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So are we better without him.........

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[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=45274.msg1333829#msg1333829 date=1305479300]
Were Spearing and Lucas as shite as the scoreline suggests?
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Spearing got found out today.
 
As much as we've been playing as a team and doing the business without Gerrard, today is a timely reminder of just how much we miss his influence.

This was a game made for him to boss.
 
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=45274.msg1333829#msg1333829 date=1305479300]
Were Spearing and Lucas as shite as the scoreline suggests?
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Spearing and Lucas have performed admirably over the last couple of months. But it's too much for them to ask to get the better of a three man midfield with players of the quality of Vdv and Modric. Had Meireles been fit (or even Shelvey been played in his place), this would have been a different game.
 
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=45274.msg1333836#msg1333836 date=1305479446]
No he wasn't. He was excellent for 60 mins.
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That is fucking bollocks. Spearing was shit. Lucas was average. We needed to play 4-3-3.

We missed ming so much
 
They got overrun. But both of them performed well I thought. We badly needed a third member in midfield. I'm convinced the result would've been different had we started with a third midfielder rather than Carroll.
 
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=45274.msg1333850#msg1333850 date=1305479734]
Spearing wasn't shit at all. Which game were you watching?
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This one today

He picked some nice passes but he also sent many astray. I'm not blaming him for our loss as we needed a midfield 3 today. I'd still rather jonjo start instead of him though.
 
I don't think so. I've been bigging up Jonjo all season, but I was really disappointed when he replaced Spearing. The fact of the matter is that both Lucas and Spearing are fairly limited players, but as part of a functional three man midfield, they do end performing their roles really well. Spearing ran his gut out today, and tried his best spraying the ball around. That didn't need replacing. It just needed a third and willing runner and it would've changed the game significantly.

I don't think anyone would say that Lucas and Spearing are good enough in the long run (to be Liverpool starting material). But when they're the only available resources, it's imperative we utilise their strengths. And we didn't today.
 
Oh I agree. Tactics were a fault today, but it shows in bright light to the people who say spearing should replace lucas that he gets found out when he hasn't got people covering for him. You could argue the same for lucas though I guess

we need to play 4-3-3 to get the most out of lucas, spearing, mereiles, suarez, kuyt and maybe even carroll.
 
On another note, I wanted to punch Maxi in the fucking face when he dived. Useless git.

For all his hattricks, I want him to fuck off. I really hate that sort of stuff. I know people will bring up Gerrard, but has Gerrard been ever so blatant i.e. without any contact whatsoever?
 
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=45274.msg1333888#msg1333888 date=1305480906]
On another note, I wanted to punch Maxi in the fucking face when he dived. Useless git.

For all his hattricks, I want him to fuck off. I really hate that sort of stuff. I know people will bring up Gerrard, but has Gerrard been ever so blatant i.e. without any contact whatsoever?
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Yes, remember that England game?
 
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=45274.msg1333899#msg1333899 date=1305481197]
Haven't seen it. Fuck it. I've never liked Maxi anyway.
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Maxi is best pals with Suarez & Lucas ... and he's a capable squad player, who is happy to come off the bench. It would be lunacy to sell him, especially if Kun Aguero is our #1 target.
 
He's in a rich vein of form. But I don't think he's particularly capable.

If all we want to keep him for is to keep others happy, then that's a pretty poor reason. His fondness of diving outweighs against that quite easily.
 
No, we want to keep him because his current form shows what he's capable of. The diving I agree is infuriating, but unlike you I don't see that as a good enough reason to naff off a decent squad option.
 
Not possible to make wholesale first team changes so the likes of Maxi, Spearing, Skrtel, Lucas and Kuyt must remain for squad depth while we replace them.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45274.msg1333925#msg1333925 date=1305482283]
Keep him if he's good enough, not because of who he's friends with
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a) he's good enough
b) if keeping him meant Kun Aguero, then keep him for that too.
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=45274.msg1333929#msg1333929 date=1305482518]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45274.msg1333925#msg1333925 date=1305482283]
Keep him if he's good enough, not because of who he's friends with
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a) he's good enough
b) if keeping him meant Kun Aguero, then keep him for that too.
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Give him a job as a scout! He's a decent bench option. He knows when the net is, he just should NEVER play wide in a 442
 
Is that really an answer though? He was absolutely fantastic and if we were prepared to play a role with more harrying and 60 yard balls than standing up top waiting i think he could still have 3 or 4 years. I suppose it all depends on his legs and how far he can go.

However, we wouldn't have fared so badly on Sunday if Gerrard played, so the answer has to be a resounding NO.
 
its really hard not to watch that video and get goosebumps

i doubt i'll see another player as good as him in the middle for a good fuckign while
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45274.msg1334826#msg1334826 date=1305648365]
its really hard not to watch that video and get goosebumps

i doubt i'll see another player as good as him in the middle for a good fuckign while
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45274.msg1334810#msg1334810 date=1305647137]
To answer the original question.

SG Red/Black/White
[/quote]Theres an awful lot of slide tackling in there. Ergo Gerrard is shit.
 
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