Sal-ittihad

[Donavan Ried]

I see it a couple of ways... If Salah picks up a bad injury that cuts short his career Imagine how he would feel... He would be cursing himself for not leaving and we would be cursing for not taking the £200m

Fenway will not allow us to pass up that sum

If we can make a deal for Salah to leave and be loaned back to us until the January window it's a win,win as far as I see it

 

[Modo]

I'd be all for 200m. We're 100% going to lose him at the end of next season when his contract's up. Might as well get that money now, suffer his loss, but be equipped to revamp the whole team over the next two windows.

Personally, I'm all over the place on this one. One day I want to sell, another day I'm thinking keep.
£200 mill for a 31 year old player...I mean it's like winning the Jackpot.
The fan in me though, the kid that had a McManaman poster in his room, he wants us to compete every season.
But £200 million...I just can't say no to that.
Obviously we have to get a replacement, but waiting until Jan, will that cost us a top 4 spot?

 

[Beamrider]

I think it all becomes power games now. If they wanted Salah, they needed to put £200m on the table a month ago. We'd have probably sold and replaced him. They didn't do that. Call me naive, but I don't think they suddenly realised in the last fortnight that there was a guy called Mo Salah at Liverpool who is quite good at footy, an icon for the Arab world and might be worth a look.
So if they put £200m on the table this week then either they're trying to say "Look at how mighty our league is, poor Liverpool had to sell when they didn't want to" or "Look at how pathetic Liverpool are, they won't even sell for a world record fee, it's not fair that the Arab world's biggest superstar cannot fulfil his true calling, the transfer system needs ti change so we can have our way because we are so mighty".
Either way, fuck them.

 

[Bradley]

I'd take the money now. He isn't getting any younger, he won't get any better. Again we will be needing to take our medicine sooner or later to replace him. May as well have the guts of £200m to help with that. It's also handy that we don't have the pressure of champions league, so could get by with Jota, Gakpo, Diaz, Nunez and a bit of Doak until January and then look to get someone to specialise on the right if none of those lads have made it their own.

 

[Donavan Ried]

I'd take the money now. He isn't getting any younger, he won't get any better. Again we will be needing to take our medicine sooner or later to replace him. May as well have the guts of £200m to help with that. It's also handy that we don't have the pressure of champions league, so could get by with Jota, Gakpo, Diaz, Nunez and a bit of Doak until January and then look to get someone to specialise on the right if none of those lads have made it their own.

It is talked about like the 30 premier ship goals will just disappear witthout Mo...
Others will step in in score a few of them, and you never know; perphase the team will perform better without him much like Portugal in the Euro's final when Ronaldo was taken off the whole team played better

 

[Gerry_A_Trick]

It is talked about like the 30 premier ship goals will just disappear witthout Mo...
Others will step in in score a few of them, and you never know; perphase the team will perform better without him much like Portugal in the Euro's final when Ronaldo was taken off the whole team played better

Good idea. But, why stop with just him, why not sell our best 5 players and we'll play better again?

 

[Markeh]

It’s about 20 games until January.

What’s Mo likely to provide in that time? 10 goals, 12 assists maybe? (absolutely pulling those numbers out of my arse)

Do we reckon a combination of Szob, Harvey, Doak and maybe someone like Diaz can come close? Yea maybe and perhaps other parts of the team pick up more goals too.

It’s just the detriment to the other parts of the team it would cause that’ll be my concern, Diaz or Szob weakening the midfield or the left to fill Mo’s slot. Klopp and the coaches having yet another change to address etc.

 

[Bradley]

It is talked about like the 30 premier ship goals will just disappear witthout Mo...
Others will step in in score a few of them, and you never know; perphase the team will perform better without him much like Portugal in the Euro's final when Ronaldo was taken off the whole team played better

Ah fuck Donavan agrees with me....... I might to have a think about this a bit more.

 

[StevieM]

I see it a couple of ways... If Salah picks up a bad injury that cuts short his career Imagine how he would feel... He would be cursing himself for not leaving and we would be cursing for not taking the £200m

Fenway will not allow us to pass up that sum

If we can make a deal for Salah to leave and be loaned back to us until the January window it's a win,win as far as I see it

I mean it’s a great idea… apart from the bit about us not being able sign him on loan now the transfer window is closed (unless it’s an emergency loan - which it wouldn’t be).

That’s not going to stop them chucking money at us to do a deal now - but there is only 2 choices - we tell the Saudi’s to get fucked or we run the team for at least half a season without a replacement and accept the consequences.

 

[Dreambeliever]

I'd take the money now. He isn't getting any younger, he won't get any better. Again we will be needing to take our medicine sooner or later to replace him. May as well have the guts of £200m to help with that. It's also handy that we don't have the pressure of champions league, so could get by with Jota, Gakpo, Diaz, Nunez and a bit of Doak until January and then look to get someone to specialise on the right if none of those lads have made it their own.

We arguably don’t have to replace him for 4 years.

 

[StevieM]

Let’s sell Alisson as well.. he’s getting on a bit and we should cash in while we can - we may concede a few more goals, but maybe other players will step up and we’ll defend better.

Think of the money we’ll have to buy another goalkeeper in January.

 

[StevieM]

Here’s a thought - why don’t we go to Arsenal and tell them to name their price for Saka - £200m… whatever it takes.

Then tell the Saudi’s that whatever Saka costs + let’s say 10% cunt tax is what Salah is going to cost them.

Otherwise they can fuck off until his contract is up in 2 seasons.

 

[bluebell]

We can survive without Salah until Jan. Dom can switch to RW and we will still have 4 attackers.
Also, having less attackers means we can move away from this 4-3-3 formation. £200m+ would revive our defence and allow us to get a Salah replacement.
Our owners will not normally allow a net spend of £50m per season, and considering Klopp like to hog on to players until their contract expires, this is the best opportunity to fix the weak links in the squad

 

[bluebell]

Here’s a thought - why don’t we go to Arsenal and tell them to name their price for Saka - £200m… whatever it takes.

Then tell the Saudi’s that whatever Saka costs + let’s say 10% cunt tax is what Salah is going to cost them.

Otherwise they can fuck off until his contract is up in 2 seasons.

There is talent out there that's not gonna cost £200m...
Olise, Gonclaves and The Georgian (He would go LW with one of our other FW going RW) would all cost between £70-£130m

 

[StevieM]

What I’m struggling to get my head around is the people who were most rabid about signing truckloads of players are now the ones calling for us to shift one of our best players, leaving us short handed and having to rejig the new midfield temporarily to compensate.

It’s like people actively want a reason to moan or just want to see money to fulfil some personal transfer wet dream.

I don’t get it at all.

There’s absolutely no way we should sell right now - none.

January, maybe, but again not ideal - next summer, again maybe.

Seriously - I’m fine with us keeping him and seeing leave on a free if he bangs in his usual 30 goals and 15 assists over the next 2 seasons.

 

[jexykrodic]

Treating a player like an impersonal commodity seems disrespectful to me.

I would hope that Mo and his agent are fully involved in the decision making process along with the LFC board.

Maybe it's as simple as Mo wishing to pursue his footballing ambitions that a bid of that size has been rejected out of hand.

A move to the Saudi league can only be about money, he cannot compete at the highest football levels from there.

I may be hopelessly naive but it's hard decision to make for all and with no obvious winners. We get a stack of cash and no replacement, he gets loads of money and his worldwide recognition fritters away in my opinion.

 

[Red Bird]

Good idea. But, why stop with just him, why not sell our best 5 players and we'll play better again?

Are they also 31 and each going for £150 million, too?

The managers of old— Shankly, Paisley and Fagan— were successful in part because they knew when to move a player on before most had realised his legs had gone. We currently seem unable to see or unwilling to believe this has happened with Salah. For £150 million, I’d let go and use the proceeds to rebuild. We did that, albeit by having our had forced when we sold Coutinho.

 

[jexykrodic]

Are they also 31 and each going for £150 million, too?

The managers of old— Shankly, Paisley and Fagan— were successful in part because they knew when to move a player on before most had realised his legs had gone. We currently seem unable to see or unwilling to believe this has happened with Salah. For £150 million, I’d let go.

Salah looks like he's fit and ready to play at a high level for years.

 

[StevieM]

There is talent out there that's not gonna cost £200m...
Olise, Gonclaves and The Georgian (He would go LW with one of our other FW going RW) would all cost between £70-£130m

Olise has scored like 6 goals in 70 odd appearances.

The Georgian, like you said, plays on the left - so moving him or one of our other players to the right doesn’t necessarily make sense - that’s another workaround for the sake of it.

Goncalves… maybe - don’t know enough about him to be honest.

None of them, though, can be signed now - so we shouldn’t sell and just wait till January - that would be galactically stupid

 

[StevieM]

Are they also 31 and each going for £150 million, too?

The managers of old— Shankly, Paisley and Fagan— were successful in part because they knew when to move a player on before most had realised his legs had gone. We currently seem unable to see or unwilling to believe this has happened with Salah. For £150 million, I’d let go and use the proceeds to rebuild. We did that, albeit by having our had forced when we sold Coutinho.

Well - his output hasn’t diminished, so therefore you’d have to conclude that his legs haven’t “gone”.

 

[bluebell]

What I’m struggling to get my head around is the people who were most rabid about signing truckloads of players are now the ones calling for us to sift one of our best players, leaving us short handed and having to rejig the new midfield temporarily to compensate.

It’s like people actively want a reason to moan or just want to see money to fulfil some personally transfer wet dream.

I don’t get it at all.

There’s absolutely no way we should sell right now - none.

January, maybe, but again not ideal - next summer, again maybe.

Seriously - I’m fine with us keeping him and seeing leave on a free if he bangs in his usual 30 goals and 15 assists over the next 2 seasons.

You were also okay going into this season with Ali Mac and Dom as the only signings and using the youngsters to patch-up the holes.
This season we've all accepted is a transition season and without Salah, we can still make top 4 and win the Europa Cup. Giving Klopp £200M plus will allow him to get the players he wants and finish the rebuild.

 

[StevieM]

Treating a player like an impersonal commodity seems disrespectful to me.

I would hope that Mo and his agent are fully involved in the decision making process along with the LFC board.

Maybe it's as simple as Mo wishing to pursue his footballing ambitions that a bid of that size has been rejected out of hand.

A move to the Saudi league can only be about money, he cannot compete at the highest football levels from there.

I may be hopelessly naive but it's hard decision to make for all and with no obvious winners. We get a stack of cash and no replacement, he gets loads of money and his worldwide recognition fritters away in my opinion.

Not only that - I’d say the people most rabid about cashing in on him like he is a commodity would be the exact same people rabidly complaining when his agent was suggesting he might sign for City if we could match his ambitions financially and professionally.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

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Let’s sell Alisson as well.. he’s getting on a bit and we should cash in while we can - we may concede a few more goals, but maybe other players will step up and we’ll defend better.

Think of the money we’ll have to buy another goalkeeper in January.

Alisson is untouchable not even for 500m.

Salah - meh. 200m ? Sell. No brainer.

 

[Modo]

@Holle
You know anything bout Yusuf Demir?

20 year old, left-footed RW, currently playing for Basel.

Does he have potential?

 

[StevieM]

You were also okay going into this season with Ali Mac and Dom as the only signings and using the youngsters to patch-up the holes.
This season we've all accepted is a transition season and without Salah, we can still make top 4 and win the Europa Cup. Giving Klopp £200M plus will allow him to get the players he wants and finish the rebuild.

Not quite - I was ok with Slobbers & Big Mac plus the youngsters if we kept Fabs & Hendo - but once we sold those two, we needed at least one more incoming.

I wasn’t particularly in favour of selling either Fabs or Hendo, but replacing those two with Endo & Gravy is probably decent business.m - considering it cost about the same and Gravy is at least young and highly developable.

Whatever we mean by “transition season”, I don’t know, but that doesn’t mean giving up - the front line with Salah means we should have enough firepower to get back to where we want to be.

Sell Salah now - you run the risk of rooting not only this season, but next one as well.

There are more important things needing fixed - get a Sporting Director - get a coherent transfer strategy in place, fix the back room team and do that before we start waving around £200m to try and convince someone to come join a team that just shot itself in the foot.

 

[StevieM]

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Alisson is untouchable not even for 500m.

Salah - meh. 200m ? Sell. No brainer.

They’re both delivering top end product.

Why is one untouchable and the other not?

Salah’s worth more commercially than Alisson as well.

 

[peterhague]

£200m for Salah is insane, let's be honest here.

If it were 2 months ago it'd have been a no-brainer.

My general opinion on this Saudi league is that it's no long term threat to the European hegemony, and this spending effectively represents a one-off bonanza for the selling clubs.

In this particular case, it's trickier because it would definitely weaken us and increase the risk of missing out on CL football again. There's even a small chance that it could deny us another title win. Is it worth taking the risk for £200m?

I'm not sure. It's obviously a fine balance. People saying otherwise are deluded, imo.

 

[Modo]

Exactly, this could be a one-off

 

[Mamma Mia]

What I’m struggling to get my head around is the people who were most rabid about signing truckloads of players are now the ones calling for us to sift one of our best players, leaving us short handed and having to rejig the new midfield temporarily to compensate.

It’s like people actively want a reason to moan or just want to see money to fulfil some personally transfer wet dream.

I don’t get it at all.

There’s absolutely no way we should sell right now - none.

January, maybe, but again not ideal - next summer, again maybe.

Seriously - I’m fine with us keeping him and seeing leave on a free if he bangs in his usual 30 goals and 15 assists over the next 2 seasons.

You're not really struggling to get your head around them at all. You had two of the three reasons in your post already. You're just missing the third, that some people are retards.

 

[StevieM]

Exactly, this could be a one-off

It won’t be - if the Saudi plan is develop that League to be one of the top leagues in the world - then this is just the start.

They’ll start targeting younger players and then they’ll start targeting top end Managers next.

They’ll be chucking money at Pep soon.