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Summer rebuild 2023

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Look at Matip? Nats? So, the team has to modify it's play to suit a slower back line. Klopp isn't going to sell Fabs, so I am wondering where he fits, and he played CB really well in covid season. He had an awful campaign this year but he was turning it around towards the end of the season
Fabs is renowned as the slowest player in the squad. Matip is much faster, Gomez a Ferrari to Fabs' Ford.
 
Our midfield options should be as follows from next season;

Macallister - Thuram - Kone
(Jones) - (Gravenburch) - (Bajcetic)

in reserve - Morton

Or something like that, get it all sorted now and we wouldn't need to worry about the midfield for another 4-5 years.

If you wanna talk about a rebuild, this would be it....signing 2 midfielders and a defender isn't a rebuild, that's just an ordinary summer window.
We are NOT buying those 4 midfielders (or any 4 midfielders) this Summer.
 
We are NOT buying those 4 midfielders (or any 4 midfielders) this Summer.

Well of course we're not, because we have owners who like to take holidays all through the summer putting their feet up sipping on mojito's and having their phones on DND, this is despite them having holidays throughout the season.....explains why we're never active in the window and we never see them at games.

Arsenal Chelsea Newcastle City Utd etc would have no issues doing that kind of business, which is why come this time next season they'll be in the CL and not us......again.

In short, FSG don't give a fuck.
 
Our midfield options should be as follows from next season;

Macallister - Thuram - Kone
(Jones) - (Gravenburch) - (Bajcetic)

in reserve - Morton

Or something like that, get it all sorted now and we wouldn't need to worry about the midfield for another 4-5 years.

If you wanna talk about a rebuild, this would be it....signing 2 midfielders and a defender isn't a rebuild, that's just an ordinary summer window.
Did Klopp mention a 'rebuild'? The reality is we have a budget, you have overinflated prices being banded about by clubs, especially European ones which only big clubs can afford.
Ali Mac, Kone, Thuram and if its true we also look to get Benjamin Pavard then we've fixed CB and RB issues. That's a strong team to put out for next season. Parvard will probably replace Matip.
Being linked is one thing, but getting over the line is another. So jorge has a lot of work to do. Those 4 are very exciting signings.
 
Did Klopp mention a 'rebuild'? The reality is we have a budget, you have overinflated prices being banded about by clubs, especially European ones which only big clubs can afford.
Ali Mac, Kone, Thuram and if its true we also look to get Benjamin Pavard then we've fixed CB and RB issues. That's a strong team to put out for next season. Parvard will probably replace Matip.
Being linked is one thing, but getting over the line is another. So jorge has a lot of work to do. Those 4 are very exciting signings.

The sales we get for players should bring more than the budget the owners are willing to put on the table. Plus the wage bill will be significantly reduced. Already saved 30m a year on the 4 leaving…..imagine if we got Fab Thiago Hendo off it too
 
Look at Matip? Nats? So, the team has to modify it's play to suit a slower back line. Klopp isn't going to sell Fabs, so I am wondering where he fits, and he played CB really well in covid season. He had an awful campaign this year but he was turning it around towards the end of the season

Where does Fabs fit???

How about as a DM - like… his position.

We can sign other midfielders and rotate - we don’t have to sell Gomez and plug that gap with a midfielder.

Sign Thuram, Ugarte, Kone.. whoever we can afford - but don’t do it by weakening another part of the team by relying on a player who patently cannot fill that roll.

Theres’s a reason Matip doesn’t get near the first team when Konate is fit, and Nat Phillips is only marginally ahead of Klopp pulling off his trackie pants, sticking a shirt on and going out to play CB in his undies!!!

Sell Philips, sell Matip if anyone will buy him, sell Rhys Williams, promote Van den Berg to 5th choice and maybe there’s £20m’ish to spend on a 4th choice CB.

What happens to the CB available on a free that the “brain trust” had a hard on about a few months back?
 
Where does Fabs fit???

How about as a DM - like… his position.

We can sign other midfielders and rotate - we don’t have to sell Gomez and plug that gap with a midfielder.

Sign Thuram, Ugarte, Kone.. whoever we can afford - but don’t do it by weakening another part of the team by relying on a player who patently cannot fill that roll.

Theres’s a reason Matip doesn’t get near the first team when Konate is fit, and Nat Phillips is only marginally ahead of Klopp pulling off his trackie pants, sticking a shirt on and going out to play CB in his undies!!!

Sell Philips, sell Matip if anyone will buy him, sell Rhys Williams, promote Van den Berg to 5th choice and maybe there’s £20m’ish to spend on a 4th choice CB.

What happens to the CB available on a free that the “brain trust” had a hard on about a few months back?
Gomez is a liability.. how often do we see him flap around like bambi on ice? I can't influence Klopp's/TC's decision as to who to buy and sell ( even though I jest otherwise). I still think fab has something to offer, and he has played CB for us and has done it really well. He's had an off-season, and hopefully, that blip's over. I think Gomez is still our most valuable sellable asset we don't need.
 
Fabinho wages are too high to be a bench player.

He needs to be sold imo.

I had some hope for him until I saw Sulemana burst past him on the final day. 2 years ago, that wouldn't have happened. I remember him hunting down the best dribbler in the world (in Messi). Now, he struggles to hunt down any player that goes past him.

Henderson and TAA are too leggy nowadays too. We need to real legs and power in the midfield. Especially to make up for the massive hole TAA leaves and the lack of effort he puts in, when it comes to recovering.

Mac Allister doesn't really provide that (so will need to play on the LCM); though he provides a bit of class.

The other 2 mids need to be Gerrard/Kante/Vieira type athletes.
 
Gomez is a liability.. how often do we see him flap around like bambi on ice? I can't influence Klopp's/TC's decision as to who to buy and sell ( even though I jest otherwise). I still think fab has something to offer, and he has played CB for us and has done it really well. He's had an off-season, and hopefully, that blip's over. I think Gomez is still our most valuable sellable asset we don't need.

Bravo… you’ve gone from claiming Gomez is a liability to bring our most valuable sellable asset in one paragraph.

We’d likely get the same by selling Phillips, Williams and Van den Berg as we would Gomez.

I’d shift Matip first - although we’d get less for him.

If Van den Berg is capable of stepping up and being 4th choice CB, then maybe we sell all of them and bring in 2 new CB’s

Or we keep either Gomez or Matip, sell the rest and buy one CB.

I’d keep Gomez - yes he can be a liability - but he can cover a few roles, at least, in theory, has the pace to play in our high line, us home grown and has a few more years left in the clock (and contract).
 
Bravo… you’ve gone from claiming Gomez is a liability to bring our most valuable sellable asset in one paragraph.

We’d likely get the same by selling Phillips, Williams and Van den Berg as we would Gomez.

I’d shift Matip first - although we’d get less for him.

If Van den Berg is capable of stepping up and being 4th choice CB, then maybe we sell all of them and bring in 2 new CB’s

Or we keep either Gomez or Matip, sell the rest and buy one CB.

I’d keep Gomez - yes he can be a liability - but he can cover a few roles, at least, in theory, has the pace to play in our high line, us home grown and has a few more years left in the clock (and contract).
Are you saying you're happy with Gomez as part of our back 4? He is either injured or behaving like Bambi on ice. Even though I think he is sh1t, he is still worth £30m.Nat, Thiago, Matip, Clarkson, and Morton are not close to that in fees.
What I'd like and what Klopp does is two different things, and the likelihood is Gomez will stay and Klopp might change tactics as he did with CJ to make him less like a dear in headlights until then I'll want him out.
 
He’s looked promising enough etc but jeez, I reckon even my ma would be a 40m player nowadays.

30-40m is the new 15-20m of 10-15 years ago.

This is what you have to pay now for players if you want to have the chance of being successful...and even then it's a tall order.

Unless of course you have a sublime scouting network that can bring you the likes of Estupinan Caicedo Enzo Nunez etc and all the other talents that have skyrocketed from nothing to everything before they become 70m+ players.
 

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Are you saying you're happy with Gomez as part of our back 4? He is either injured or behaving like Bambi on ice. Even though I think he is sh1t, he is still worth £30m.Nat, Thiago, Matip, Clarkson, and Morton are not close to that in fees.
What I'd like and what Klopp does is two different things, and the likelihood is Gomez will stay and Klopp might change tactics as he did with CJ to make him less like a dear in headlights until then I'll want him out.

We’re not getting £30m for him and it’s likely that an upgrade would cost more than that.

Would I be happy if he’s starting every week and playing like he has been - obviously not.

Would I be happy if he’s on the bench as our 4th choice CB - that I could live with.
 
Surprisingly enough I thought his best games for us last season were when he turned out at RB, where he'd been hopeless while he was doing well at CB. Given that (a) money's tight and (b) he also did well at LB in some early games for us, it would make sense to hold on to a player who can do a job across the back four.
 
Surprisingly enough I thought his best games for us last season were when he turned out at RB, where he'd been hopeless while he was doing well at CB. Given that (a) money's tight and (b) he also did well at LB in some early games for us, it would make sense to hold on to a player who can do a job across the back four.
Though I'm hoping Bradley will take the next step up. The bigger issue is LB if we sell Tsimikas - as some of our FM posters are suggesting. I don't see any merit in that either. We have a decent player that is 'happy' to play from the bench.
 
Are you saying you're happy with Gomez as part of our back 4? He is either injured or behaving like Bambi on ice. Even though I think he is sh1t, he is still worth £30m.Nat, Thiago, Matip, Clarkson, and Morton are not close to that in fees.
What I'd like and what Klopp does is two different things, and the likelihood is Gomez will stay and Klopp might change tactics as he did with CJ to make him less like a dear in headlights until then I'll want him out.

Sorry but Klopp had fuck all to do with making Curtis good, he was a brilliant talented player already. Evidence is there for all to see, Curtis plays ... we dont lose games, coz we have someone who is supreme at keeping the ball, can pass, can score, and is also strong.
 
Sorry but Klopp had fuck all to do with making Curtis good, he was a brilliant talented player already. Evidence is there for all to see, Curtis plays ... we dont lose games, coz we have someone who is supreme at keeping the ball, can pass, can score, and is also strong.
Hahaha ! Moron's never-ending bromance.
 
Though I'm hoping Bradley will take the next step up. The bigger issue is LB if we sell Tsimikas - as some of our FM posters are suggesting. I don't see any merit in that either. We have a decent player that is 'happy' to play from the bench.

We are in the perfect position for left back at the moment, but the question I guess is just how happy Tsimikas is. He clearly loves being at Liverpool but he must know that he is good enough to be first choice at lots of other clubs.
 
Sorry but Klopp had fuck all to do with making Curtis good, he was a brilliant talented player already. Evidence is there for all to see, Curtis plays ... we dont lose games, coz we have someone who is supreme at keeping the ball, can pass, can score, and is also strong.
Sorry but Klopp had fuck all to do with making Curtis good, he was a brilliant talented player already. Evidence is there for all to see, Curtis plays ... we dont lose games, coz we have someone who is supreme at keeping the ball, can pass, can score, and is also strong.
CJ without Klopp is at best a league 1 mid table team player.
 
Henderson will serve out his “twenties” on the bench at Liverpool. Ditto Fabinho. As has been noted above, nobody will offer any money for them, and certainly not at those wages.
 
Hahaha ! Moron's never-ending bromance.

We’ve got Moron in love with Curtis, Binomial in love with Nunez, Bluebell in love with every midfielder in existence not currently at the club, Dreamie in love with himself, Mo & Man Utd and Donner Van in love with absolutely nothing…

Good times
 
How far off a return is Bajcetic? It’s great that we should be getting some fresh talent in CM, but the young lad was mighty impressive last season.

If he’s ready for pre season, I can see him, Hendo, Fabs, Thiago, Jones and two new signings be why we have for next season. I’d love three new CMs but it ain’t gonna happen. Two new CMs, at least one top CB and a right back maybe and we should be ok. Maybe
 
We’ve got Moron in love with Curtis, Binomial in love with Nunez, Bluebell in love with every midfielder in existence not currently at the club, Dreamie in love with himself, Mo & Man Utd and Donner Van in love with absolutely nothing…

Good times
Not true. The last time I mentioned Hungarian Dom was when he played for RB Salzberg. I haven't mentioned him since as his valuation has skyrocketed. If we get Ali Mac, Thorum and Kone. I don't think I'll bemoan the MF situation for a couple of seasons. If we get the Hungarian Dom, wonderful. It will mean we have the tallest squad in Europe, and we will play a lot more set plays.
 
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