Stevie G. to leave Liverpool - Official
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They do good ego yeah ?
I've had a few days to think about this, and I think this is a mistake. He still has a lot to offer and I don't feel we have to manage his appearances much more than any player. It shouldn't be ending like this.
I think the club should still make an eleventh hour bid to have him stay.
I think the club should still make an eleventh hour bid to have him stay.
I believe that this very omission was the beginning of the exit thought process.
I dont think Steven is painting himself in a very good light right now.
He basically has wanted assurances he would play every single game regardless of form and almost a contract that stipulates that.
Like retiring from England means we MUST offer him the contract?
Strange and dissappointing.
He basically has wanted assurances he would play every single game regardless of form and almost a contract that stipulates that.
Like retiring from England means we MUST offer him the contract?
Strange and dissappointing.
Is right
If he wants to go and start every game in a league that won't close him down and he'll get millions in malcontent image rights in the US that's fine, but let's not pretend it's cos of a host of other extenuating circumstances, none of which are that he's nearly 35
wtf, have you watched us this season?
I wanted us to keep him but there is no way he should be starting as many games as has done so, which would benefit both parties.
He's been with us for 25 years. He's the most recognised star of the club around the world. He's an icon and our talisman. He has been pivotal in any success we've had during his time as a player. He's widely regarded as the face of Liverpool and has given his professional life to us. I have had enough of this constant sniping about Stevie Me, ego, and all the other bullshit being chucked at one of our greatest ever players. Truly shocking. None of you slagging him off will really understand the loss to the club and the city until he's actually gone it seems. How about we support him for the remainder of his remarkable career with us and treat him with even a little of the respect he deserves?
Thank fuck the internet wasn't around during Shanks' time, Or Bob's or Kenny's. What this place would make of Crazy Horse going to Wolves or Cally getting yet another game or the signing of Barnes Odin only knows.
Thank fuck the internet wasn't around during Shanks' time, Or Bob's or Kenny's. What this place would make of Crazy Horse going to Wolves or Cally getting yet another game or the signing of Barnes Odin only knows.
Yes. After all, if he'd thought about how Giggs and Scholes were handled in their last couple of years (or more), they were kept for the big games and rested for some of the run-of-the-mill ones. It's not rocket science.
Not that much, I suspect, because the team was the best in England and it was easier to appreciate that no player was bigger than the team and the club. There was plenty of sadness when Hughes left, but I doubt many felt it was illogical for either party at that stage. As for Callaghan, well, we can twist it another way: could you imagine that humble, decent, dignified man talking about himself and his dealings with the club in public? Look, we all admire and respect Gerrard but are we really obliged to weep about him for the next five bloody months? The team is mid-season, in trouble and that's surely the proper object for our concern.
True.
I'm not sure it's a case of not realising that though, I think it's almost the opposite, he has realised it & has contemplated him doing that. So more him realising he as a person couldn't sit on the bench for that long so often.
I mentioned half joking about his hand washing ocd, but it's linked, his personality is such that he has to be involved & has to make an impact & try to control every situation.
I think he's belatedly realised that he'd go insane sat on the bench so often & that the club can't afford to have him play every week, so has made a decision based on that.
I suspect he's angry at himself as much as anything, for not being able to make himself undroppable like he used to.
Probably worth noting in the conversation which brings up the Giggs/Scholes game management comparison, they were having their games 'managed' in a side that was competing for honours every season. I presume it's easier to sit on the bench and play less frequently if your team are winning things, or coming close, every season.
Indeed, however Cally was not asked endless stupid questions by ridiculous hacks to fill 24-hour sports news channels every time he showed his face. I'm sure if he had been asked endless stupid questions even a man of his calibre would have struggled not to appear a touch self-absorbed occasionally once edited. They are not diplomats or politicians, they are sportsmen. I think given the circumstances Gerrard has done a remarkable job for a very long time. These days they are not able to merely be, play, go home, live a simple life. The demands on their time and patience in the face of such pressure and expectation is insane. I'm not sure many of us could carry it off.
Well, I guess clubs need to spend more time with youth players teaching them to say 'It's none of your business,' because most of the time it isn't. Too many players look at that semi-domesticated sewer rat Geoff Shreeves, for example, and race over to do his bidding like a puppy begging for a biccie. Sky and its subsidiary outlets has become the analyst in residence for top players these days, when they ought to regard it as a menace. Steven,alas, really does seem to view media sessions as akin to therapy: his England press conferences became so painfully self-critical you half expected him to come out reclining on a couch. Maybe no one listens to him at the club. That wouldn't surprise me that much. The 'Liverpool Family' has been pretty dysfunctional for some years now.
There's no need for him to be playing every game, but few players play every game. Surely he doesn't expect to be playing *every game*. Just doesn't want to be on the bench once a week.
He still has the ability to change games. He's still one of our best players. Played in the right position, as an AM.
Do you think his AM days are gone?
He really does. His response to the Fergie book criticism was ridiculous.
Yep, after the game the other day, I can't remember who was in the studio, but they were basically blaming Rodgers. Saying that he should have assured him he'd play in every big game, and by not playing him in Madrid, he made Gerrard's decision easy.
What a load of shite. You can't say to someone, "you're not guaranteed a place, but you'll play in every massive game", surely tactically, it just doesn't work like that.
It was Alan Shearer. The Oracle.
You know, the one who didn't ever play at a big club so was always guaranteed a place & would probably get a place now if he put his boots on cos otherwise thousands of fans, their ugly obese tattooed shirtless bellies hanging out, would riot. Their husbands might join in too.
Well it seems (from all the quotes) that SG still thinks he can perform at this level consistently enough and doesn't need a special program to be developed which can be translated as he doesn't want need to be rested/rotated.
Sorry if I'm quaffing....
What was said? That if he got the contract in preseason he would have signed it? Of course he would have. He didn't know then what he now knows. (Sorry, that sounds like a shit song lyric btw).
This season has unfolded a lot differently than Gerrard probably would have expected/hoped back in the summer. He had just retired from international duty (perhaps thinking it would prolong his club career) and with Suarez leaving he once again saw himself as our main man. He would have expected to play every game when fit. He would have signed a contract presuming he would be an automatic starter for the foreseeable future.
However, the season didn't go as planned. Gerrard has found the going tough in this deeper role of his and it seems the penny has finally dropped that his legs are slowly going from under him. Rodgers informed him that he will have to tweak his game and be prepared for a reduced role in the team. Not just next season but also this season. Gerrard didn't want this, he couldn't envisage a Liverpool team with him on the sidelines watching on or not being able to be our Roy of the Rovers anymore. It might be a little selfish from him but perhaps the clean break is the best for all parties.
I personally would love to keep him. Use him sparingly next season in more advanced positions.
What was said? That if he got the contract in preseason he would have signed it? Of course he would have. He didn't know then what he now knows. (Sorry, that sounds like a shit song lyric btw).
This season has unfolded a lot differently than Gerrard probably would have expected/hoped back in the summer. He had just retired from international duty (perhaps thinking it would prolong his club career) and with Suarez leaving he once again saw himself as our main man. He would have expected to play every game when fit. He would have signed a contract presuming he would be an automatic starter for the foreseeable future.
However, the season didn't go as planned. Gerrard has found the going tough in this deeper role of his and it seems the penny has finally dropped that his legs are slowly going from under him. Rodgers informed him that he will have to tweak his game and be prepared for a reduced role in the team. Not just next season but also this season. Gerrard didn't want this, he couldn't envisage a Liverpool team with him on the sidelines watching on or not being able to be our Roy of the Rovers anymore. It might be a little selfish from him but perhaps the clean break is the best for all parties.
I personally would love to keep him. Use him sparingly next season in more advanced positions.
If he'd signed a contract in the summer and then was then told in November that he'd not start every match, what would he have done then? Ask for a transfer or scowl even more than he's been doing already this season? Is he leaving to play more games elsewhere or because he wasn't offered a contract sooner than he was? The more you look at the comments, the more confused they sound. For god's sake draw a line under it all and move on, Stevie.
I agree his comments are confusing. I don't know what would have happened IF he had signed the contract in the summer. It's a hypothetical scenario and thankfully we don't have to watch it play out. It could have been messy. The clean break is probably best for all.
I also agree he needs to shut up til May.
Not sure. I presume he sees it as a lovely little holiday in LA where he can be Roy Of The Rovers and not have to watch us play from the bench in a bit part role. Maybe he wants out of the city for a break? Maybe it's personal? Could be a lot of things. I'm guessing as I'm not privy to it. I'd like to know though.
Confirmed deal with LA Galaxy..
To join them in July
To join them in July
I'm not trying to slate Gerrard here but why turn round announce it now adding that he wants to remove the speculation about his future and then give an interview a few days later saying he'd have signed a contract if he'd been offered one. That's just started all the speculation again.
He's been a magnificent player for us and if carefully managed in his game time then I think he could have carried on having a big impact for us. But Gerrard has clearly indicated that he feels that he can and wants to play most games. I don't, based on his performances this season, think he can do that.
So we are in a stalemate. A contract needs to be mutually agreeable to all parties. Putting aside the legend he is, should we pay him a large contract out of sentiment? No in my opinion.
Any decision made has to be in the best interests of all involved and it looks pretty clear the club and Gerrard didn't agree on things going forward.
I'm not going to go down the Stevie Me route cos I think it's too easy, but if he can't see his role in the broader terms of the success of the club then the club had to make the brave decision. It's not one I'd have wanted to make but I think we have been bold and at least we know where we stand.
Gerrard is a once in an era player. We have been lucky to have him play for us and I've enjoyed many fantastic moments from his play, but at the end of the day, I support the club and I've lived with the motto of no player is ever bigger than the club. I think certain sections of the media and some fans are forgetting this. The media, well they just want to stir up controversy. The fans? Well they probably fear how we will end up.
We did ok after Kenny, Souey and many other true legends left. Yes, we felt their loss, but Liverpool Football Club continued on. So it will the same with the departure of Gerrard.
He's been a magnificent player for us and if carefully managed in his game time then I think he could have carried on having a big impact for us. But Gerrard has clearly indicated that he feels that he can and wants to play most games. I don't, based on his performances this season, think he can do that.
So we are in a stalemate. A contract needs to be mutually agreeable to all parties. Putting aside the legend he is, should we pay him a large contract out of sentiment? No in my opinion.
Any decision made has to be in the best interests of all involved and it looks pretty clear the club and Gerrard didn't agree on things going forward.
I'm not going to go down the Stevie Me route cos I think it's too easy, but if he can't see his role in the broader terms of the success of the club then the club had to make the brave decision. It's not one I'd have wanted to make but I think we have been bold and at least we know where we stand.
Gerrard is a once in an era player. We have been lucky to have him play for us and I've enjoyed many fantastic moments from his play, but at the end of the day, I support the club and I've lived with the motto of no player is ever bigger than the club. I think certain sections of the media and some fans are forgetting this. The media, well they just want to stir up controversy. The fans? Well they probably fear how we will end up.
We did ok after Kenny, Souey and many other true legends left. Yes, we felt their loss, but Liverpool Football Club continued on. So it will the same with the departure of Gerrard.
Spot on! Gerrard would have seen the bench on a frequent basis the last 6 years had he been in the hands of Fergie.
We have a player who has made a fortune playing for his boyhood club.
Please shut the hell up about how grateful we should be.
How hard can it be replacing a player who left 6 years ago in regards to actual impact? What is all this nonsense about being irreplaceable? We are getting 150000 more a week for salaries and room to signing a class act like Reus. Money we are not getting full value for right now.
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