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SA v England & Wales

[move][size=24pt]ONIONS REDUCES SAFFERS TO TEARS!!!!!!!![/size][/move]

LTW is a big grump.

England Win a brilliant Draw.

Brilliant from the copper-headed duo Colly and Bell, with wonderful cameos from Swann and the man who must be giving Smith nightmares, Graham Onions. What a sweat though.
 
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=37951.msg1029142#msg1029142 date=1262885617]
I actually fell asleep it was that exciting.
[/quote]

Sorry Livvy, but test cricket clearly isn't for you if you didn't enjoy that. There was tension from first to last. That was a magnificent test match, with terrific performances in each side.
 
I've only followed this loosely but I was certain we'd cave today. Great performance.

But should we have batted first?
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37951.msg1029184#msg1029184 date=1262887607]
I've only followed this loosely but I was certain we'd cave today. Great performance.

But should we have batted first?
[/quote]

Yeah same here Squiggs, i thought it would be all over with loads of time to spare.

I'm not sure it made much difference in the end, the pitch seemed to play well today (not much spin for Harris anyway).
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37951.msg1029182#msg1029182 date=1262887563]
According to Bumble it's going to be a dodgy pitch for the last test match.

So, 1-1 or 2-0?
[/quote]

2-0. They'll be gutted, we've got our tails up, and this team is developing a real backbone.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37951.msg1029187#msg1029187 date=1262887740]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37951.msg1029184#msg1029184 date=1262887607]
I've only followed this loosely but I was certain we'd cave today. Great performance.

But should we have batted first?
[/quote]

Yeah same here Squiggs, i thought it would be all over with loads of time to spare.

I'm not sure it made much difference in the end, the pitch seemed to play well today (not much spin for Harris anyway).
[/quote]

Possibly so, but I've heard it said before now that a captain who wins the toss should carefully consider his options, and then bat first. Victories for the side batting last are nearly as rare as hen's teeth.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=37951.msg1029209#msg1029209 date=1262889808]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37951.msg1029182#msg1029182 date=1262887563]
According to Bumble it's going to be a dodgy pitch for the last test match.

So, 1-1 or 2-0?
[/quote]

2-0. They'll be gutted, we've got our tails up, and this team is developing a real backbone.
[/quote]

I'd go along with that i think.

This team certainly never just folds like past sides have tended to do. It's a trait that definitely bodes well for the future.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=37951.msg1029213#msg1029213 date=1262890063]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37951.msg1029187#msg1029187 date=1262887740]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37951.msg1029184#msg1029184 date=1262887607]
I've only followed this loosely but I was certain we'd cave today. Great performance.

But should we have batted first?
[/quote]

Yeah same here Squiggs, i thought it would be all over with loads of time to spare.

I'm not sure it made much difference in the end, the pitch seemed to play well today (not much spin for Harris anyway).
[/quote]

Possibly so, but I've heard it said before now that a captain who wins the toss should carefully consider his options, and then bat first. Victories for the side batting last are nearly as rare as hen's teeth.
[/quote]

Generally i'd agree with that mate, but i think the fact that the SA's don't have a spinner of any note slightly changes that for Strauss.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37951.msg1029227#msg1029227 date=1262892284]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=37951.msg1029213#msg1029213 date=1262890063]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37951.msg1029187#msg1029187 date=1262887740]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37951.msg1029184#msg1029184 date=1262887607]
I've only followed this loosely but I was certain we'd cave today. Great performance.

But should we have batted first?
[/quote]

Yeah same here Squiggs, i thought it would be all over with loads of time to spare.

I'm not sure it made much difference in the end, the pitch seemed to play well today (not much spin for Harris anyway).
[/quote]

Possibly so, but I've heard it said before now that a captain who wins the toss should carefully consider his options, and then bat first. Victories for the side batting last are nearly as rare as hen's teeth.
[/quote]

Generally i'd agree with that mate, but i think the fact that the SA's don't have a spinner of any note slightly changes that for Strauss.
[/quote]

And the fact that there was a tinge of green about the pitch in the first morning.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=37951.msg1029248#msg1029248 date=1262895607]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37951.msg1029227#msg1029227 date=1262892284]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=37951.msg1029213#msg1029213 date=1262890063]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37951.msg1029187#msg1029187 date=1262887740]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37951.msg1029184#msg1029184 date=1262887607]
I've only followed this loosely but I was certain we'd cave today. Great performance.

But should we have batted first?
[/quote]

Yeah same here Squiggs, i thought it would be all over with loads of time to spare.

I'm not sure it made much difference in the end, the pitch seemed to play well today (not much spin for Harris anyway).
[/quote]

Possibly so, but I've heard it said before now that a captain who wins the toss should carefully consider his options, and then bat first. Victories for the side batting last are nearly as rare as hen's teeth.
[/quote]

Generally i'd agree with that mate, but i think the fact that the SA's don't have a spinner of any note slightly changes that for Strauss.
[/quote]

And the fact that there was a tinge of green about the pitch in the first morning.
[/quote]

Yeah definitely Doc.
 
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=37951.msg1029408#msg1029408 date=1262935044]
How exciting can a draw be?
[/quote]

It can be very exciting in cricket! In a team's innings, the batters who come in at the end of the innings are bowlers, who aren't usually much good at batting, and the worst is always number 11. Onions is England's number 11 and he came in with around 2 'overs,' that is 12 balls, to go before the end of the match. If Onions had got out, South Africa would have squared the series at 1 match each. There was huge pressure on Onions and every defensive shot he played was cheered by the England fans. 🙂
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=37951.msg1029418#msg1029418 date=1262941314]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=37951.msg1029408#msg1029408 date=1262935044]
How exciting can a draw be?
[/quote]

It can be very exciting in cricket! In a team's innings, the batters who come in at the end of the innings are bowlers, who aren't usually much good at batting, and the worst is always number 11. Onions is England's number 11 and he came in with around 2 'overs,' that is 12 balls, to go before the end of the match. If Onions had got out, South Africa would have squared the series at 1 match each. There was huge pressure on Onions and every defensive shot he played was cheered by the England fans. 🙂
[/quote]

haha, only in cricket

*scratch head muttering strange game*
 
[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=37951.msg1029440#msg1029440 date=1262943857]
I'm sure if Y1 went to a match, he'd be converted.
[/quote]

Going to a cricket match is more about getting pissed than watching cricket. The cricket is just a backdrop for the drunkenness.
 
It depends on the individual doesn't it? Most of us go to cricket matches because we like cricket!

Getting a hangover around tea-time doesn't really make sense. 🙂
 
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=37951.msg1029427#msg1029427 date=1262942266]
[quote author=Portly link=topic=37951.msg1029418#msg1029418 date=1262941314]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=37951.msg1029408#msg1029408 date=1262935044]
How exciting can a draw be?
[/quote]

It can be very exciting in cricket! In a team's innings, the batters who come in at the end of the innings are bowlers, who aren't usually much good at batting, and the worst is always number 11. Onions is England's number 11 and he came in with around 2 'overs,' that is 12 balls, to go before the end of the match. If Onions had got out, South Africa would have squared the series at 1 match each. There was huge pressure on Onions and every defensive shot he played was cheered by the England fans. 🙂
[/quote]

haha, only in cricket

*scratch head muttering strange game*
[/quote]

Not at all. There are plenty of exciting draws, even goalless draws, in football. The way England held out at the end of this match was directly equivalent to the way LFC held out in Istanbul after we'd equalised and Milan were throwing everything plus the kitchen sink at us.
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=37951.msg1029479#msg1029479 date=1262949157]
It depends on the individual doesn't it? Most of us go to cricket matches because we like cricket!

Getting a hangover around tea-time doesn't really make sense. 🙂
[/quote]

Exactly... It's all about pacing yourself correctly, don't start on the ale until at least lunch, then increase the tempo after tea.
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=37951.msg1029479#msg1029479 date=1262949157]
It depends on the individual doesn't it? Most of us go to cricket matches because we like cricket!

Getting a hangover around tea-time doesn't really make sense. 🙂
[/quote]

You only get a hangover if you stop drinking!
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=37951.msg1029495#msg1029495 date=1262949909]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=37951.msg1029427#msg1029427 date=1262942266]
[quote author=Portly link=topic=37951.msg1029418#msg1029418 date=1262941314]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=37951.msg1029408#msg1029408 date=1262935044]
How exciting can a draw be?
[/quote]

It can be very exciting in cricket! In a team's innings, the batters who come in at the end of the innings are bowlers, who aren't usually much good at batting, and the worst is always number 11. Onions is England's number 11 and he came in with around 2 'overs,' that is 12 balls, to go before the end of the match. If Onions had got out, South Africa would have squared the series at 1 match each. There was huge pressure on Onions and every defensive shot he played was cheered by the England fans. 🙂
[/quote]

haha, only in cricket

*scratch head muttering strange game*
[/quote]

Not at all. There are plenty of exciting draws, even goalless draws, in football. The way England held out at the end of this match was directly equivalent to the way LFC held out in Istanbul after we'd equalised and Milan were throwing everything plus the kitchen sink at us.
[/quote]

Ah now that makes sense! Thanks JJ

Actually I have a very good English friend and his daughters were nuts over cricket. Both of them were trying to explain the finer points of cricket to me during my summer visit (when England was playing the Aussies I think) to London to no avail!

*shrugs shoulders*

Actually, I may watch some one dayers or highlights of test matches. I can't imagine myself at the ground for 5 days!
 
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=37951.msg1029467#msg1029467 date=1262947657]
[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=37951.msg1029440#msg1029440 date=1262943857]
I'm sure if Y1 went to a match, he'd be converted.
[/quote]

Going to a cricket match is more about getting pissed than watching cricket. The cricket is just a backdrop for the drunkenness.
[/quote]

Exactly!
 
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=37951.msg1031194#msg1031194 date=1263190965]

Actually I have a very good English friend and his daughters were nuts over cricket. Both of them were trying to explain the finer points of cricket to me during my summer visit (when England was playing the Aussies I think) to London to no avail!

Actually, I may watch some one dayers or highlights of test matches. I can't imagine myself at the ground for 5 days!
[/quote]

If you didn't get it while watching Eng V Aus then it's gonna be bloody hard to get test cricket.
Might be worth watching the twenty20's
 
[quote author=Asim link=topic=37951.msg1031851#msg1031851 date=1263304184]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=37951.msg1031194#msg1031194 date=1263190965]

Actually I have a very good English friend and his daughters were nuts over cricket. Both of them were trying to explain the finer points of cricket to me during my summer visit (when England was playing the Aussies I think) to London to no avail!

Actually, I may watch some one dayers or highlights of test matches. I can't imagine myself at the ground for 5 days!
[/quote]

If you didn't get it while watching Eng V Aus then it's gonna be bloody hard to get test cricket.
Might be worth watching the twenty20's
[/quote]

But to the purist, that is simply not cricket! 🙂
 
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=37951.msg1031924#msg1031924 date=1263312196]
But to the purist, that is simply not cricket! 🙂
[/quote]

Spot-on, Y1.

It is good fun but it is more like baseball to me! ;D
 
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=37951.msg1031924#msg1031924 date=1263312196]
[quote author=Asim link=topic=37951.msg1031851#msg1031851 date=1263304184]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=37951.msg1031194#msg1031194 date=1263190965]

Actually I have a very good English friend and his daughters were nuts over cricket. Both of them were trying to explain the finer points of cricket to me during my summer visit (when England was playing the Aussies I think) to London to no avail!

Actually, I may watch some one dayers or highlights of test matches. I can't imagine myself at the ground for 5 days!
[/quote]

If you didn't get it while watching Eng V Aus then it's gonna be bloody hard to get test cricket.
Might be worth watching the twenty20's
[/quote]

But to the purist, that is simply not cricket! 🙂
[/quote]

Agree with Portly, it's more like Baseball than cricket but it is bloody enjoyable to watch. Test cricket is a little more refined and has a touch of class about it. A lot of the test game is about having a day to chill and watch the game
 
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