Poll Sanchez vs Lallana

[Glen C]

If your budget is £20-£25m to sign a marquee player then any player is comparable? I'd take @red_maradona point that a bigger poll is required. When @red_maradona creates his poll I request the Mods close this thread. Cheers

I don't see how its comparable at all, and its not about a marquee player but getting a player we need. If rodgers believes we need an attacking midfielder rather than a winger then his priority is going to be lallana over sanchez. If it was the other way round then it would be sanchez over lallana. Hence why i said it was a pointless poll. Go for 2 players in the same position then it would be relevant hence the example of shaqiri vs sanchez.

 

[Gerry_A_Trick]

I suppose you could read it to say, do you think we need a player like Sanchez, or a player like Lallana? Or not just like them, actually them. I don't see why it's not a valid question.

 

[mark1975]

I suppose you could read it to say, do you think we need a player like Sanchez, or a player like Lallana? Or not just like them, actually them. I don't see why it's not a valid question.

Why not just say that then? Do you think we should overpay for Lallana, or go all out for player X? The point of the thread wasn't really that at all, it was a skewed way of Modo and co making their point, which they've already reiterated many times elsewhere.

It IS pointless.

 

[Gerry_A_Trick]

Why not just say that then? Do you think we should overpay for Lallana, or go all out for player X? The point of the thread wasn't really that at all, it was a skewed way of Modo and co making their point, which they've already reiterated many times elsewhere.

It IS pointless.

I didn't see where it started from, the question in the OP is quite simple. but I'll take your word for it.

 

[Ryan]

Since when has Sanchez been a world class player?

 

[mark1975]

Since when has Sanchez been a world class player?

Since he was born with an exotic name and he played in Spain.

 

[superchimp]

It's laughable the amount of people the see sanchez as a world class player.

He's a good player no doubt, and I can see why Brendan would be after him i.e work rate, consistency etc but people need to stop getting too excited..

 

[hmmmmm1]

Sanchez is closer to being world class than Lallana and the (reported?) fee's are similar.

We are now paying Luis close too £200 grand a week so if they right player comes along I am sure the club would push the boat out on wages.

 

[Modo]

It's laughable the amount of people the see sanchez as a world class player.

He's a good player no doubt, and I can see why Brendan would be after him i.e work rate, consistency etc but people need to stop getting too excited..

How many people thought Touré was world class when he left Barca for City?

 

[Modo]

Jesus, people actually want Lallana more than Sanchez.

 

[keniget]

Jesus, people actually want Lallana more than Sanchez.

That's not what the poll is saying.

 

[Modo]

That's not what the poll is saying.

Some people.

 

[Roopy]

2 different players.

Sanchez is all about speed and power.

Lallana is more about guile and finesse.

Which type of player do we need most?

 

[Glen C]

2 different players.

Sanchez is all about speed and power.

Lallana is more about guile and finesse.

Which type of player do we need most?

More importantly 2 different positions.

 

[Modo]

2 different players.

Sanchez is all about speed and power.

Lallana is more about guile and finesse.

Which type of player do we need most?

Is this question really necessary? It's Sanchez FFS...

 

[mark1975]

Sanchez is closer to being world class than Lallana and the (reported?) fee's are similar.

We are now paying Luis close too £200 grand a week so if they right player comes along I am sure the club would push the boat out on wages.

That's a pretty naive way of looking at it. We paid it to Luis because we desperately wanted to keep hold of him, it shouldn't dictate what we want to pay future players. As said, he would command alot more than Lallana.

Anyway, Modo said earlier to gloss over the point, that he wanted "both". Now he's sneering at people who want Lallana, same old shite then!

 

[Frogfish]

Modo asked for a poll and I created it

I think Modo knows how to create a thread with a poll in it FFS ! Why not have a Johnson vs Lallana poll ? That will really have Modo squirming.

Modo has been a very decent poster .. until this last month when he's turned into an absolute cunt with an agenda over this Lallana episode. Not sure if it's the time of the month or maybe just the of Liverpool matches that has him scratching his balls and spitting like a tomcat.

 

[hmmmmm1]

That's a pretty naive way of looking at it. We paid it to Luis because we desperately wanted to keep hold of him, it shouldn't dictate what we want to pay future players. As said, he would command alot more than Lallana.

Anyway, Modo said earlier to gloss over the point, that he wanted "both". Now he's sneering at people who want Lallana, same old shite then!

Sometimes it is worth pushing the boat out for the right player. Just because we been stung in the past paying silly wages to the likes of Aqua, j.cole et al it shouldn't stop us paying top wages on the right players

Like stevie getting a 2 year deal when being 30+ plus, exceptions do get made

 

[RolandG]

(Dirty) Sanchez all day!

 

[mark1975]

I think Modo knows how to create a thread with a poll in it FFS ! Why not have a Johnson vs Lallana poll ? That will really have Modo squirming.

Modo has been a very decent poster .. until this last month when he's turned into an absolute cunt with an agenda over this Lallana episode. Not sure if it's the time of the month or maybe just the of Liverpool matches that has him scratching his balls and spitting like a tomcat.

Modo has always been a decent poster, but he's always had this mental streak in him, where he goes off on one over a subject and posts a thread, to inadvertently make a point.

Like this thread, where he tried to make out he asked for the poll because he "thought it would be close", insisted that he wouldn't be against signing both, then eventually decided to ridicule people who chose Lallana. He's not very good at hiding behind smoke and mirrors to make a point.

He doesn't rate Lallana as he thinks he's Downing Mark II (what, with him being English), so the obvious thing to do is pick out the latest fancy-Dan name on the market from a big European club, to make a point. Completely ignoring such irrelevant factors like wages, position, price, availability, the player's preferences, competition for his signature, whether we've already sounded him out and been shunted.

I wish he'd stop being a shithouse and just post the "point" from the off, instead of squirming around the issue with bullshit before eventually resorting to veined digs and sniveling responses.

 

[Fabio]

Hmm. I've been having a bit of an internal dialogue deciding whether to pick up on this point and decided to go with it - how does that work?

He can play in multiple positions but still with the same skill set so it's not like we get two types of players in one, right? It's a bit like David Silva who can play out wide as well as in the middle but no matter where he plays he's still that same floaty attacking midfielder.

It's a good point you make, and in build and playing style it is just one man. However I believe that he would be a vital cog for us.

Sure we need brilliant players, but we also need a lot of consistent 7/10 players, and I feel like he could perform that in several positions over the season.

 

[mark1975]

Sometimes it is worth pushing the boat out for the right player. Just because we been stung in the past paying silly wages to the likes of Aqua, j.cole et al it shouldn't stop us paying top wages on the right players

Like stevie getting a 2 year deal when being 30+ plus, exceptions do get made

Of course they do, but to not think there is a potential knock on effect, can prove disastrous in the long run. You've got a Sanchez coming in on big wages, then you've got players like Coutinho and Sterling (and Sturridge) in a similar bracket as far as their worth to us goes. They all start looking to be paid on a par, or closer to, what do yer do?

Suarez earned his contract with us, he's exceptional and has proven it, we're not in a position to do the same with Sanchez in the way that Chelsea or City would. Of course we have to pay premium sometimes, but no one is really factoring that the transfer fee may be similar, but the wages would most likely be significantly different. It's Football Manager-esque to neglect that as a minor factor.

 

[Mors]

Since when has Sanchez been a world class player?

 

[Buddha]

How many people thought Touré was world class when he left Barca for City?

Me!

 

[red_maradona]

Markovic isn't a CM, He's a Winger.

I thought he was more versatile, and could play across the offensive line of midfield.

 

[rurikbird]

I thought he was more versatile, and could play across the offensive line of midfield.

When young players are branded as "versatile" it usually means they don't have a settled position yet. When you read "this 20–year–old can play as a playmaker, on the left wing or as a striker" what it really means is "his coaches still didn't quite figure out how to best use this guy's skill set to benefit the team. The boy definitely has talent, but he makes poor decisions too often for a playmaker, doesn't track back enough for a winger and doesn't score enough goals for a striker."

Mature players who can truly excel in different positions are a pretty rare breed.

 

[Ryan]

There is that Rurik yes. But these days Managers and teams need players that can play in 3 or 4 positions, especially attacking players. Look how many different roles Raheem and Coutinho played for us last year. Half the time Managers actively don't want players who are settled in one position as it limits options.

 

[rurikbird]

You're right. That's one reason Brendan is going to replace Lucas (most likely) with Emre Can – because while Lucas is a very good back-up DM, he cannot do anything else.

 

[mark1975]

There is that Rurik yes. But these days Managers and teams need players that can play in 3 or 4 positions, especially attacking players. Look how many different roles Raheem and Coutinho played for us last year. Half the time Managers actively don't want players who are settled in one position as it limits options.

And as is the case with Sterling, you could argue that Rodgers has shoed him into the central role, to make him more versatile and train it into him. Coutinho on the other hand got eased into the side on the left, to get him used to the team and league from a less defensively demanding role, he too can play both positions well and is now adept at tracking back etc.

Rurik is right though, in the large part, it certainly seems the case more with defensive players anyway, but the way most attacks are set up these days, rather than your standard "flat" two attackers, it breeds versatility with attacking players. Look at Suarez, no one could argue he's a brilliant striker, but he can play wide of a front three if required, or in the position behind the front line. Even Rooney, who can play wide or deep, aswell as in the main striker role.