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Sterling to Tell Rodgers he wants to leave this summer

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Judge Jules said:
There's a cost/benefit analysis to be gone through in cases like this, though. Sometimes it'll pay to hang on, sometimes it won't. AFAIC the Sterling saga has passed the point at which it would still be beneficial to us to keep him, and did so a while ago.
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Why?
 
If he is unprofessional, he loses his place to Ibe, Lallana, Markovic, Wilson, Origi, etc. It will not damage the team as much as losing Suarez. We're also not paying him as much as Suarez. Sterling has no cards to play here, he fucked up.
 
Jexy: because too much has been said, and because Sterling is nowhere near professional enough to be able to put it behind him as, for example,Suarez did. Look at his form since all this blew up if you don't believe me. If he stays he'll sulk his way through the season and his value will sink like a stone.

Dantes: if we don't have a fully firing Sterling we need the fee he'll fetch to replace him. I just don't think he's grown up enough to get the point you're understandably making, and that oaf of an agent of his certainly isn't going to help him do so.
 
Judge Jules said:
Jexy: because too much has been said, and because Sterling is nowhere near professional enough to be able to put it behind him as, for example,Suarez did. Look at his form since all this blew up if you don't believe me. If he stays he'll sulk his way through the season and his value will sink like a stone.

Dantes: if we don't have a fully firing Sterling we need the fee he'll fetch to replace him. I just don't think he's grown up enough to get the point you're understandably making, and that oaf of an agent of his certainly isn't going to help him do so.
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That fee will be useless to us this summer. I'd rather keep him a year, take less of a fee, but hope we get back in the Champions League and/or have a new manager, then try to attract a class German player, or a certain Colombian who will become clinically depressed under Benitez.
 
Judge Jules said:
Jexy: because too much has been said, and because Sterling is nowhere near professional enough to be able to put it behind him as, for example,Suarez did. Look at his form since all this blew up if you don't believe me. If he stays he'll sulk his way through the season and his value will sink like a stone.
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Quite, it's just escalated and escalated. While I do agree that people around the club and in the press haven't helped, he seems pretty determined, because it's gone from initial unrest, to his agent leaking stories, to his agent gobbing off, to his agent whoring him around Europe. He's gone.

People are blaming his agent, that's the kind of person he chooses to mix with, maybe he's been manipulated, I don't know.

I have not much problem (I was gutted obviously) with someone like Suarez wanting to go away and win what his talent warrants, but Sterling? He's a kid who's shown promise AND underperformed in equal measure. I don't really wish for young players to fuck their careers up, it will be pretty bittersweet if he does.
 
Judge Jules said:
if we don't have a fully firing Sterling we need the fee he'll fetch to replace him.
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That's a fair point but personally I think we've got an abundance of riches in the reserves for that wide position. At present I'd like to see Sterling continue for a year or two while the likes of Ibe, Sinclair, Wilson and a few others gradually get some experience in support. I'll be amazed if none of them end up eclipsing Sterling in terms of speed and invention. So I don't think that's an area of the team we'll need to spend money. The youth system has actually worked. But clearly it would hurt if he went now and these younger lads were obliged to push on to fill the gap, but I'd hate it if we went out and signed someone on maybe a three or four year contract who'd block the development of them.
 
So we lose 25% of what we get for him to QPR?

And we get the same sort of thing Burnley get with Ings then if he leaves on a free? Do QPR get any of that?

I'd hold on to him, players are fetching decent money even in their final year.
 
gkmacca said:
That's a fair point but personally I think we've got an abundance of riches in the reserves for that wide position. At present I'd like to see Sterling continue for a year or two while the likes of Ibe, Sinclair, Wilson and a few others gradually get some experience in support. I'll be amazed if none of them end up eclipsing Sterling in terms of speed and invention. So I don't think that's an area of the team we'll need to spend money. The youth system has actually worked. But clearly it would hurt if he went now and these younger lads were obliged to push on to fill the gap, but I'd hate it if we went out and signed someone on maybe a three or four year contract who'd block the development of them.
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Whilst I agree with your point about the abundance of riches in that position, we are under no obligation to only spend the money on a winger. I'd rather we sold him now for a decent fee and put the money into one of the many other positions we need to strengthen.
 
Markeh said:
So we lose 25% of what we get for him to QPR?

And we get the same sort of thing Burnley get with Ings then if he leaves on a free? Do QPR get any of that?

I'd hold on to him, players are fetching decent money even in their final year.
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I think it's about 20% if he signs with a British club, and 25% if he signs with a foreign club.
 
mark1975 said:
Quite, it's just escalated and escalated. While I do agree that people around the club and in the press haven't helped, he seems pretty determined, because it's gone from initial unrest, to his agent leaking stories, to his agent gobbing off, to his agent whoring him around Europe. He's gone.

People are blaming his agent, that's the kind of person he chooses to mix with, maybe he's been manipulated, I don't know.

I have not much problem (I was gutted obviously) with someone like Suarez wanting to go away and win what his talent warrants, but Sterling? He's a kid who's shown promise AND underperformed in equal measure. I don't really wish for young players to fuck their careers up, it will be pretty bittersweet if he does.
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He has shown more than promise Mark. He's arguably our best player.

I think people are forgetting how good he is.
 
ILD said:
He has shown more than promise Mark. He's arguably our best player.

I think people are forgetting how good he is.
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Ok, but he's been equally up and down. I think that's fair enough, he seems to think he's made it already.
 
If we are going to sell at the first sign of agitation it will set a precedent. Every agent will take this as a sign that they can manipulate Liverpool FC for their clients benefit anytime they like and know there will be no consequences. It's a sign of weakness and it will harm the club in the future, we really will be a stepping stone.

I get the feeling that the focus isn't on the team and it's progression it's about fees or more to the point the fear of a lesser gain. Why are supporters suddenly fixated on cash? I'd rather have a good player than another wedge to drop onto the roulette wheel of transfer dealings.

Are we really saying that we can't overcome a difficult period with a 20 year old? Time is the best healer and he's got plenty of time to reflect and I'd say he'll want to play football more than politicking when the new season starts and he's training with his mates.
 
jexykrodic said:
If we are going to sell at the first sign of agitation it will set a precedent. Every agent will take this as a sign that they can manipulate Liverpool FC for their clients benefit anytime they like and know there will be no consequences. It's a sign of weakness and it will harm the club in the future, we really will be a stepping stone.

I get the feeling that the focus isn't on the team and it's progression it's about fees or more to the point the fear of a lesser gain. Why are supporters suddenly fixated on cash? I'd rather have a good player than another wedge to drop onto the roulette wheel of transfer dealings.

Are we really saying that we can't overcome a difficult period with a 20 year old? Time is the best healer and he's got plenty of time to reflect and I'd say he'll want to play football more than politicking when the new season starts and he's training with his mates.
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I agree with this, I suspect we'll do something similar to what we did with Suarez, ask him to give us a year. This just smacks of a different attitude though, where he's attracted to London and all that goes with it, ie his mates etc.
 
mark1975 said:
Ok, but he's been equally up and down. I think that's fair enough, he seems to think he's made it already.
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He kinda has made it. He's basically an automatic starter for both club and country. Fair enough, he went ridiculously off the boil after Christmas with us. I think he's a little prick for refusing a generous contract but his talent isn't in question for me. I think he's a very good player and can potentially get better. Whether he does or doesn't is up to him.
 
Just pay the cunt his money to show the world that were more than a feeder club for champions league clubs.

Surely keeping hold of sterling with both parties being happy is as big a statement of intent as any other likely signing we could make.

It's going to be cheaper too!
 
HC said:
Just pay the cunt his money to show the world that were more than a feeder club for champions league clubs.

Surely keeping hold of sterling with both parties being happy is as big a statement of intent as any other likely signing we could make.

It's going to be cheaper too!
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If he's not going to sign for £900k per week how much are we going to pay?

Could get expensive.
 
The dream scenario would be to sell him to Real Madrid with an option to buy him back clause in the deal. A season with Rafa showing him how over-indulged he's been here would do him the world of good.
 
gkmacca said:
The dream scenario would be to sell him to Real Madrid with an option to buy him back clause in the deal. A season with Rafa showing him how over-indulged he's been here would do him the world of good.
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Also, a season where he's on the bench behind players with genuine quality, will show his mentality

Either he'll be frustrated at lack of playing time or he'll be content with doing bare minimum
 
HC said:
Just pay the cunt his money to show the world that were more than a feeder club for champions league clubs.

Surely keeping hold of sterling with both parties being happy is as big a statement of intent as any other likely signing we could make.

It's going to be cheaper too!
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If we pay him the money, then we hand him more leverage as we can't afford to blow £150k a week on a player who isn't interested.

Thanks to the thick cunt's agent we now know beforehand that he is not interested. So there is no way FSG will offer him an improved deal now. £35k a week is the going rate for a disinterested player, so we don't need to do anything. We're getting our money's worth from this point whatever happens.
 
SkySports News have spent all day casually saying Sterling was booed 'by Liverpool fans' in Ireland, as if no fans of other clubs could possibly be appalled by the antics of Sterling and his agent. Even by their low standards it's dreadful journalism, but I guess they're eager to see the transfer happen.
 
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