Henchoz at his best was an excellent defender - no frills, but it took a very good player to get past him.
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44681.msg1347517#msg1347517 date=1307801560]
Henchoz at his best was an excellent defender - no frills, but it took a very good player to get past him.
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Made a fine goaly in the 2001 cup final also... good player Henchoz.
Henchoz at his best was an excellent defender - no frills, but it took a very good player to get past him.
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Made a fine goaly in the 2001 cup final also... good player Henchoz.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44681.msg1347360#msg1347360 date=1307765356]
I know very little of him, but signing a defender from a relegated club doesn't fill me with much confidence.
There must be better out there.
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You're conveniently leaving out the fact that Dann missed a large chunk of the season through injury which didn't help Birmingham's cause to say the least.
I know very little of him, but signing a defender from a relegated club doesn't fill me with much confidence.
There must be better out there.
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You're conveniently leaving out the fact that Dann missed a large chunk of the season through injury which didn't help Birmingham's cause to say the least.
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Squiggles
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That's hardly reassuring.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44681.msg1347546#msg1347546 date=1307811005]
That's hardly reassuring.
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Wasn't my intention to reassure you mate, if you don't rate Dann that's fine, but using Birmingham's relegation to back up your argument is harsh when Dann missed half the season.
For what it's worth, i don't think it's a coincidence that Birmingham struggled when he was out.
That's hardly reassuring.
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Wasn't my intention to reassure you mate, if you don't rate Dann that's fine, but using Birmingham's relegation to back up your argument is harsh when Dann missed half the season.
For what it's worth, i don't think it's a coincidence that Birmingham struggled when he was out.
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44681.msg1347546#msg1347546 date=1307811005]
That's hardly reassuring.
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Wasn't my intention to reassure you mate, if you don't rate Dann that's fine, but using Birmingham's relegation to back up your argument is harsh when Dann missed half the season.
For what it's worth, i don't think it's a coincidence that Birmingham struggled when he was out.
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Succinctly put and I also happen to agree.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44681.msg1347546#msg1347546 date=1307811005]
That's hardly reassuring.
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Wasn't my intention to reassure you mate, if you don't rate Dann that's fine, but using Birmingham's relegation to back up your argument is harsh when Dann missed half the season.
For what it's worth, i don't think it's a coincidence that Birmingham struggled when he was out.
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Succinctly put and I also happen to agree.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44681.msg1347517#msg1347517 date=1307801560]
Henchoz at his best was an excellent defender - no frills, but it took a very good player to get past him.
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Henchoz was a solid defender but obviously not in the same class as Carra or Sami. Which is really the kind of quality we should be after.
Henchoz at his best was an excellent defender - no frills, but it took a very good player to get past him.
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Henchoz was a solid defender but obviously not in the same class as Carra or Sami. Which is really the kind of quality we should be after.
If he's as good as henchoz then great. I have my doubts though.
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44681.msg1347546#msg1347546 date=1307811005]
That's hardly reassuring.
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Wasn't my intention to reassure you mate, if you don't rate Dann that's fine, but using Birmingham's relegation to back up your argument is harsh when Dann missed half the season.
For what it's worth, i don't think it's a coincidence that Birmingham struggled when he was out.
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Yep. It is unfair to use the relegation tag against him when he did miss so much time out. I'm still not overly sold on Dann. To be honest I haven't got a semi for any of transfers target yet.
*Waits for the Mata and Hazard links*
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44681.msg1347546#msg1347546 date=1307811005]
That's hardly reassuring.
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Wasn't my intention to reassure you mate, if you don't rate Dann that's fine, but using Birmingham's relegation to back up your argument is harsh when Dann missed half the season.
For what it's worth, i don't think it's a coincidence that Birmingham struggled when he was out.
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Yep. It is unfair to use the relegation tag against him when he did miss so much time out. I'm still not overly sold on Dann. To be honest I haven't got a semi for any of transfers target yet.
*Waits for the Mata and Hazard links*
I think the reason Squiggles said it's hardly reassuring is the fact that he spent half the season out so Dann seems to be injury prone too.
If Wenger rates Scott Dann I'm even less sure I want him. Wenger's hit rate with defenders is about the same as Rafa4's. 😉
Please let the blueslime buy Wes Brown. Please.
Please let the blueslime buy Wes Brown. Please.
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348939#msg1348939 date=1308061961]
Great stats .. thanks for those Binny. Compares very well for a 20 yr old against a 26 yr old. Seems to fit the criteria.
However the stat that makes me say yes is ...... 6' 5" !!! A dominating CB ? Sign the Mutha !
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20 and 26 were appearance numbers not ages ??? ???
Dann's just gone 24
Great stats .. thanks for those Binny. Compares very well for a 20 yr old against a 26 yr old. Seems to fit the criteria.
However the stat that makes me say yes is ...... 6' 5" !!! A dominating CB ? Sign the Mutha !
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20 and 26 were appearance numbers not ages ??? ???
Dann's just gone 24
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348939#msg1348939 date=1308061961]
Great stats .. thanks for those Binny. Compares very well for a 20 yr old against a 26 yr old. Seems to fit the criteria.
However the stat that makes me say yes is ...... 6' 5" !!! A dominating CB ? Sign the Mutha !
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He's nowhere near 6'5'' he's probably not much more than 6'0'' and he's definitely not dominating. I'm not surprised Wenger likes him, he's very similar to Koscielny, Squillaci etc in that he's decent on the ball but doesn't like to play against agressive players like Tevez, Carroll, Rooney.
Please Kenny, listen to Comolli, we don't want/need Dann.
Great stats .. thanks for those Binny. Compares very well for a 20 yr old against a 26 yr old. Seems to fit the criteria.
However the stat that makes me say yes is ...... 6' 5" !!! A dominating CB ? Sign the Mutha !
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He's nowhere near 6'5'' he's probably not much more than 6'0'' and he's definitely not dominating. I'm not surprised Wenger likes him, he's very similar to Koscielny, Squillaci etc in that he's decent on the ball but doesn't like to play against agressive players like Tevez, Carroll, Rooney.
Please Kenny, listen to Comolli, we don't want/need Dann.
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44681.msg1348943#msg1348943 date=1308062529]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348939#msg1348939 date=1308061961]
Great stats .. thanks for those Binny. Compares very well for a 20 yr old against a 26 yr old. Seems to fit the criteria.
However the stat that makes me say yes is ...... 6' 5" !!! A dominating CB ? Sign the Mutha !
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He's nowhere near 6'5'' he's probably not much more than 6'0'' and he's definitely not dominating. I'm not surprised Wenger likes him, he's very similar to Koscielny, Squillaci etc in that he's decent on the ball but doesn't like to play against agressive players like Tevez, Carroll, Rooney.
Please Kenny, listen to Comolli, we don't want/need Dann.
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Just checked a couple of websites, one has him at 6'1" and the other at 6'2".
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348939#msg1348939 date=1308061961]
Great stats .. thanks for those Binny. Compares very well for a 20 yr old against a 26 yr old. Seems to fit the criteria.
However the stat that makes me say yes is ...... 6' 5" !!! A dominating CB ? Sign the Mutha !
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He's nowhere near 6'5'' he's probably not much more than 6'0'' and he's definitely not dominating. I'm not surprised Wenger likes him, he's very similar to Koscielny, Squillaci etc in that he's decent on the ball but doesn't like to play against agressive players like Tevez, Carroll, Rooney.
Please Kenny, listen to Comolli, we don't want/need Dann.
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Just checked a couple of websites, one has him at 6'1" and the other at 6'2".
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[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348939#msg1348939 date=1308061961]
Great stats .. thanks for those Binny. Compares very well for a 20 yr old against a 26 yr old. Seems to fit the criteria.
However the stat that makes me say yes is ...... 6' 5" !!! A dominating CB ? Sign the Mutha !
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20 and 26 were appearance numbers not ages ??? ???
Dann's just gone 24
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Fuck. You and Pesam have just trashed my evening. Bugger.
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348939#msg1348939 date=1308061961]
Great stats .. thanks for those Binny. Compares very well for a 20 yr old against a 26 yr old. Seems to fit the criteria.
However the stat that makes me say yes is ...... 6' 5" !!! A dominating CB ? Sign the Mutha !
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20 and 26 were appearance numbers not ages ??? ???
Dann's just gone 24
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Fuck. You and Pesam have just trashed my evening. Bugger.
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348948#msg1348948 date=1308062905]
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=44681.msg1348941#msg1348941 date=1308062181]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348939#msg1348939 date=1308061961]
Great stats .. thanks for those Binny. Compares very well for a 20 yr old against a 26 yr old. Seems to fit the criteria.
However the stat that makes me say yes is ...... 6' 5" !!! A dominating CB ? Sign the Mutha !
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20 and 26 were appearance numbers not ages ??? ???
Dann's just gone 24
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Fuck. You and Pesam have just trashed my evening. Bugger.
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FFS Froggy you were getting overly-giddy about Scott Dann! He shouldn't even register on the giddymeter.
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=44681.msg1348941#msg1348941 date=1308062181]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348939#msg1348939 date=1308061961]
Great stats .. thanks for those Binny. Compares very well for a 20 yr old against a 26 yr old. Seems to fit the criteria.
However the stat that makes me say yes is ...... 6' 5" !!! A dominating CB ? Sign the Mutha !
[/quote]
20 and 26 were appearance numbers not ages ??? ???
Dann's just gone 24
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Fuck. You and Pesam have just trashed my evening. Bugger.
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FFS Froggy you were getting overly-giddy about Scott Dann! He shouldn't even register on the giddymeter.
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44681.msg1348953#msg1348953 date=1308064031]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348948#msg1348948 date=1308062905]
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=44681.msg1348941#msg1348941 date=1308062181]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348939#msg1348939 date=1308061961]
Great stats .. thanks for those Binny. Compares very well for a 20 yr old against a 26 yr old. Seems to fit the criteria.
However the stat that makes me say yes is ...... 6' 5" !!! A dominating CB ? Sign the Mutha !
[/quote]
20 and 26 were appearance numbers not ages ??? ???
Dann's just gone 24
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Fuck. You and Pesam have just trashed my evening. Bugger.
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FFS Froggy you were getting overly-giddy about Scott Dann! He shouldn't even register on the giddymeter.
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😉
*Pulls tongue out of cheek.*
I can't even remember seeing him play mate so have no opinion on him whatsoever !
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348948#msg1348948 date=1308062905]
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=44681.msg1348941#msg1348941 date=1308062181]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44681.msg1348939#msg1348939 date=1308061961]
Great stats .. thanks for those Binny. Compares very well for a 20 yr old against a 26 yr old. Seems to fit the criteria.
However the stat that makes me say yes is ...... 6' 5" !!! A dominating CB ? Sign the Mutha !
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20 and 26 were appearance numbers not ages ??? ???
Dann's just gone 24
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Fuck. You and Pesam have just trashed my evening. Bugger.
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FFS Froggy you were getting overly-giddy about Scott Dann! He shouldn't even register on the giddymeter.
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😉
*Pulls tongue out of cheek.*
I can't even remember seeing him play mate so have no opinion on him whatsoever !
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44681.msg1348950#msg1348950 date=1308063674]
Binny where do you pull these stats from?
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The 1st one is from http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11979_6973293,00.html (SkySports) and the other 2 are from http://www.anfieldindex.com/2623/liverpool-fc-transfers-centre-scouting-stats.html (AnfieldIndex). 🙂
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44681.msg1348950#msg1348950 date=1308063674]
Binny where do you pull these stats from?
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The 1st one is from http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11979_6973293,00.html (SkySports) and the other 2 are from http://www.anfieldindex.com/2623/liverpool-fc-transfers-centre-scouting-stats.html (AnfieldIndex). 🙂
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=44681.msg1347516#msg1347516 date=1307801147]
I think we need someone better than a Henchoz though.
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Henchoz was a terrific defender for us. I'd take another one of him in an absolute heartbeat.
The fact he played alongside Hyypia did him a disservice, cos he was an excellent defender in his own right. He was just unfairly labelled the weaker of the two because Sami was such a collosus.
I think we need someone better than a Henchoz though.
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Henchoz was a terrific defender for us. I'd take another one of him in an absolute heartbeat.
The fact he played alongside Hyypia did him a disservice, cos he was an excellent defender in his own right. He was just unfairly labelled the weaker of the two because Sami was such a collosus.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44681.msg1349361#msg1349361 date=1308094725]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=44681.msg1347516#msg1347516 date=1307801147]
I think we need someone better than a Henchoz though.
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Henchoz was a terrific defender for us. I'd take another one of him in an absolute heartbeat.
The fact he played alongside Hyypia did him a disservice, cos he was an excellent defender in his own right. He was just unfairly labelled the weaker of the two because Sami was such a collosus.
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Indeed. Him and Sami were the best central defensive pair in the Premiership for two seasons.
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=44681.msg1347516#msg1347516 date=1307801147]
I think we need someone better than a Henchoz though.
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Henchoz was a terrific defender for us. I'd take another one of him in an absolute heartbeat.
The fact he played alongside Hyypia did him a disservice, cos he was an excellent defender in his own right. He was just unfairly labelled the weaker of the two because Sami was such a collosus.
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Indeed. Him and Sami were the best central defensive pair in the Premiership for two seasons.
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Squiggles
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Yep, Henchoz always deserved more love thanehe got.
His departure was far too quiet.
His departure was far too quiet.
Henchoz was a good defender obviously. He was never Sami or Carra class though, which was my point. And when we're looking for a new CB, I'd rather we got someone who could be as good as Sami or Carra (which is easier said than done of course).
What're your opinions on Agger/Skrtel v. Henchoz btw?
What're your opinions on Agger/Skrtel v. Henchoz btw?
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=44681.msg1349399#msg1349399 date=1308113632]
Henchoz was a good defender obviously. He was never Sami or Carra class though, which was my point. And when we're looking for a new CB, I'd rather we got someone who could be as good as Sami or Carra (which is easier said than done of course).
What're your opinions on Agger/Skrtel v. Henchoz btw?
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Different types of defender really, but if you were giving me the choice I'd choose Henchoz ever day of the week.
Henchoz was a good defender obviously. He was never Sami or Carra class though, which was my point. And when we're looking for a new CB, I'd rather we got someone who could be as good as Sami or Carra (which is easier said than done of course).
What're your opinions on Agger/Skrtel v. Henchoz btw?
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Different types of defender really, but if you were giving me the choice I'd choose Henchoz ever day of the week.
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