I'd have a fully fit/injury free agger over henchoz...so henchoz it is.
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44681.msg1349409#msg1349409 date=1308118519]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=44681.msg1349399#msg1349399 date=1308113632]
Henchoz was a good defender obviously. He was never Sami or Carra class though, which was my point. And when we're looking for a new CB, I'd rather we got someone who could be as good as Sami or Carra (which is easier said than done of course).
What're your opinions on Agger/Skrtel v. Henchoz btw?
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Different types of defender really, but if you were giving me the choice I'd choose Henchoz ever day of the week.
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Same here. Henchoz was the absolute archetype of a defender whose quality was proven by the fact that nobody ever noticed him. He'd have tackled a tank for LFC, and the outcome would have been anybody's guess too.
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=44681.msg1349399#msg1349399 date=1308113632]
Henchoz was a good defender obviously. He was never Sami or Carra class though, which was my point. And when we're looking for a new CB, I'd rather we got someone who could be as good as Sami or Carra (which is easier said than done of course).
What're your opinions on Agger/Skrtel v. Henchoz btw?
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Different types of defender really, but if you were giving me the choice I'd choose Henchoz ever day of the week.
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Same here. Henchoz was the absolute archetype of a defender whose quality was proven by the fact that nobody ever noticed him. He'd have tackled a tank for LFC, and the outcome would have been anybody's guess too.
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44681.msg1349409#msg1349409 date=1308118519]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=44681.msg1349399#msg1349399 date=1308113632]
Henchoz was a good defender obviously. He was never Sami or Carra class though, which was my point. And when we're looking for a new CB, I'd rather we got someone who could be as good as Sami or Carra (which is easier said than done of course).
What're your opinions on Agger/Skrtel v. Henchoz btw?
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Different types of defender really, but if you were giving me the choice I'd choose Henchoz ever day of the week.
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Same here. Henchoz was the absolute archetype of a defender whose quality was proven by the fact that nobody ever noticed him. He'd have tackled a tank for LFC, and the outcome would have been anybody's guess too.
[/quote]Good stand in keeper too 😀
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44681.msg1349409#msg1349409 date=1308118519]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=44681.msg1349399#msg1349399 date=1308113632]
Henchoz was a good defender obviously. He was never Sami or Carra class though, which was my point. And when we're looking for a new CB, I'd rather we got someone who could be as good as Sami or Carra (which is easier said than done of course).
What're your opinions on Agger/Skrtel v. Henchoz btw?
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Different types of defender really, but if you were giving me the choice I'd choose Henchoz ever day of the week.
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Same here. Henchoz was the absolute archetype of a defender whose quality was proven by the fact that nobody ever noticed him. He'd have tackled a tank for LFC, and the outcome would have been anybody's guess too.
[/quote]Good stand in keeper too 😀
Arf. I still don't know how we got away with that. ;D
[quote author=Wilko link=topic=44681.msg1349565#msg1349565 date=1308132621]
A few misguided comments about Henchoz but thankfully the majority remember him accurately.
He was an absolutely phenomenal defender.
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henchoz was a great defender but he had sami beside him (argubly our best ever centre back) and hamann shielding him (argubly our best ever holding midfielder).
A few misguided comments about Henchoz but thankfully the majority remember him accurately.
He was an absolutely phenomenal defender.
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henchoz was a great defender but he had sami beside him (argubly our best ever centre back) and hamann shielding him (argubly our best ever holding midfielder).
[quote author=ILD link=topic=44681.msg1349621#msg1349621 date=1308139039]
Remember the rumours about Sami and Henchoz falling out over one of them sleeping with the other's wife. Henchoz was moved on abruptly wasn't he?
What was that story again?
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Not sure. Haven't taken a taxi cab ride for a while.
Remember the rumours about Sami and Henchoz falling out over one of them sleeping with the other's wife. Henchoz was moved on abruptly wasn't he?
What was that story again?
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Not sure. Haven't taken a taxi cab ride for a while.
Stoke have made a club-record £12million bid for Birmingham centre half Scott Dann.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2004468/Stoke-steal-march-Liverpool-Spurs-12m-Dann-bid.html#ixzz1PUAHXv9Z
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Don't we have the upper hand in these negotiations considering that Dann desperately wants to join us?
I mean he can just turn down Stoke and Tottenham. Birmingham will then be forced to accept our somewhat generous bid of £8-10 Million....
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2004468/Stoke-steal-march-Liverpool-Spurs-12m-Dann-bid.html#ixzz1PUAHXv9Z
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Don't we have the upper hand in these negotiations considering that Dann desperately wants to join us?
I mean he can just turn down Stoke and Tottenham. Birmingham will then be forced to accept our somewhat generous bid of £8-10 Million....
Depends on their need to sell isn't it? His remaining length of contract, the wage he's on, whether they manage to offload other fringe players or high earners etc. Else, they could see this as since Stoke are able to come up with £12m, the 'bigger' clubs should be able to afford more.
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=44681.msg1351755#msg1351755 date=1308486083]
£8 million maximum in my view, taking into account he's now playing for a Championship Club.
£15 million price tag is quite frankly ridiculous.
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This whole window has been ridiculous, Garr.
Remember that we paid like £4-5 Million for Agger...
£8 million maximum in my view, taking into account he's now playing for a Championship Club.
£15 million price tag is quite frankly ridiculous.
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This whole window has been ridiculous, Garr.
Remember that we paid like £4-5 Million for Agger...
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=44681.msg1351762#msg1351762 date=1308486730]
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=44681.msg1351755#msg1351755 date=1308486083]
£8 million maximum in my view, taking into account he's now playing for a Championship Club.
£15 million price tag is quite frankly ridiculous.
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This whole window has been ridiculous, Garr.
Remember that we paid like £4-5 Million for Agger...
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I know, we were fucking fleeced
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44681.msg1351762#msg1351762 date=1308486730]
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=44681.msg1351755#msg1351755 date=1308486083]
£8 million maximum in my view, taking into account he's now playing for a Championship Club.
£15 million price tag is quite frankly ridiculous.
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This whole window has been ridiculous, Garr.
Remember that we paid like £4-5 Million for Agger...
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I know, we were fucking fleeced
Re: Re: Re: Scott Dann
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44681.msg1351772#msg1351772 date=1308491570]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44681.msg1351762#msg1351762 date=1308486730]
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=44681.msg1351755#msg1351755 date=1308486083]
£8 million maximum in my view, taking into account he's now playing for a Championship Club.
£15 million price tag is quite frankly ridiculous.
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This whole window has been ridiculous, Garr.
Remember that we paid like £4-5 Million for Agger...
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I know, we were fucking fleeced
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Point well taken.
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44681.msg1351772#msg1351772 date=1308491570]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44681.msg1351762#msg1351762 date=1308486730]
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=44681.msg1351755#msg1351755 date=1308486083]
£8 million maximum in my view, taking into account he's now playing for a Championship Club.
£15 million price tag is quite frankly ridiculous.
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This whole window has been ridiculous, Garr.
Remember that we paid like £4-5 Million for Agger...
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I know, we were fucking fleeced
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Point well taken.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44681.msg1354791#msg1354791 date=1308962030]
Apparently we've backed down and another club have matched his supposed transfer fee.
Source? Twitter Paul86
Not that arsed to be honest, we should be after Cahill.
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Probably in the minority here, but i'm not all that fussed about Gary Cahill. Good defender yes, but an overrated one as far as i'm concerned.
He's not the most commanding of central defenders. I'd actually prefer Dann, not that i think he's top class either.
Apparently we've backed down and another club have matched his supposed transfer fee.
Source? Twitter Paul86
Not that arsed to be honest, we should be after Cahill.
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Probably in the minority here, but i'm not all that fussed about Gary Cahill. Good defender yes, but an overrated one as far as i'm concerned.
He's not the most commanding of central defenders. I'd actually prefer Dann, not that i think he's top class either.
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=44681.msg1354792#msg1354792 date=1308962512]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44681.msg1354791#msg1354791 date=1308962030]
Apparently we've backed down and another club have matched his supposed transfer fee.
Source? Twitter Paul86
Not that arsed to be honest, we should be after Cahill.
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Probably in the minority here, but i'm not all that fussed about Gary Cahill. Good defender yes, but an overrated one as far as i'm concerned.
He's not the most commanding of central defenders. I'd actually prefer Dann, not that i think he's top class either.
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To be fair, Dann isn't that bad. Seen some footage of him lately and he seems to be a towering no nonsense defender.
However in a direct comparison to Cahill, the Bolton defender wins hands down.
Of course there's the money factor and the fact that one is a Liverpool supporting Scouser.
Dann would be cheaper and he'd probably and won't be on high wages as his counter part but if we want quality we'll have to pay up.
Cahill is definitely not overrated, if anything I'd say he's underrated. Imagine how he'd perform in a better team...
EDIT:
Spurs are looking to flog off Bassong or Kaboul to Bolton in order to get Cahill.
Man City and Arsenal are also heavily linked.
We seem to be looking in another direction I'm afraid.
Fucking depressing. We're nearing the end of June and we still need a LB, a CB, a winger, a striker and possibly another midfielder.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44681.msg1354791#msg1354791 date=1308962030]
Apparently we've backed down and another club have matched his supposed transfer fee.
Source? Twitter Paul86
Not that arsed to be honest, we should be after Cahill.
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Probably in the minority here, but i'm not all that fussed about Gary Cahill. Good defender yes, but an overrated one as far as i'm concerned.
He's not the most commanding of central defenders. I'd actually prefer Dann, not that i think he's top class either.
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To be fair, Dann isn't that bad. Seen some footage of him lately and he seems to be a towering no nonsense defender.
However in a direct comparison to Cahill, the Bolton defender wins hands down.
Of course there's the money factor and the fact that one is a Liverpool supporting Scouser.
Dann would be cheaper and he'd probably and won't be on high wages as his counter part but if we want quality we'll have to pay up.
Cahill is definitely not overrated, if anything I'd say he's underrated. Imagine how he'd perform in a better team...
EDIT:
Spurs are looking to flog off Bassong or Kaboul to Bolton in order to get Cahill.
Man City and Arsenal are also heavily linked.
We seem to be looking in another direction I'm afraid.
Fucking depressing. We're nearing the end of June and we still need a LB, a CB, a winger, a striker and possibly another midfielder.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44681.msg1354794#msg1354794 date=1308964819]
Fucking depressing. We're nearing the end of June and we still need a LB, a CB, a winger, a striker and possibly another midfielder.
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The end of June?
Holy fuck, that IS depressing! What the fuck are we gonna do, the transfer windows is gonna shut soo...
Oh no, wait, it's only the end of FUCKING JUNE.
Fucking depressing. We're nearing the end of June and we still need a LB, a CB, a winger, a striker and possibly another midfielder.
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The end of June?
Holy fuck, that IS depressing! What the fuck are we gonna do, the transfer windows is gonna shut soo...
Oh no, wait, it's only the end of FUCKING JUNE.
Heh, end of June. Why have so many people turned hysterical this window?
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44681.msg1354809#msg1354809 date=1308984580]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44681.msg1354794#msg1354794 date=1308964819]
Fucking depressing. We're nearing the end of June and we still need a LB, a CB, a winger, a striker and possibly another midfielder.
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The end of June?
Holy fuck, that IS depressing! What the fuck are we gonna do, the transfer windows is gonna shut soo...
Oh no, wait, it's only the end of FUCKING JUNE.
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Real Madrid got two very talented players during the first week of the transfer window, Sahin and Altintop. We've been haggling with Villa and Blackpool about average players for two weeks.
We lost Young and Jones to Man U early on but it seemed as if we didn't have any back ups.
Why am I being hysterical? Well pre-season starts in about a week and we still haven't got anyone that would be considered a certain starter. We haven't sold anyone either.
Maybe it's a case of me wanting the squad to be settled by July while many of you are happy with potential transfers starting their pre-season in other teams.
Logically the earlier they join the better they get to know their team-mates on and off the pitch.
I want to see our new arrivals play in preseason friendlies in order to gel with the rest of the team.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44681.msg1354794#msg1354794 date=1308964819]
Fucking depressing. We're nearing the end of June and we still need a LB, a CB, a winger, a striker and possibly another midfielder.
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The end of June?
Holy fuck, that IS depressing! What the fuck are we gonna do, the transfer windows is gonna shut soo...
Oh no, wait, it's only the end of FUCKING JUNE.
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Real Madrid got two very talented players during the first week of the transfer window, Sahin and Altintop. We've been haggling with Villa and Blackpool about average players for two weeks.
We lost Young and Jones to Man U early on but it seemed as if we didn't have any back ups.
Why am I being hysterical? Well pre-season starts in about a week and we still haven't got anyone that would be considered a certain starter. We haven't sold anyone either.
Maybe it's a case of me wanting the squad to be settled by July while many of you are happy with potential transfers starting their pre-season in other teams.
Logically the earlier they join the better they get to know their team-mates on and off the pitch.
I want to see our new arrivals play in preseason friendlies in order to gel with the rest of the team.
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=44681.msg1354825#msg1354825 date=1308988779]
I'm not so concerned with the time issue, I am however concerned with the names of targets we've been linked with
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Well said mate!!
I'm not so concerned with the time issue, I am however concerned with the names of targets we've been linked with
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Well said mate!!
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=44681.msg1354825#msg1354825 date=1308988779]
I'm not so concerned with the time issue, I am however concerned with the names of targets we've been linked with
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I share your concern and of course the names are more important. But I don't think timing is something to be neglected. Considering that we play Arsenal at the emirates on the 20th of August, I'd like us to have our best team on the pitch.
I'm not so concerned with the time issue, I am however concerned with the names of targets we've been linked with
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I share your concern and of course the names are more important. But I don't think timing is something to be neglected. Considering that we play Arsenal at the emirates on the 20th of August, I'd like us to have our best team on the pitch.
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[quote author=Avvy link=topic=44681.msg1354825#msg1354825 date=1308988779]
I'm not so concerned with the time issue, I am however concerned with the names of targets we've been linked with
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I share your concern and of course the names are more important. But I don't think timing is something to be neglected. Considering that we play Arsenal at the emirates on the 20th of August, I'd like us to have our best team on the pitch.
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I actually think we're moving too quickly, which is why we're being so linked with so many average players.
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=44681.msg1354825#msg1354825 date=1308988779]
I'm not so concerned with the time issue, I am however concerned with the names of targets we've been linked with
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I share your concern and of course the names are more important. But I don't think timing is something to be neglected. Considering that we play Arsenal at the emirates on the 20th of August, I'd like us to have our best team on the pitch.
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I actually think we're moving too quickly, which is why we're being so linked with so many average players.
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