So if Rafa came back..........
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many philosophers would agree with you
It's not growing on me. He's had his chance IMO but you do have to take into consideration the constraints he had as well. He is preferable to Martinez, Lambert etc.. In my mind and it was a huge mistake to sack him for that doddering twat Hodgson. No-one can doubt his love for the club and city though. Mate of mine spoke to him a few months back and he was adamant he would manage us again one day
rafa shouldn't have been sacked in the first place. our slump out of the top 4 coincedes with us making a PROFIT in two transfer windows.
Pretty much what I'm thinking. He's not my favourite option either but like you said I'd rather have Rafa than Rodgers, Martinerz and Lambert.
Q: Is it better not to go back to a place where you have had a good time?
Rafa: I don’t agree that second time round is not a good thing. If the circumstances are favourable you can go back because experience means you make fewer mistakes. The most important thing is to maintain your ambition.
You’re known as a football obsessive, but other than watch football, what have you been doing since you left Inter? What do you do with your spare time (when you’re not being grilled by FFT readers)?
Ahmed Laif, London
I have been preparing for the future, analysing my previous job, taking the positives from it and looking at the mistakes, so I am ready for the next challenge. But I have also been enjoying spending time with my family.
"We know that we made some mistakes," said Benitez. "We are not happy with some of the signings.
Rafa: I don’t agree that second time round is not a good thing. If the circumstances are favourable you can go back because experience means you make fewer mistakes. The most important thing is to maintain your ambition.
You’re known as a football obsessive, but other than watch football, what have you been doing since you left Inter? What do you do with your spare time (when you’re not being grilled by FFT readers)?
Ahmed Laif, London
I have been preparing for the future, analysing my previous job, taking the positives from it and looking at the mistakes, so I am ready for the next challenge. But I have also been enjoying spending time with my family.
"We know that we made some mistakes," said Benitez. "We are not happy with some of the signings.
Doc - I can't believe you want him back. If we have good owners (it's tough to tell right now, but I'm still hopeful despite the horrible stuff they've done with the BoSox since the two world series win), how on earth do you want Rafa to be involved with the project? He's not had it smooth with any owner since his days with valencia because ... of .... not enough control (he won't have it if we bring the ex-Barca lad) and money (doesn't seem like we have a lot). This, I think, would be a bigger risk than Martinez.
"I want Kenny fired" ... oh but I want him to stay.
"Rafa needs to be hired" ...oh but he's not my favorite option.
Make up yer mind kid ... It's ok to be on one side, or the other.
Haha. Spot fucking on!!!
You know my thoughts on this. Look at my previous posts. Rafa with strong and charismatic DOF. Rafa is one of the top coaches in the world. End of. In a structure where his role is made clear. I think Rafa knows he has made errors, and I'm sure he's aware of his rep, and that he can't afford to be tarred with that brush again. He isn't stupid.
Why?
He might show something rare in football now... Loyalty to his club. He's not jumping ship the second a big club comes in.
Rodgers might not come but a much bigger manager might want to.
Gotta agree, esp if he has a solid DoF or GM with good track record to help with signings.
I think Rafa will agree to it as he knows that is the only way he'll get to manage us again, which he desperately does.
And Martinez? Sorry, he'd not last the season.
Isn't it a huge risk to assume he'll be able to 'deal' with a strong and charismatic DOF? He may not be stupid, but he repeated the errors with Valencia with Inter, and cost himself a job with the best team in Italy and Europe. In 6 months, he caused enough damage to take away all that Mourinho had built. Is the risk worth it? I'm really really skeptical.
Would Rafa be happy just as a coach?
Would Rafa improve the likes of Carroll, Shelvey and Henderson?
Would Rafa get Adam, Downing and Enrique to play at a good enough level consistently?
Would Rafa be able to bring through the youth players such as Sterling and Suso?
I like Rafa too but I'm not too sure he can do the above. Whoever we get in needs to be able to do the above. I thought Kenny would have managed it but he struggled.
Would Rafa improve the likes of Carroll, Shelvey and Henderson?
Would Rafa get Adam, Downing and Enrique to play at a good enough level consistently?
Would Rafa be able to bring through the youth players such as Sterling and Suso?
I like Rafa too but I'm not too sure he can do the above. Whoever we get in needs to be able to do the above. I thought Kenny would have managed it but he struggled.
I think that's what the others are saying too Sunny. This is completely my opinion too btw. Rafa is still quite young and he's the manager i've connected with most at Liverpool (yes even more so than Kenny) and like Kenny, he genuinely seems to love the club and the city, i'd love him to come back here and form a dynasty.
Rafa is a much smaller risk than Martinez. He won't make the same mistake again. I think the time he has been forced to spend out of the game has been a humbling experience for him. I really believe that.
My favourite options have always been Mourinho and Guardiola. The there's Löw.
But those three aren't even in the race, hence Benitez.
Regarding Kenny I've never said that I wanted him to stay, and if I did, I was being sarcastic.
The only thing I said was that I wanted him to be the one to win us the league.
Rafa can improve any player who has an attitude that they want to be the best they can. I think he can develop a lot of our players, as bad attitude isn't their main problem.
I don't expect everyone to be. Rafa was divisive, no doubt; I think with the structures the yanks are putting in place we might be able to tap the very best of Rafa. Maybe! Better bet than most of the other candidates, by fucking miles.
I don't think Rafa will have to cope with as much pressure from the fans.
Benitez will get rid of those he can't improve. I bet you he's been following us all season long and pretty much knows which players he'll get rid of.
Regarding improving players? Traoré and Biscan helped us win the CL. He moved Carra to CB.
Alonso became a world class player under his watch etc etc.
See I think it's the safer option rather than the better option, because we don't know how the other managers will deal.
I'm optimistic whoever we go with will do well, but with Rafa we kind of know how he might do.
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