Sturridge new hamstring injury
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I thought it was the reason we bought Origi to be honest. Spend 10m for parts for a striker that cost 12m and the result is a bionic striker worth 50m.
Moneyball.
Just haven't harvested Origi for parts yet.
its ok. We've got shit sticky.
Gay me ballsack is an awesome pundit.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...rgen-Klopp-s-concerns-striker-s-injuries.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...rgen-Klopp-s-concerns-striker-s-injuries.html
Ha ha cheeky fucker.
I thought the saying was the world will end when you get married 😉
Can we dispense with the pseudo psychological bollocks now?
I think it's pretty clear there is an underlying problem that hasn't been addressed yet. Sturridges training and game time needs to be very carefully managed.
At some point we're going to have to look at the logic of spending millions on footballing talent from all across the globe, and then hiring our rehab specialists straight out of John Moores Uni.
I think it's pretty clear there is an underlying problem that hasn't been addressed yet. Sturridges training and game time needs to be very carefully managed.
At some point we're going to have to look at the logic of spending millions on footballing talent from all across the globe, and then hiring our rehab specialists straight out of John Moores Uni.
Yep. There's surely something pretty complex going on with Sturridge, that's leading to injuries elsewhere. Not that it's really comparable at a professional athlete's level, but I went to the osteopath when my shoulder and neck were fucked and he said it was all leading from my back. He asked then if I got pains in my knee and/or hip when playing sport and I did. I had little to no pain in my back at that time, but it was causing me pain in loads of other places.
I've had a number of similar experiences, which is why I have the view I do.
If I was spending 140m on players wages every year I'd have a sports orientated orthopaedic surgeon on staff and a top class strength and conditioning coach.
We just have a proliferation of physios (one of whom was a member of Simply Red in his earlier life) and graduates from John Moores.
Completely agree but wasn't he shipped over to Boston to be analysed over the summer by the super duper Red Sox physiological team ? Talk of selling is utter stupidity as we can only get rid when he is fit, and when he is fit he's the second best striker in the league!
That was for his recovery from hip surgery wasn't it?
And yeah at this point we're better off hanging onto him and hoping for a RVP like season where he fires us to the title in his fit year.
The only way I wouldn't be 'as' bothered about it is if the fucking freeloader was on on a poxy basic like the rest of us, and then got a massive whack when he started games. He signed that new 150k contract in 2014 and has played 16 games since.
He's physically not built to be an athlete.
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It's alright this time Klopp is going to be waiting for him in a darkened treatment room, 'Daniel... Im here to teach you what is serious pain and what is only pain'.
'Boss? I'm scared boss... Can I go?
'NEIN!'
'Boss? I'm scared boss... Can I go?
'NEIN!'
I totally accept the point that we should have the very best medical staff, and that we absolutely do not, however aren't you just replacing one pseudo science with another when you attribute this latest in a long line of injuries to a failure to address some unknown comorbid condition, or a failure with rehab. The pseudo science in both cases here is the conjecture and vague diagnosis of course, not the underlying science being suggested. The reality is that it that both explanations are almost necessarily true, they are that vague. Aren't you essentially saying, I don't think Sturridges rehab is going well? I mean... No, no it isn't.
There's an impulse to want to believe there's a root cause. The root cause, if we are in the business of the unbelievably general and thus true is he's an athlete whose body is great at every aspect of what he needs to do, except the part where it can endure those extreme demands without breaking. I'm not one that believes everyone falls into that category, or can be made to.
It would certainly be useful to have some statistical insight to that, because it makes Sturridge a one in 8 striker rather than a one in one.
Actual medical advice outside the realm of sports might involve someone saying "have you considered swimming."
No.
If I see a player with a hamstring injury and I make the comment that there is a physical problem here it is just common sense. What people have been doing is claiming there is some mental frailty that is the cause of these injuries.
Your post said more than that, and to be honest thank God, because the characterization you've just given is that you think there's a physical problem with Sturridge.
They should send him to somewhere like the unit at Loughborough, where they specialise in studying and working with a lot of sprinters with fast twitch muscle fibres. Traditionally, football physios, and their equipment, have been geared more towards players with slow twitch muscle fibres, although to be fair they're now advancing very quickly. I'd imagine that many sports scientists, strictly speaking, would prescribe different training sessions and schedules for the different types of player, which obviously isn't practicable in the time available, so the need to generalise means the Sturridge type of player is always going to be more at risk than the Dirk Kuyt or Milner type.
But even taking that into account, Studge is so injury-prone I suspect he'd still be crying off on a regular basis even with the most bespoke fitness regime possible. The muscular problems are always going to be around throughout his career, but that makes his mental toughness after the odd knock even more crucial. And will he work on that? No sign of a willingness so far. He should be edging towards the peak of his career in the next couple of seasons and it's all draining away, and he doesn't seem that arsed.
But even taking that into account, Studge is so injury-prone I suspect he'd still be crying off on a regular basis even with the most bespoke fitness regime possible. The muscular problems are always going to be around throughout his career, but that makes his mental toughness after the odd knock even more crucial. And will he work on that? No sign of a willingness so far. He should be edging towards the peak of his career in the next couple of seasons and it's all draining away, and he doesn't seem that arsed.
He is like a tampon.. Just like him, they are in for around a week and out for a month
Needs to be taken off the wage bill, and replacement found asap..
Such a shame..
Needs to be taken off the wage bill, and replacement found asap..
Such a shame..
We're kind of in a tough spot here. I wouldn't be in any way supportive of the idea of selling him in January. I'd definitely give him a chance to see if he can string a decent number of games together before the end of the season, but we have to plan around only having him sparingly. He 100% should have his own training regime and then only include in tactical stuff. Such a shame, because he is so, so good. Watch the dickhead get fit before Euro 2016 now.
I'd don't really get the handful of people saying he's not arsed. He used be raging in Suarez's shadow and had enough of an ego that he seems to want to be the absolute best. I reckon not playing kills him at least from a self-indulgent standpoint.
I'd don't really get the handful of people saying he's not arsed. He used be raging in Suarez's shadow and had enough of an ego that he seems to want to be the absolute best. I reckon not playing kills him at least from a self-indulgent standpoint.
I agree with the first part of the post, which is the same as I've said previously about training footballers like long distance runners.
Sturridge, and most other super quick players are more prone to muscle injuries. Yup, that's the F1 v. Everyday car scenario.
Where I have a problem is you saying he's not playing because of knocks. That isn't the case. He's had proper injuries each time. That's not mental frailty or a lack of toughness, that's his awareness of how his body is at any given time.
I'd much prefer he takes a three month stint to work on all of his issues, away from football if necessary, there's clearly some dysfunctions that need to be addressed. These also could be naturally related to his recovery from hip surgery, we don't really know because the information is sparse.
I suppose what I'm saying is, I should be our DOF.
I'll get my Cv ready
I don't agree with the idea of him not being arsed. What proof have we? The fact his shares the odd laugh in the directors box? It is probably killing him that he isn't fit to play.
Totally agree that Sturridge should be on a different fitness plan to others to try find a root cause of his injuries.
"We have ways of making you play, Mr Sturridge"
Well it's speculation either way, but in terms of empirical evidence I'd say my speculation has some substance behind it, the alternative is just a hopeful assumption. When you have Carra, Gerrard and, off the record, Rodgers suggesting he is that rarity in modern football of a top pro who won't play unless he feels as good as most feel in the first month of a season, I'd suggest he's quite a long way from deserving absolute trust in his giving an arseness.
Fans can project their own fan mentality on to a player and thus conclude that said player cares hugely and is as driven and passionate as we are, but the reality is there are almost as many dispositions on the pitch as there are players. Some care about everything, some are selfish, some need a boot up the arse to work hard, some fade when the team is struggling, some can motivate themselves, some need cajoling, etc etc. For every Kuyt there's several Downings. Studge strikes me as a nice lad off the pitch, but it's a very generous view to assume anything's killing him.
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