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You'd think Klopp would've looked to get him involved this season seeing as he's not reluctant to blood the kids through. All Moreno is doing is blocking his progress and costing us games.

Exactly. And Moreno is a different player to Robertson, but Lewis, by nature and design (he says he studies him carefully every game), is pretty much a carbon copy, so it would be a much smoother transition if he was given a few chances. And he's a local lad, a big reds fan, who's been with us since he was six. It would be great to see him breakthrough.

Here's a bit from last year's Echo about him:


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He's an attacking left-back who loves Liverpool, making tackles and hates losing – Scouse wonderkid Adam Lewis ticks all the boxes to get Reds fans excited.

Even Anfield legend Steven Gerrard who is careful not to get carried away when talking about the potential of youngsters in his Under-18s side, struggled to hold back his enthusiasm, declaring: “Going forward, I haven't seen anyone as good as him at that age in terms of quality and what he can deliver in the final third.”

But just who is the hot prospect who is making waves at the Kirkby Academy?

Born on November 8 1999, Lewis, who who attended Rainhill High School, turned 18 earlier this month.

Despite his tender years he's already a veteran at the club as he's been with the Reds since Under-6s level.

He's also had a dramatic shift in his fledgling career having previously played in the number 10 role as an attacking midfield playmaker.

Lewis' cheeky demeanour belies a steely determination – he describes himself as “funny, handsome and good to be around” - as he has bounced back from a broken leg while playing for the Under-16 two seasons ago.

When asked to describe LFC in three words, Lewis says: “Fantastic, amazing, love” and when speaking on the prospect of playing for the senior team, he declares: “I’m a Liverpool supporter, I want to be a Liverpool player and it was 100 per cent Liverpool for me.

“It means absolutely everything for me to put on that red shirt every week. Every time I put on that red shirt I get really excited.”

At school, PE was predictably his favourite subject but away from football he also enjoys “a bit of tennis” of which he remarks “I'm quite good at.”

Although Lewis has put his midfield days behind him and is currently operating at left-wing back, the respect between himself and coach Gerrard remains mutual.

The younger man admits its an honour to be making his way in the game under one of football's all-time greats and although he was only five at the time of the 2005 Champions League final, he describes Istanbul as the greatest game he's ever watched.

Asked what it's like to learn his trade under an Anfield icon, Lewis says: “It’s unbelievable. He’s my dream player and I looked up to him from when I was very young.

"He gives you so much confidence and he’s just like a normal person now. I don’t just see him as a legend now, as he is a coach and he is here to help us because he has been in that situation before.”

Gerrard told the ECHO: “Adam's been doing it for us all season long. I'm been singing his praises all along.
“If Adam can keep his consistency up I don't think he'll be around this team much longer.

“I want to keep him for as long as I can but for me he's such a threat on the left side.”
 
I just went and watched a few videos of him on YouTube. He looks a real talent, and yeah, he looks a carbon copy of Robertson. If anything, he seems to have a more technical edge about him, scoring free kicks and penalties, etc. He also looks like one of those players that could play anywhere on the pitch and do himself justice.
 
I just went and watched a few videos of him on YouTube. He looks a real talent, and yeah, he looks a carbon copy of Robertson. If anything, he seems to have a more technical edge about him, scoring free kicks and penalties, etc. He also looks like one of those players that could play anywhere on the pitch and do himself justice.

Yes, he's definitely better than Robertson in terms of shooting. And as you say, he's versatile - he's still playing the odd game further up the field - but unlike TAA I think he's likely to stay as a defender in the long term. He certainly seems to be really working on making himself the second choice LB. Unless we're putting Moreno in the shop window by playing him, I cannot understand how he's still blocking the way for Lewis to progress.
 
I WIN,
.......agreed you did mention him in the question, he has a Champs League medal, but I consider hime a worse footballer than me...
 
Nah, as you said he has a champions league medal and we actually won stuff while he was at the club.

He was a player with serious limitations, but he knew them, and he wasn't that bad defensively.

With dumb Albert, however, I can't think of anything he's good at other than being quicker than average. Even that is negated by the fact he's never in the right place to use his speed. He offers zero. Less than zero. He takes away from the team.
 
Adam Lewis looks superb everytime I see him play.

Then again Jones does too and he didn't look ready in the cup.
 
Adam Lewis looks superb everytime I see him play.

Then again Jones does too and he didn't look ready in the cup.

Im inclined to give young players a pass when they are thrown into a makeshift side thats never played together. If we want to asses the abilities of Jones, Hoever etc in terms of readiness to play first team football then it should really be in a situation where the line-up and tactics is at least broadly similar to the first team.

The cup game turned into something of a farce given how Klopp approached it. Other than removing the debut burden from the young guys I dont think it was very productive.
 
Im inclined to give young players a pass when they are thrown into a makeshift side thats never played together. If we want to asses the abilities of Jones, Hoever etc in terms of readiness to play first team football then it should really be in a situation where the line-up and tactics is at least broadly similar to the first team.

The cup game turned into something of a farce given how Klopp approached it. Other than removing the debut burden from the young guys I dont think it was very productive.

Hoever looks ready to me. Agreed it’s hard for young players to cope in that situation but I was surprised how poor Jones was considering his general arrogant nature.

I’d have love to have seen Lewis if the team was gonna be that young
 
We'd have probably been twice as good on Monday if Robertson played. He's that good and Moreno is that bad that I'm doubtless we'd have won the match, and Jones would have looked a lot better.
 
I agree that Moreno is a dog turd, and I want him gone & upgraded; but everyone, in their damning of him, seem to forget he was our first choice left back for the first 3-4 months last season and did OK. He wasn't brilliant, he was just OK, but he certainly didn't cost us every single match he played in, as some would have us believe
 
I can't remember the detail but didn't we drastically improve after the first three months of last season?
 
Don't get me wrong, Robertson was definitely a massive upgrade, and Virgil had an impact on our improvement as well. Its just that Moreno wasn't a walking disaster for those 3 months
 
Fair enough, I can't really remember. I do know that even when he seems to be playing well you know that a fuck up is bound to happen sometime soon
 
How often does Hoever play CB for the youth? I recall an interview with Klopp mentioned that he had done it once, showing his adaptability. If that is the case, and one of his first games at CB was against a strong Wolves team then that is even more impressive. I just hope he gets the chance to be surrounded by capable and composed defenders & GKs as that chaos with Ming, Camacho, Fabs, Milner & Moreno all around him must have been confusing as hell!

He looks like he is going to massively bulk out in the coming years too. I bet 21 year old Hoever will be a fucking unit.
 
How often does Hoever play CB for the youth? I recall an interview with Klopp mentioned that he had done it once, showing his adaptability. If that is the case, and one of his first games at CB was against a strong Wolves team then that is even more impressive. I just hope he gets the chance to be surrounded by capable and composed defenders & GKs as that chaos with Ming, Camacho, Fabs, Milner & Moreno all around him must have been confusing as hell!

He looks like he is going to massively bulk out in the coming years too. I bet 21 year old Hoever will be a fucking unit.

And a red legend With 3 PL and 2 CL titles to his name already!!!
 
Moreno vs Seville was tough to watch. He was beaten twice just at the start of the second half and we never recovered. We were carved open time and time again his side.

Moreno vs Norwich also sticks out. Moreno did he best to give away penalties lunging in and hacking players from behind. It was the game Lallana scored a late winner one Sat morning.

His sheer stupidity irks me.
 
Someone put it very well - he's the type of bloke who'd high five people at funerals. He's utterly hapless. He's been content to swan around with that stupid grin on his face, acting as party organiser for the South Americans, and I bet when he finally fucks off he'll tell journalists about his 'hell' at the club. He's the most brainless player we've ever had in ANY position.
 
I think Moreno must be the worst, especially if factoring in how much we paid for him. And yet … he was more than adequate in the first half of last season. People were revising opinions on him. Then he picked up an injury and, with appearances very limited on return, never again looked close to the early-season player. Some players need confidence, and being in and (mostly) out of the team does not help that.
I remember being on the Kop in the 80s with Aston Villa and the much maligned Steve Staunton visiting. The callous song broke out "Thank you very much for taking Staunton, thank you very much, thank you very, very much". If I remember correctly, he did well at Villa and we ended up buying him back. I'm not putting him forward as our worst left back, but I'd say it is probably the position we have struggled the most with over the years.
 
If Moreno was 10 percent slower, I'm not sure he'd be a professional footballer at all. He's bailed himself out from stupid positioning with speed so many times, but he can't against quality opposition, and he just can't learn to do better. He can't fucking learn anything. Now that he's been rightly berated about losing the ball with his impetuous play in the opposition half, he seems to have digested the information as: do nothing. He's unbelievably one footed, but doesn't cross well. At his core he looks like he has much of the base of a good fullback, but the older he gets, the more everyone realizes this is it. Our system of play is also harder on the fullbacks than most, he's got the endurance, he's got the athleticism, but it demands all sorts of decision making. Its as though its designed to point out all his faults.
 
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