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Stick a yes or no next to the following names if you would like them to still be here next August.
Obviously a mass exodus is unlikely but if it were up to you who would you say adios to?

Reina
Cavalieri
Insua
Aurelio
Kelly
Ayala
Degen
Johnson
Aquilani
Agger
Gerrard
Torres
Riera
Benayoun
Kyrgiakos
Maxi
Kuyt
Babel
Mascherano
Lucas
Carragher
Ngog
Plessis
El Zhar
Irwin
Skrtel
Pacheco
Benitez
Lee
Pellegrino
 
So is "yes" an "adios"? Poorly worded.

Reina - Yes
Cavalieri - No
Insua - Fuck NO
Aurelio - No
Kelly - Don't care
Ayala - Don't care
Degen - No
Johnson - Yes
Aquilani - No
Agger - Yes
Gerrard - Yes
Torres - Yes
Riera - No
Benayoun - No
Kyrgiakos - No
Maxi - Yes
Kuyt - No
Babel - No
Mascherano - Yes
Lucas - Fuck NO
Carragher - Yes
Ngog - No
Plessis - No
El Zhar - No
Irwin - Who?
Skrtel - Yes
Pacheco - Yes
Benitez - No
Lee - Don't care
Pellegrino - No
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40024.msg1096792#msg1096792 date=1272627783]
Stick a yes or no next to the following names if you would like them to still be here next August.
Obviously a mass exodus is unlikely but if it were up to you who would you say adios to?

Reina - Y
Cavalieri - Y
Insua - N
Aurelio - N
Kelly - Y
Ayala - Y
Degen - N
Johnson - Y
Aquilani - Y
Agger - Y
Gerrard - Y
Torres - Y
Riera - N
Benayoun - Y
Kyrgiakos - Y
Maxi - Y
Kuyt - Y
Babel - N
Mascherano - Y
Lucas - Y
Carragher - Y
Ngog - N
Plessis - N
El Zhar - N
Irwin - Y
Skrtel - Y
Pacheco - Y
Benitez - N
Lee - Y
Pellegrino - N
[/quote]
 
Reina - Stay
Cavalieri - undecided
Insua - Go
Aurelio - Go
Kelly - Stay
Ayala - Stay
Degen - Go
Johnson - Stay
Aquilani - Stay
Agger - Stay
Gerrard - Stay
Torres - Stay
Riera - Go
Benayoun - Stay
Kyrgiakos - undecided
Maxi - Stay
Kuyt - Stay
Babel - Go
Mascherano - Stay
Lucas - Stay
Carragher - Stay
Ngog - undecided
Plessis - Go
El Zhar - Go
Irwin - undecided
Skrtel - Stay
Pacheco - Stay
Benitez - Depends who's available
Lee - Stay
Pellegrino - undecided
 
Reina- please stay
Cavalieri-don't care
Insua-meh
Aurelio-go sicknote
Kelly-stay
Ayala-stay
Degen-who are you? go
Johnson-stay
Aquilani-stay
Agger-stay
Gerrard-please please stay
Torres-I'd let him go for big money
Riera-meh
Benayoun-meh
Kyrgiakos-stay
Maxi-meh
Kuyt-go, please. Sums up the whole Rafa Benitez era.
Babel-stay
Mascherano- please stay
Lucas-go
Carragher-stay, obv
Ngog-go
Plessis-go
El Zhar-might as well stay
Irwin-know know
Skrtel-stay
Pacheco-stay
Benitez-GO GO GO
Lee-stay
Pellegrino-don't know or care
 
KEEP:
Reina
Kelly
Ayala
Johnson
Aquilani
Agger
Gerrard
Torres
Benayoun
Kyrgiakos
Maxi
Kuyt
Mascherano
Lucas
Carragher
Ngog
Skrtel
Pacheco


DUMP:
Cavalieri
Insua
Aurelio
Degen
Riera
Babel
Plessis
El Zhar
Irwin
Benitez
Lee
Pellegrino
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40024.msg1096792#msg1096792 date=1272627783]
Stick a yes or no next to the following names if you would like them to still be here next August.
Obviously a mass exodus is unlikely but if it were up to you who would you say adios to?

Reina - Y
Cavalieri - Y
Insua - Y
Aurelio - N
Kelly - Y
Ayala - Y
Degen - N
Johnson -Y
Aquilani - Y
Agger -Y
Gerrard-Y
Torres-Y
Riera-N
Benny-Y
Kyrgiakos-Y
Maxi-Y
Kuyt-N
Babel-N
Mascherano-Y
Lucas-N
Carragher-Y
Ngog-N
Plessis-N
El Zhar-N
Irwin-Y
Skrtel-Y
Pacheco-Y
Benitez-N
Lee-Y
Pellegrino-N
[/quote]

So basically Babel/Kuyt/Lucas being the main ones I would like not to be here next season..

Of course Rafa can go also.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40024.msg1096803#msg1096803 date=1272628423]
Why does everyone want to keep Sammy Lee?
[/quote]

Cos we're sentimental like that.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40024.msg1096803#msg1096803 date=1272628423]
Why does everyone want to keep Sammy Lee?
[/quote]


Like a Cheerleader type figue for the new gaffa. People don't link him with Rafa unlike Pelegrino
 
there are about 7 players I definately want to stay beyond that I couldn't give a fuck, and no babel isn't one of the 7
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40024.msg1096792#msg1096792 date=1272627783]
Stick a yes or no next to the following names if you would like them to still be here next August.
Obviously a mass exodus is unlikely but if it were up to you who would you say adios to?

Reina
Cavalieri
Insua
Aurelio
Kelly
Ayala
Degen
Johnson
Aquilani
Agger
Gerrard
Torres
Riera
Benayoun
Kyrgiakos
Maxi
Kuyt
Babel
Mascherano
Lucas
Carragher
Ngog
Plessis
El Zhar
Irwin
Skrtel
Pacheco
Benitez
Lee
Pellegrino
[/quote]
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40024.msg1096792#msg1096792 date=1272627783]
Stick a yes or no next to the following names if you would like them to still be here next August.
Obviously a mass exodus is unlikely but if it were up to you who would you say adios to?

Reina
Cavalieri
Insua
Aurelio
Kelly
Ayala
Degen
Johnson
Aquilani
Agger
Gerrard
Torres
Riera
Benayoun
Kyrgiakos
Maxi
Kuyt
Babel
Mascherano
Lucas
Carragher
Ngog
Plessis
El Zhar
Irwin
Skrtel

Pacheco
Benitez
Lee
Pellegrino
[/quote]
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40024.msg1096810#msg1096810 date=1272629611]
The spide has turned from friendly neighbourhood webslinger into that moody black-costumed version
[/quote]Venom ftw.
 
We should keep

Reina - Stay
Kelly - Stay, I hope he isn't a sicknote though
Ayala - Stay, I'm surprised at how much he has progressed in the last year
Johnson - Deserves a second season, but his defending is troubling...maybe a decent left back and an established defensive partnership might make him look better.
Agger - Stay
Gerrard - Stay
Torres - Stay
Benayoun - Stay
Kyrgiakos -Stay
Maxi - Stay
Kuyt - Stay, on the proviso he is droppable
Mascherano -Stay, please
Carragher - Stay
Ngog - Stay
Irwin - I think I'd keep him for one more season, but I don't know if he will ever make it as his versatility has prevented him from making one position his own
Skrtel - Keep
Pacheco - Keep

Sell
Riera - Sell
Babel - Sell
Lucas - Sell
Plessis - Sell
El Zhar - Sell or shoot


Meh
Cavalieri - Stay unless we can offload for a profit or we need to save money on wages
Insua/Aurelio - One of these 2 needs to stay for backup reasons, although neither are good enough
Degen - Meh, if we can sell get rid, but if not he may as well stay as a right wing back up
Aquilani - Sell, for 14 million. Any less and i would keep him.
Benitez - Depends on the replacement, unless we get a rich new owner we will need to find a manager that uses a similar system so that we don't have to completely rebuild the squad. So Mourinho is the best and least likely option
Lee - See Benitez
Pellegrino - See Benitez
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40024.msg1096792#msg1096792 date=1272627783]
Stick a yes or no next to the following names if you would like them to still be here next August.
Obviously a mass exodus is unlikely but if it were up to you who would you say adios to?

Reina YES
Cavalieri Why bother?
Insua YES
Aurelio NO
Kelly YES
Ayala YES
Degen NO
Johnson YES
Aquilani YES
Agger YES
Gerrard YES
Torres YES
Riera NO
Benayoun YES
Kyrgiakos NO, give kelly ayala or that Bilbao kid a chance
Maxi YES
Kuyt YES
Babel YES
Mascherano YES
Lucas NO
Carragher YES
Ngog YES
Plessis NO
El Zhar NO
Irwin NO
Skrtel NO, we need cash and get we should give the Bilbao kid a shot.
Pacheco YES
Benitez NO
Lee YES
Pellegrino NO
[/quote]
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40024.msg1096792#msg1096792 date=1272627783]
Stick a yes or no next to the following names if you would like them to still be here next August.
Obviously a mass exodus is unlikely but if it were up to you who would you say adios to?

Reina stay
Cavalieri stay
Insua stay
Aurelio go
Kelly stay
Ayala go
Degen go
Johnson stay
Aquilani stay
Agger stay
Gerrard stay
Torres stay
Riera go
Benayoun go
Kyrgiakos stay
Maxi stay
Kuyt stay
Babel go
Mascherano stay
Lucas stay
Carragher stay
Ngog go
Plessis go
El Zhar go
Irwin go
Skrtel stay
Pacheco stay
Benitez go
Lee go
Pellegrino go
[/quote]
 
1. How much money are you expecting to recoup following the mass exodus some of you guys are wishing for?

2. How many players do we need?

3. Do we have any reserves or youths that are good enough to replace our squad players?
 
Reina Y
Cavalieri I'd have kept him, but he's off anyhow for family reasons
Insua N - I thought he might make it after his first few appearances but he hasn't progressed
Aurelio N - good enough but too fragile
Kelly Y
Ayala Y
Degen N - not good enough for us, but we might yet get something for him from a German club
Johnson Y
Aquilani Y provided his head's right and his heart's in it
Agger Y
Gerrard Y
Torres Y
Riera Y
Benayoun Y
Kyrgiakos Y - good enough as fourth choice
Maxi Y
Kuyt Y
Babel N - much better from him in terms of effort last night, but it shouldn't have been so noticeable in the first place
Mascherano Y
Lucas ?
Carragher Y
Ngog Y
Plessis N
El Zhar N
Irwin ?
Skrtel Y
Pacheco Y
Benitez If we don't get fourth, regrettably N
Lee ?
Pellegrino N
 
Brendan why would you sell Aquilani? I know you hadn't watched him prior to coming, and I know you were sceptical, and I KNOW this season has been a mess for him, but surely you've seen enough now to know that he's a fine player?
I understand your hatred of Lucas, Insua, Ngog etc because they aren't very good, but Aquilani is VERY good, and whenever he has started he has almost always performed. 13 starts with 2 goals and a bunch of assists not to mention how well he's played generally. I justdontgetit?
Is it just the injuries? Because he really ought to have been played a lot more than he has.
 
Lazy mode, I concur with Bunnyman's list except I'd have N'Gog on the dump list.

[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40024.msg1096800#msg1096800 date=1272628256]
KEEP:
Reina
Kelly
Ayala
Johnson
Aquilani
Agger
Gerrard
Torres
Benayoun
Kyrgiakos
Maxi
Kuyt
Mascherano
Lucas
Carragher
Ngog
Skrtel
Pacheco


DUMP:
Cavalieri
Insua
Aurelio
Degen
Riera
Babel
Plessis
El Zhar
Irwin
Benitez
Lee
Pellegrino
[/quote]
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40024.msg1096810#msg1096810 date=1272629611]
The spide has turned from friendly neighbourhood webslinger into that moody black-costumed version
[/quote]

and we're not talking the movie version either where I walk down the street pointing at pretty women and dance in jazz clubs.
 
STAY

Reina
Cavalieri
Kelly
Ayala
Johnson
Aquilani
Agger
Gerrard
Torres
Riera
Benayoun
Kyrgiakos
Maxi
Mascherano
Carragher
Irwin
Skrtel
Pacheco

GO

Benitez
Lee
Pellegrino
Ngog
Plessis
El Zhar
Lucas
Kuyt
Babel
Degen
Insua
Aurelio
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40024.msg1096794#msg1096794 date=1272627938]
So is "yes" an "adios"? Poorly worded.

Reina - Yes
Cavalieri - No
Insua - Fuck NO
Aurelio - No
Kelly - Don't care
Ayala - Don't care
Degen - No
Johnson - Yes
Aquilani - No
Agger - Yes
Gerrard - Yes
Torres - Yes
Riera - No
Benayoun - No
Kyrgiakos - No
Maxi - Yes
Kuyt - No
Babel - No
Mascherano - Yes
Lucas - Fuck NO
Carragher - Yes
Ngog - No
Plessis - No
El Zhar - No
Irwin - Who?
Skrtel - Yes
Pacheco - Yes
Benitez - No
Lee - Don't care
Pellegrino - No

[/quote]

Aqua showed enough last night to deserve another season IMO.

all depends on whether the new manager wants to play with two up top
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40024.msg1096825#msg1096825 date=1272630784]
Brendan why would you sell Aquilani? I know you hadn't watched him prior to coming, and I know you were sceptical, and I KNOW this season has been a mess for him, but surely you've seen enough now to know that he's a fine player?
I understand your hatred of Lucas, Insua, Ngog etc because they aren't very good, but Aquilani is VERY good, and whenever he has started he has almost always performed. 13 starts with 2 goals and a bunch of assists not to mention how well he's played generally. I justdontgetit?
Is it just the injuries? Because he really ought to have been played a lot more than he has.
[/quote]

I'd throw the same question to you about Benayoun Oncy.
He's hot and cold which makes him unpredictable for the starting 11, but the guy is at the very least a quality squad player, and I think that we still need people in that role.
 
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=40024.msg1096834#msg1096834 date=1272631414]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40024.msg1096825#msg1096825 date=1272630784]
Brendan why would you sell Aquilani? I know you hadn't watched him prior to coming, and I know you were sceptical, and I KNOW this season has been a mess for him, but surely you've seen enough now to know that he's a fine player?
I understand your hatred of Lucas, Insua, Ngog etc because they aren't very good, but Aquilani is VERY good, and whenever he has started he has almost always performed. 13 starts with 2 goals and a bunch of assists not to mention how well he's played generally. I justdontgetit?
Is it just the injuries? Because he really ought to have been played a lot more than he has.
[/quote]

I'd throw the same question to you about Benayoun Oncy.
He's hot and cold which makes him unpredictable for the starting 11, but the guy is at the very least a quality squad player, and I think that we still need people in that role.
[/quote]Simply because I don't like him on the wing mate. We have Gerrard and for my money Aquilani who are better players in the hole. I just don't think we need three of them. If gerrard were to leave I'd want Yossi to stay. But he's wasted out wide, and where else will he be played? I'd rather see Pacheco as understudy to Gerrard and Aquilani and some proper widemen brought in. Nothing against Yossi. He's an ok player.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40024.msg1096842#msg1096842 date=1272632003]
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=40024.msg1096834#msg1096834 date=1272631414]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40024.msg1096825#msg1096825 date=1272630784]
Brendan why would you sell Aquilani? I know you hadn't watched him prior to coming, and I know you were sceptical, and I KNOW this season has been a mess for him, but surely you've seen enough now to know that he's a fine player?
I understand your hatred of Lucas, Insua, Ngog etc because they aren't very good, but Aquilani is VERY good, and whenever he has started he has almost always performed. 13 starts with 2 goals and a bunch of assists not to mention how well he's played generally. I justdontgetit?
Is it just the injuries? Because he really ought to have been played a lot more than he has.
[/quote]

I'd throw the same question to you about Benayoun Oncy.
He's hot and cold which makes him unpredictable for the starting 11, but the guy is at the very least a quality squad player, and I think that we still need people in that role.
[/quote]Simply because I don't like him on the wing mate. We have Gerrard and for my money Aquilani who are better players in the hole. I just don't think we need three of them. If gerrard were to leave I'd want Yossi to stay. But he's wasted out wide, and where else will he be played? I'd rather see Pacheco as understudy to Gerrard and Aquilani and some proper widemen brought in. Nothing against Yossi. He's an ok player.
[/quote]

That I agree 100% with you. I am so tired of having "wide" players leaving their area drifitng inside. First of all they limit our options out wide. Second of all they limit our options inside as they fill up rooms and make the area more crowded and easier to defend.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40024.msg1096792#msg1096792 date=1272627783]

Reina
Cavalieri
Insua
Aurelio

Kelly
Ayala
Degen
Johnson
Aquilani
Agger
Gerrard
Torres
Riera
Benayoun
Kyrgiakos
Maxi
Kuyt
Babel
Mascherano
Lucas
Carragher
Ngog
Plessis
El Zhar
Irwin

Skrtel
Pacheco
Benitez
Lee
Pellegrino
[/quote]
 
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