever lost a debate in your life.
Legends the pair of ye.
Is it home time yet?
[/quote]
I'm fairly experienced in debates particulalry en masse ones.
But it's not home time now, I'm off to the pub.
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589338#msg589338 date=1212692609]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589330#msg589330 date=1212692399]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589327#msg589327 date=1212692374]
DB you are a cunt.
[/quote]
An Irish cunt too.
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I bet he found it offensive. But not racist. Problem solved.
This thread is bugging me. If i was to say throw a "Ross please don't throw a spud at me...." or something like that, do you find it racist? NO.
Jesus. Such shite.
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Damn right. I don't like being called Irish, but I am a cnut!
and your 100% right such shite over nothing imo.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589330#msg589330 date=1212692399]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589327#msg589327 date=1212692374]
DB you are a cunt.
[/quote]
An Irish cunt too.
[/quote]
I bet he found it offensive. But not racist. Problem solved.
This thread is bugging me. If i was to say throw a "Ross please don't throw a spud at me...." or something like that, do you find it racist? NO.
Jesus. Such shite.
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Damn right. I don't like being called Irish, but I am a cnut!
and your 100% right such shite over nothing imo.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589344#msg589344 date=1212693091]
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=24077.msg589339#msg589339 date=1212692652]
Ross, if someone was to call me a darky or a towel head, what would you call it? Are those terms not racially motivated? They don't imply i'm inferior they're just terms of hatred based on my colour. So what would you call it if somebody harassed me with those terms?
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Darky is a well known disparaging term for a black person. Towelhead is a disparaging term for someone of Arab descent.
Throwing an onion bahji nothing like those two.
Foureyes I'm finished with this thread now, you're the only one who continues to insist the comment was racist. The vast majority (of mixed ethnicities) disagree with you.
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No Rosco, what you're doing is dodging the issue. It's bloody obvious that when those terms are thrown at someone, most people would term it racism. But it doesn't fit your textbook definition, so according to you it can't be racism. That's what i'm telling you. In the real world, your textbok definition just doesn't stand up to shit. It's wrong. Those terms don't tell me i'm inferior. But they are racist comments none the less. Ergo, your definition just doesn't work in the real world.
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=24077.msg589339#msg589339 date=1212692652]
Ross, if someone was to call me a darky or a towel head, what would you call it? Are those terms not racially motivated? They don't imply i'm inferior they're just terms of hatred based on my colour. So what would you call it if somebody harassed me with those terms?
[/quote]
Darky is a well known disparaging term for a black person. Towelhead is a disparaging term for someone of Arab descent.
Throwing an onion bahji nothing like those two.
Foureyes I'm finished with this thread now, you're the only one who continues to insist the comment was racist. The vast majority (of mixed ethnicities) disagree with you.
[/quote]
No Rosco, what you're doing is dodging the issue. It's bloody obvious that when those terms are thrown at someone, most people would term it racism. But it doesn't fit your textbook definition, so according to you it can't be racism. That's what i'm telling you. In the real world, your textbok definition just doesn't stand up to shit. It's wrong. Those terms don't tell me i'm inferior. But they are racist comments none the less. Ergo, your definition just doesn't work in the real world.
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589348#msg589348 date=1212693264]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589346#msg589346 date=1212693197]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589330#msg589330 date=1212692399]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589327#msg589327 date=1212692374]
DB you are a cunt.
[/quote]
An Irish cunt too.
[/quote]
Paddy I still love ya.
Ross I doubt you have ever lost a debate in your life.
Legends the pair of ye.
Is it home time yet?
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Ryan hated typing like that. He gave out to me once for doing it.
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He still does. 🙂 I don't know why its happening. Andy already had a go at me for it.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589346#msg589346 date=1212693197]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589330#msg589330 date=1212692399]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589327#msg589327 date=1212692374]
DB you are a cunt.
[/quote]
An Irish cunt too.
[/quote]
Paddy I still love ya.
Ross I doubt you have ever lost a debate in your life.
Legends the pair of ye.
Is it home time yet?
[/quote]
Ryan hated typing like that. He gave out to me once for doing it.
[/quote]
He still does. 🙂 I don't know why its happening. Andy already had a go at me for it.
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=24077.msg589357#msg589357 date=1212693578]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589344#msg589344 date=1212693091]
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=24077.msg589339#msg589339 date=1212692652]
Ross, if someone was to call me a darky or a towel head, what would you call it? Are those terms not racially motivated? They don't imply i'm inferior they're just terms of hatred based on my colour. So what would you call it if somebody harassed me with those terms?
[/quote]
Darky is a well known disparaging term for a black person. Towelhead is a disparaging term for someone of Arab descent.
Throwing an onion bahji nothing like those two.
Foureyes I'm finished with this thread now, you're the only one who continues to insist the comment was racist. The vast majority (of mixed ethnicities) disagree with you.
[/quote]
No Rosco, what you're doing is dodging the issue. It's bloody obvious that when those terms are thrown at someone, most people would term it racism. But it doesn't fit your textbook definition, so according to you it can't be racism. That's what i'm telling you. In the real world, your textbok definition just doesn't stand up to shit. It's wrong. Those terms don't tell me i'm inferior. But they are racist comments none the less. Ergo, your definition just doesn't work in the real world.
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I'm not dodging anything.
There are words which because of the weight of history on them are recognised as having more meaning than the normal ordinary meaning of the word. Effectively they are loaded words.
You've put some forward and I haven't disagreed with you. But I will continue (along with everybody else) to disagree that the "throwing an onion bahji" comment has any such significance and because it doesn't infer that you're inferior on account of your race it isn't racist.
You've tried to escalate the situation by referring to comments that are much more serious than the one aimed at you and in turn you've only succeeded in showing how trivial the initial comment was.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=24077.msg589344#msg589344 date=1212693091]
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=24077.msg589339#msg589339 date=1212692652]
Ross, if someone was to call me a darky or a towel head, what would you call it? Are those terms not racially motivated? They don't imply i'm inferior they're just terms of hatred based on my colour. So what would you call it if somebody harassed me with those terms?
[/quote]
Darky is a well known disparaging term for a black person. Towelhead is a disparaging term for someone of Arab descent.
Throwing an onion bahji nothing like those two.
Foureyes I'm finished with this thread now, you're the only one who continues to insist the comment was racist. The vast majority (of mixed ethnicities) disagree with you.
[/quote]
No Rosco, what you're doing is dodging the issue. It's bloody obvious that when those terms are thrown at someone, most people would term it racism. But it doesn't fit your textbook definition, so according to you it can't be racism. That's what i'm telling you. In the real world, your textbok definition just doesn't stand up to shit. It's wrong. Those terms don't tell me i'm inferior. But they are racist comments none the less. Ergo, your definition just doesn't work in the real world.
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I'm not dodging anything.
There are words which because of the weight of history on them are recognised as having more meaning than the normal ordinary meaning of the word. Effectively they are loaded words.
You've put some forward and I haven't disagreed with you. But I will continue (along with everybody else) to disagree that the "throwing an onion bahji" comment has any such significance and because it doesn't infer that you're inferior on account of your race it isn't racist.
You've tried to escalate the situation by referring to comments that are much more serious than the one aimed at you and in turn you've only succeeded in showing how trivial the initial comment was.
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=24077.msg589351#msg589351 date=1212693341]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589345#msg589345 date=1212693103]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=24077.msg589315#msg589315 date=1212691932]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589313#msg589313 date=1212691745]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=24077.msg589230#msg589230 date=1212689250]
The first thing that strikes me when reading through, is the fact that Foureyes, for most of the thread has had to justify/explain why he's offended, like it requires a rationalisation.
[/quote]
Not you too.
Nobody and I mean nobody is questioning his right to be offended. This is about whether or not what was said was racist and it clearly is not.
[/quote]
Haha, you've said that so many times in this thread and each time it's been ignored, I thought I'd acknowledge this one 😉
[/quote]
**high fives HC**
I was about to post foureyes post where he said the comment was racist and then paste in every single reply that said it wasn't which includes everyone including Anita LTW and myself who are usually the ones defending the "victim" in threads like this.
This whole thread is nuts.
Its like Errie Indiana or something.
Everyone is ignoring plain straight forward logic.
[/quote]
In a nutshell, that shows just how little you really do understand about the whole thing.
[/quote]
I would say having done all the travelling I have and loving the interaction with people from every background possible I have discussed the issue of Racism enough to have a deep understanding of it.
But you can make your own judgement.
In this thread at least I disagree with you.
The last thing I am going to say on the subject is that if you enter into debate with ignornant people in any format then you must expect ignorant remarks and debate.
So for Rog to come out with an offensive/"racist" comment hardly surprised anyone and I'm surprised you didn't just ignore it.
It was not worth the debate.
You asked for an apology and he gave one twice.
Yet I've yet to see you acknowledge that anywhere in the 30 pages.
**rings ahead to get Ross to order a coke**
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589345#msg589345 date=1212693103]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=24077.msg589315#msg589315 date=1212691932]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589313#msg589313 date=1212691745]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=24077.msg589230#msg589230 date=1212689250]
The first thing that strikes me when reading through, is the fact that Foureyes, for most of the thread has had to justify/explain why he's offended, like it requires a rationalisation.
[/quote]
Not you too.
Nobody and I mean nobody is questioning his right to be offended. This is about whether or not what was said was racist and it clearly is not.
[/quote]
Haha, you've said that so many times in this thread and each time it's been ignored, I thought I'd acknowledge this one 😉
[/quote]
**high fives HC**
I was about to post foureyes post where he said the comment was racist and then paste in every single reply that said it wasn't which includes everyone including Anita LTW and myself who are usually the ones defending the "victim" in threads like this.
This whole thread is nuts.
Its like Errie Indiana or something.
Everyone is ignoring plain straight forward logic.
[/quote]
In a nutshell, that shows just how little you really do understand about the whole thing.
[/quote]
I would say having done all the travelling I have and loving the interaction with people from every background possible I have discussed the issue of Racism enough to have a deep understanding of it.
But you can make your own judgement.
In this thread at least I disagree with you.
The last thing I am going to say on the subject is that if you enter into debate with ignornant people in any format then you must expect ignorant remarks and debate.
So for Rog to come out with an offensive/"racist" comment hardly surprised anyone and I'm surprised you didn't just ignore it.
It was not worth the debate.
You asked for an apology and he gave one twice.
Yet I've yet to see you acknowledge that anywhere in the 30 pages.
**rings ahead to get Ross to order a coke**
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589362#msg589362 date=1212694069]
Would someone consider this racism?
Me to Chinese person. "What ya gonna do? Throw a ricecake?"
[/quote]
F*ck me Paddy no need for that!
Would someone consider this racism?
Me to Chinese person. "What ya gonna do? Throw a ricecake?"
[/quote]
F*ck me Paddy no need for that!
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589366#msg589366 date=1212694371]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589362#msg589362 date=1212694069]
Would someone consider this racism?
Me to Chinese person. "What ya gonna do? Throw a ricecake?"
[/quote]
F*ck me Paddy no need for that!
[/quote]
Yeah but its stupid. Thats the concept ya know?
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589362#msg589362 date=1212694069]
Would someone consider this racism?
Me to Chinese person. "What ya gonna do? Throw a ricecake?"
[/quote]
F*ck me Paddy no need for that!
[/quote]
Yeah but its stupid. Thats the concept ya know?
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589368#msg589368 date=1212694504]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589366#msg589366 date=1212694371]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589362#msg589362 date=1212694069]
Would someone consider this racism?
Me to Chinese person. "What ya gonna do? Throw a ricecake?"
[/quote]
F*ck me Paddy no need for that!
[/quote]
Yeah but its stupid. Thats the concept ya know?
[/quote]
Ha ha I was joking. I agree with you completely.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589366#msg589366 date=1212694371]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=24077.msg589362#msg589362 date=1212694069]
Would someone consider this racism?
Me to Chinese person. "What ya gonna do? Throw a ricecake?"
[/quote]
F*ck me Paddy no need for that!
[/quote]
Yeah but its stupid. Thats the concept ya know?
[/quote]
Ha ha I was joking. I agree with you completely.
By jove Patrick. 30 pages and you've cracked it.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589364#msg589364 date=1212694200]
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=24077.msg589351#msg589351 date=1212693341]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589345#msg589345 date=1212693103]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=24077.msg589315#msg589315 date=1212691932]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589313#msg589313 date=1212691745]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=24077.msg589230#msg589230 date=1212689250]
The first thing that strikes me when reading through, is the fact that Foureyes, for most of the thread has had to justify/explain why he's offended, like it requires a rationalisation.
[/quote]
Not you too.
Nobody and I mean nobody is questioning his right to be offended. This is about whether or not what was said was racist and it clearly is not.
[/quote]
Haha, you've said that so many times in this thread and each time it's been ignored, I thought I'd acknowledge this one 😉
[/quote]
**high fives HC**
I was about to post foureyes post where he said the comment was racist and then paste in every single reply that said it wasn't which includes everyone including Anita LTW and myself who are usually the ones defending the "victim" in threads like this.
This whole thread is nuts.
Its like Errie Indiana or something.
Everyone is ignoring plain straight forward logic.
[/quote]
In a nutshell, that shows just how little you really do understand about the whole thing.
[/quote]
I would say having done all the travelling I have and loving the interaction with people from every background possible I have discussed the issue of Racism enough to have a deep understanding of it.
But you can make your own judgement.
In this thread at least I disagree with you.
The last thing I am going to say on the subject is that if you enter into debate with ignornant people in any format then you must expect ignorant remarks and debate.
So for Rog to come out with an offensive/"racist" comment hardly surprised anyone and I'm surprised you didn't just ignore it.
It was not worth the debate.
You asked for an apology and he gave one twice.
Yet I've yet to see you acknowledge that anywhere in the 30 pages.
**rings ahead to get Ross to order a coke**
[/quote]
I did. He apologised and i said it was cool.
What you guys don't see is that my idea of what is offensive is based upon my life experiences and the shit i've had thrown at me over the years. Just because you can't see it because you haven't lived my life carries absolutely no weight whatsoever with me. Rog wanted to take the piss out of me and he chose his words specifically to include and mention my race in order to make an insulting remark. To me that's racism or racial harassment. I couldn't give a shiny shit if you guys disagree. I know what I felt and why I felt it.
The hoohaa since then has been more about debating the issues around racism.
If that's the end of it, it's been fun guys and girls!
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=24077.msg589351#msg589351 date=1212693341]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589345#msg589345 date=1212693103]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=24077.msg589315#msg589315 date=1212691932]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=24077.msg589313#msg589313 date=1212691745]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=24077.msg589230#msg589230 date=1212689250]
The first thing that strikes me when reading through, is the fact that Foureyes, for most of the thread has had to justify/explain why he's offended, like it requires a rationalisation.
[/quote]
Not you too.
Nobody and I mean nobody is questioning his right to be offended. This is about whether or not what was said was racist and it clearly is not.
[/quote]
Haha, you've said that so many times in this thread and each time it's been ignored, I thought I'd acknowledge this one 😉
[/quote]
**high fives HC**
I was about to post foureyes post where he said the comment was racist and then paste in every single reply that said it wasn't which includes everyone including Anita LTW and myself who are usually the ones defending the "victim" in threads like this.
This whole thread is nuts.
Its like Errie Indiana or something.
Everyone is ignoring plain straight forward logic.
[/quote]
In a nutshell, that shows just how little you really do understand about the whole thing.
[/quote]
I would say having done all the travelling I have and loving the interaction with people from every background possible I have discussed the issue of Racism enough to have a deep understanding of it.
But you can make your own judgement.
In this thread at least I disagree with you.
The last thing I am going to say on the subject is that if you enter into debate with ignornant people in any format then you must expect ignorant remarks and debate.
So for Rog to come out with an offensive/"racist" comment hardly surprised anyone and I'm surprised you didn't just ignore it.
It was not worth the debate.
You asked for an apology and he gave one twice.
Yet I've yet to see you acknowledge that anywhere in the 30 pages.
**rings ahead to get Ross to order a coke**
[/quote]
I did. He apologised and i said it was cool.
What you guys don't see is that my idea of what is offensive is based upon my life experiences and the shit i've had thrown at me over the years. Just because you can't see it because you haven't lived my life carries absolutely no weight whatsoever with me. Rog wanted to take the piss out of me and he chose his words specifically to include and mention my race in order to make an insulting remark. To me that's racism or racial harassment. I couldn't give a shiny shit if you guys disagree. I know what I felt and why I felt it.
The hoohaa since then has been more about debating the issues around racism.
If that's the end of it, it's been fun guys and girls!
30 pages of garbage.
Brilliant.
And yet not one person has given a shite how I felt about the whole matter.
Do you know how it feels when someone accuses you of being a racist ? Especially when I'm supposedly a minority ethnicity too myself ?
It fcuking infuriating I'll tell ya. But I'm not allowed to argue my stance across cos the replies I'll get from foureyes would be nothing but infantile, playground insults.
His retaliatory insults to my 'onion bajhee thrower' comments were far, far more offensive and yet nobody picked up on that.
He claimed that an individual should always be given the advantage to decide if something said to him was offensive or not, regardless of the true intention of the perpetrator. Yet for a person who has spent the entire past 3 days (and 30 pages) demanding for sympathy and TLC, is nothing more than a hypocrite himself by dishing out an equal, if not worse, treatment to the perpetrator, me.
I called you an onion bajhee thrower and that gives you the right to call me a retard ? And fuck you for slyly twisting my words in front of the mass audience as well. I didn't call you onion bajhee thrower in the literal sense. I simply made it as part of a joke about you being able to do kungfu. Even a thicko could see that. The majority of the forum could see that, yet you blindly and ignorantly deny yourself another viewpoint.
Well what if I were to tell you that someone dear to me has cerebral palsy and that the term 'retard' offends and brings a great deal of hurt to me ? Are you gonna apologize and give me the benefit of the doubt ?
To hell you will.
You claim I'm an attention seeker yet you're the biggest contributor to this thread and there's no sign of you stopping either.
I'll tell you what you really are, of which nobody has dared to say it, in fear of sparking another lengthy argument.
You're nothing but an attention-seeking, double-standards, ultra-sensitive, hypocritical crybaby who has spent 30 pages contradicting yourself. That's who you really are. And the sad part is, you know it yourself deep-down too but because you're so deep in the hole you've dug for yourself, the only saving grace for you is to fight your cause until everyone's bored and the whole debate fizzles out by itself.
Brilliant.
And yet not one person has given a shite how I felt about the whole matter.
Do you know how it feels when someone accuses you of being a racist ? Especially when I'm supposedly a minority ethnicity too myself ?
It fcuking infuriating I'll tell ya. But I'm not allowed to argue my stance across cos the replies I'll get from foureyes would be nothing but infantile, playground insults.
His retaliatory insults to my 'onion bajhee thrower' comments were far, far more offensive and yet nobody picked up on that.
He claimed that an individual should always be given the advantage to decide if something said to him was offensive or not, regardless of the true intention of the perpetrator. Yet for a person who has spent the entire past 3 days (and 30 pages) demanding for sympathy and TLC, is nothing more than a hypocrite himself by dishing out an equal, if not worse, treatment to the perpetrator, me.
I called you an onion bajhee thrower and that gives you the right to call me a retard ? And fuck you for slyly twisting my words in front of the mass audience as well. I didn't call you onion bajhee thrower in the literal sense. I simply made it as part of a joke about you being able to do kungfu. Even a thicko could see that. The majority of the forum could see that, yet you blindly and ignorantly deny yourself another viewpoint.
Well what if I were to tell you that someone dear to me has cerebral palsy and that the term 'retard' offends and brings a great deal of hurt to me ? Are you gonna apologize and give me the benefit of the doubt ?
To hell you will.
You claim I'm an attention seeker yet you're the biggest contributor to this thread and there's no sign of you stopping either.
I'll tell you what you really are, of which nobody has dared to say it, in fear of sparking another lengthy argument.
You're nothing but an attention-seeking, double-standards, ultra-sensitive, hypocritical crybaby who has spent 30 pages contradicting yourself. That's who you really are. And the sad part is, you know it yourself deep-down too but because you're so deep in the hole you've dug for yourself, the only saving grace for you is to fight your cause until everyone's bored and the whole debate fizzles out by itself.
For the love of God.
*Empties Zippo and finishes the job*
*Empties Zippo and finishes the job*
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=24077.msg589383#msg589383 date=1212696051]
30 pages of garbage.
Brilliant.
And yet not one person has given a shite how I felt about the whole matter.
Do you know how it feels when someone accuses you of being a racist ? Especially when I'm supposedly a minority ethnicity too myself ?
It fcuking infuriating I'll tell ya. But I'm not allowed to argue my stance across cos the replies I'll get from foureyes would be nothing but infantile, playground insults.
His retaliatory insults to my 'onion bajhee thrower' comments were far, far more offensive and yet nobody picked up on that.
He claimed that an individual should always be given the advantage to decide if something said to him was offensive or not, regardless of the true intention of the perpetrator. Yet for a person who has spent the entire past 3 days (and 30 pages) demanding for sympathy and TLC, is nothing more than a hypocrite himself by dishing out an equal, if not worse, treatment to the perpetrator, me.
I called you an onion bajhee thrower and that gives you the right to call me a retard ? And fuck you for slyly twisting my words in front of the mass audience as well. I didn't call you onion bajhee thrower in the literal sense. I simply made it as part of a joke about you being able to do kungfu. Even a thicko could see that. The majority of the forum could see that, yet you blindly and ignorantly deny yourself another viewpoint.
Well what if I were to tell you that someone dear to me has cerebral palsy and that the term 'retard' offends and brings a great deal of hurt to me ? Are you gonna apologize and give me the benefit of the doubt ?
To hell you will.
You claim I'm an attention seeker yet you're the biggest contributor to this thread and there's no sign of you stopping either.
I'll tell you what you really are, of which nobody has dared to say it, in fear of sparking another lengthy argument.
You're nothing but an attention-seeking, double-standards, ultra-sensitive, hypocritical crybaby who has spent 30 pages contradicting yourself. That's who you really are. And the sad part is, you know it yourself deep-down too but because you're so deep in the hole you've dug for yourself, the only saving grace for you is to fight your cause until everyone's bored and the whole debate fizzles out by itself.
[/quote]
I did. Reread my posts.
And Foureyes yes its been great fun!
30 pages of garbage.
Brilliant.
And yet not one person has given a shite how I felt about the whole matter.
Do you know how it feels when someone accuses you of being a racist ? Especially when I'm supposedly a minority ethnicity too myself ?
It fcuking infuriating I'll tell ya. But I'm not allowed to argue my stance across cos the replies I'll get from foureyes would be nothing but infantile, playground insults.
His retaliatory insults to my 'onion bajhee thrower' comments were far, far more offensive and yet nobody picked up on that.
He claimed that an individual should always be given the advantage to decide if something said to him was offensive or not, regardless of the true intention of the perpetrator. Yet for a person who has spent the entire past 3 days (and 30 pages) demanding for sympathy and TLC, is nothing more than a hypocrite himself by dishing out an equal, if not worse, treatment to the perpetrator, me.
I called you an onion bajhee thrower and that gives you the right to call me a retard ? And fuck you for slyly twisting my words in front of the mass audience as well. I didn't call you onion bajhee thrower in the literal sense. I simply made it as part of a joke about you being able to do kungfu. Even a thicko could see that. The majority of the forum could see that, yet you blindly and ignorantly deny yourself another viewpoint.
Well what if I were to tell you that someone dear to me has cerebral palsy and that the term 'retard' offends and brings a great deal of hurt to me ? Are you gonna apologize and give me the benefit of the doubt ?
To hell you will.
You claim I'm an attention seeker yet you're the biggest contributor to this thread and there's no sign of you stopping either.
I'll tell you what you really are, of which nobody has dared to say it, in fear of sparking another lengthy argument.
You're nothing but an attention-seeking, double-standards, ultra-sensitive, hypocritical crybaby who has spent 30 pages contradicting yourself. That's who you really are. And the sad part is, you know it yourself deep-down too but because you're so deep in the hole you've dug for yourself, the only saving grace for you is to fight your cause until everyone's bored and the whole debate fizzles out by itself.
[/quote]
I did. Reread my posts.
And Foureyes yes its been great fun!
