Then fuck him. Joining the best team in the world means you are going to come into a very good squad and you need to be up for the fight.
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Then fuck him. Joining the best team in the world means you are going to come into a very good squad and you need to be up for the fight.
It’s a hypothetical buddy.
Yawn, that was a title. It was asking who people prefer not that we should only have one.
You already know that.
Poor effort
Are we not fairly well off now, financially? I know the wage bill's gone up a lot (a lot of which would've happened anyway with the on going wage inflation from tv money), but we've been to 2 CL finals in a row, winning one, a mega new kit deal, the "brand" generally going from strength to strength, and have been one of the lowest net spenders in the league since Klopp came in.
We should be able to operate with a bit of latitude, really.
I mean, I think we need to have an eye on renewing the team, but I don't see why we should be reliant on drastic measures like selling Salah at his peak. Buy Sancho this summer to give us more depth and groom him to replace Salah or Mane in 2 or 3 years.
We should be able to operate with a bit of latitude, really.
I mean, I think we need to have an eye on renewing the team, but I don't see why we should be reliant on drastic measures like selling Salah at his peak. Buy Sancho this summer to give us more depth and groom him to replace Salah or Mane in 2 or 3 years.
Pet hate of mine when they get that saying wrong
Too late they've taken over,
Really ? History says that wasn't the case at all though it's an urban legend that perpetuates.
I don't remember Ferguson selling on his best players unless he was absolutely forced to by circumstances; Ronaldo, Beckham and Keane after a falling out spring to mind, though even he was getting on. His mainstays (Giggs, the Nevilles, Ferdinand, Cantona - retired, Rooney, Robson, Bruce, Schmeichel were there until pensionable and others (Vidic, Solskjaer and the like) were sold when way past their best. It's a myth that Ferguson rotated his best players from a plan and not necessity.
Rooney was 27 when Ferguson retired, still in his prime. Ince was 27 when he was moved on, Stam was 29, Van Nitlerooy 30.
He did refresh his squad reaonably well for most of his career, his sucess over 2 decades is evidence of that. However it all got away from him in the end. By the time he left in 2013 hed allowed the squad to become bloated and well past their prime.
One of his smartest traits was to spend big to sign key players quite early in their careers.
Regardless he didn't move Rooney on at his prime. RvN was, at 30, past his prime. Neither Ince nor Stam were top players at United (just good) and were moved on because they were in decline.
Yep he refreshed well. But he broke the British transfer record a number of times too (not devaluing that amazing crop of home-grown). The point I was making though is he didn't sell on his best players in their prime unless it was beyond his control .. similar to us with Coutinho, Torres and Suarez.
I voted no (cos I'm not insane), but I would say that Salah may be one of those situations where it does grow out of our control.
Similarly to Ronaldo, Salah has a huge global image & has become an icon, esp for the Muslim world, & that can create both positive & some negatives for a club with our ethos on meritocracy (that whole no player is bigger than the team thing is hard to say if you have thousands chanting just for one player when they go on tour).
Include the fact that Real are currently bigger than us on a global scale in terms of fans, reach, appeal etc, &Isomeone who sees himself as a role model or icon may see the heights beckham & Ronaldo got to after that move as being an aspiration. I suspect not only will Real be prepared to break records for him, but the club may see the financial sense in cashing in. Like it or not, FSG see players as assets, they've never hidden that, & if you look at it that way then a ridiculously big offer (like 300m big) could more than make sense for them, esp if they do manage to turn his head (as we know Real can & have successfully done to many many happy players before, (Beckham, Ronaldo, Bale just being the first to spring to mind).
I may be over thinking it, I may be over stating his 'icon' status, or how he perceives it, but at the moment I do see an almost inevitable trend, as his star seems to somehow rise separately & higher than the club's own.
Similarly to Ronaldo, Salah has a huge global image & has become an icon, esp for the Muslim world, & that can create both positive & some negatives for a club with our ethos on meritocracy (that whole no player is bigger than the team thing is hard to say if you have thousands chanting just for one player when they go on tour).
Include the fact that Real are currently bigger than us on a global scale in terms of fans, reach, appeal etc, &Isomeone who sees himself as a role model or icon may see the heights beckham & Ronaldo got to after that move as being an aspiration. I suspect not only will Real be prepared to break records for him, but the club may see the financial sense in cashing in. Like it or not, FSG see players as assets, they've never hidden that, & if you look at it that way then a ridiculously big offer (like 300m big) could more than make sense for them, esp if they do manage to turn his head (as we know Real can & have successfully done to many many happy players before, (Beckham, Ronaldo, Bale just being the first to spring to mind).
I may be over thinking it, I may be over stating his 'icon' status, or how he perceives it, but at the moment I do see an almost inevitable trend, as his star seems to somehow rise separately & higher than the club's own.
Nb, unfortunately mods can't see who voted which way. I'd out the nutters if we could.
Amazingly 8.2% of people who voted are insane. That's 4 people.
Then you must be young or have a selective memory, Ince, Sharp, Hughes, Kanchelskis from his first big team.
He repeatedly did it.
I don't think they can, can they?
I was of the understanding that, like Barca, they need to sell to buy.
But spending restrictions aside, it seems like Real want Mbappe (and vice versa).
Fuck me you consider them his star players. Sharp? Kanchelskis ? What are you smoking. Hughes I can give you. As Ferguson himself said he only had 4 world class players. And those I've already stated above are all many degrees above those you listed. Hahaha !
Buy Werner & Havarez and get rid of Big Div, Lallana and Power Cube.
The above with the Wilson, Grujic and Calamity money will leave us only spending a little, when you also factor in wages saved.
Swap Dejan for the Spanish bloke everyone’s prattling on about and use the young pups as cover at wing back if needed.
This would give us the best squad in the league, built on less than Everton’s subs bench.
Significant upgrades and playing time for players coming in.
Easy when you think about it.
The above with the Wilson, Grujic and Calamity money will leave us only spending a little, when you also factor in wages saved.
Swap Dejan for the Spanish bloke everyone’s prattling on about and use the young pups as cover at wing back if needed.
This would give us the best squad in the league, built on less than Everton’s subs bench.
Significant upgrades and playing time for players coming in.
Easy when you think about it.
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Kanchelskis was their top goal scorer that year.
Sharp was a rising start.
Like I said you obviously didn’t follow football that closely back then.
And Ferguson is talking rubbish he didn’t even mention Keane who was better than all of them for Utd
Talking out of your arse. Like either of those would ever be considered in the Top 30 of any list of United stars of Ferguson's time. As for not following football I'm far older than you and at that time I lived on the Wirral and worked in Seaforth you dumb twat.
Not sure about that but he was around 30 and had more than his share of injuries I think. It may have been a mistake to sell him but you can understand the reasoning. He also bought Laurent Blanc to replace him - at the time most would have considered that an upgrade regardless of how it worked out.
At the time baconface said it was because stam had just released an autobiography with damaging stuff in it, and he was gone immediately. Later he said it was because he'd been injured and didn't know if he'd get his form back, but should have waited because he did, and it was a mistake. Either way, it was a short term and wrong decision to sell a defender who in his three seasons won three leagues and the CL.
That’s a stupid point.
Both were key parts of that successful team and were replaced when at their peak which is the point you are trying to discredit which is rubbish.
I thought he sold Stam as soon as his book came out questioning Ferguson.
Nope I said Ferguson didn't sell his star players. Behave and stop deflecting now.
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