Roy Hodgson
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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=40525.msg1115794#msg1115794 date=1276025077]
If this is true safe to say the whole middle eastern investment thing is total
BS
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Or conversely, if the whole Middle Eastern investment thing is true then this is total BS. Glass half full and all that.
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Oor, Al-Fayed is buying Liverpool ?
He's just sold Harrords for £1.5Billions.........hello ?
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=40525.msg1115794#msg1115794 date=1276025077]
If this is true safe to say the whole middle eastern investment thing is total
BS
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Or conversely, if the whole Middle Eastern investment thing is true then this is total BS. Glass half full and all that.
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Oor, Al-Fayed is buying Liverpool ?
He's just sold Harrords for £1.5Billions.........hello ?
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[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40525.msg1115816#msg1115816 date=1276026139]
What other managers are there though? Even if we're sold in the next few months;
Van Gaal: Been at Bayern for a year. Money no problem, Ribery staying, CL success. Nope.
Mourinho: Signed for Real
Hiddink: Signed for Turkey
Lippi: Apperantly not interested
If the best and most high profiled managers aren't availeble, then Roy is a good appointment. I don't think a potential new owner would mind Roy for 12-24 months. Bearing in mind he has success.
I don't think he's appointment would mean anything regarding a new owner.
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Well said.
What other managers are there though? Even if we're sold in the next few months;
Van Gaal: Been at Bayern for a year. Money no problem, Ribery staying, CL success. Nope.
Mourinho: Signed for Real
Hiddink: Signed for Turkey
Lippi: Apperantly not interested
If the best and most high profiled managers aren't availeble, then Roy is a good appointment. I don't think a potential new owner would mind Roy for 12-24 months. Bearing in mind he has success.
I don't think he's appointment would mean anything regarding a new owner.
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Well said.
For those (like me) who are a little hazy on Woy's career, thanks be to the joys of Wikipaedia....
Some real highs and lows in here!
Managerial career
Early career
Hodgson started his top flight managerial career in 1976 at the Swedish top division side Halmstads This was after his spell at English minows Carshalton Athletic. Hodgson spent five years at Halmstads BK, winning the league championship in 1976 and 1979. His success with Halmstad in 1976 is considered as one of the biggest surprises of all time in Swedish football.[4] The year before, Halmstad had struggled against relegation and before the 1976 campaign began, they were almost universally tipped for relegation. Hodgson himself says "my greatest achievement would have to be the water-into-wine job at Halmstads."[4] Early in his career, he was dubbed the nicest man in the world.[5]
In 1980, he moved to Bristol City in his native England, where he was assistant manager and later manager. Due to the club's financial problems he was largely unsuccessful. In 1983, Hodgson moved back to Sweden to take over Örebro. In 1985, he took over at Malmö FF, which he led to five consecutive league championships, two Swedish championships (at the time the Swedish championship was decided through play-offs) and two Swedish Cups. Due to his successful time at Malmö, Hodgson is still highly appreciated by the club's fans who have unofficially named a section of the new Swedbank Stadion "Roy's Hörna" (Roy's Corner). His greatest continental achievement at Malmö was knocking the then-Italian champions Inter Milan out of the Champions League, winning 1–0 at home and drawing 1–1 at the San Siro.
Malmö offered Hodgson a lifetime contract, but he declined, saying later that "moving to another place seemed exciting. The decision was also financial. Swedish taxes were so high that even if you were being paid reasonable money, after losing 65% in tax there wasn't a lot left."[4] Hodgson moved to Swiss side Neuchâtel Xamax in 1990. He led Xamax to European victories over Celtic and Real Madrid.
His early coaching career was closely linked to that of his friend Bob Houghton; they worked together at Maidstone, Stranraer and Bristol City, and they both worked in Swedish football at the same time. The pair are credited with transforming Swedish football, bringing in zonal marking for the first time.[6]
Switzerland
Hodgson took over as manager of the Swiss national team from Uli Stielike on 26 January 1992.[7] Stielike had been the first Swiss coach to have a winning record,[7] winning 13 of the 25 games he was in charge. As Hodgson was succeeding Stielike at the national level, Stielike took over the job Hodgson had just vacated at club level with Swiss Super League side Neuchâtel Xamax.
Hodgson took the Schweizer Nati to the 1994 World Cup, losing only one game during qualification, from a group that included Italy and Portugal. The Swiss took four points off Italy, managed by the successful former coach Arrigo Sacchi, who were to make it to the World Cup final and lose only on penalties. In the game in Italy, the Swiss were at one stage leading 2–0 before being pegged back to 2–2. This was Switzerland's first World Cup since 1966. At the 1994 World Cup, the Swiss finished runners-up in their group, qualifying for the Round of 16 where they lost to Spain.
The Swiss easily qualified for Euro 1996. Hodgson left immediately after they had qualified for Euro 1996, on 15 November 1995 to join Serie A side Inter Milan. He had in fact been doing both jobs from October of that year.[citation needed] Without Hodgson, the Swiss had a difficult time at Euro '96 with defeats coming at the hands of the Netherlands and Scotland, with the Swiss finishing bottom of their group.
At his peak as manager of Switzerland, they were the third best international side in the world, according to the FIFA World Rankings.[4]
Inter Milan
Before the European Championships, Hodgson joined Italian Serie A giants Inter Milan, where he worked from 1995 to 1997. He presided over a rebuilding phase. Inter had finished 13th and 6th in the seasons prior to his arrival. After a terrible start to the season, Hodgson was brought in and guided the club to a 7th place finish in the 1995–96 season, qualifying for the UEFA Cup. The 1996–97 season saw Inter finish 3rd and reach the 1997 UEFA Cup Final, losing on penalties over two legs. Hodgson says of his time at Inter, "We lacked stars, apart from Paul Ince. It wasn't the Inter we see today of household names. They weren't the best technically but physically they were like machines. The Premier League is like that now, but back then Italy was far ahead."[4] The side Hodgson built would go on to win the UEFA Cup in 1998 and finish runner-up in Serie A under his successor, Luigi Simoni.
Blackburn Rovers
In the 1997 close season, Hodgson was tempted by Jack Walker to replace Ray Harford at Blackburn Rovers.Rovers had finished 13th under Harford the previous season – only 2 seasons after winning the title—and had been in danger of relegation; Walker wanted Rovers to challenge consistently for European football. In the 1997–98 season—his first season in charge – Blackburn finished 6th, qualifying for the UEFA cup and appeared to be in the ascendancy. However, Hodgson's second season with Blackburn would prove to be disastrous, both for the club and for his personal reputation within English football. Hodgson spent £20m in the summer of 1998 to strengthen the Rovers side[8]. A succession of poor buys – notably the £7.5 million Kevin Davies—coupled with injuries and dressing room unrest led to a disastrous start to the season. He was sacked in December 1998 with Rovers at the bottom of the league table.[9] His final game was a home defeat to Southampton.[9][10]
Return to Inter, Grasshopper
In 1999, he had a brief second stint as caretaker at Inter Milan before returning to Switzerland to coach Grasshopper for a season. In 2000, Hodgson was one of three candidates to take over as England manager. However, his failure with Blackburn and subsequent damage to his reputation in England counted heavily against him[11] and the job went to Sven-Göran Eriksson.
[edit]Copenhagen, Udinese
Hodgson moved to Denmark and became manager of Copenhagen. Hodgson was an instant success, taking a team that had finished 7th and 8th in the two previous seasons, and winning the Superliga championship in the 2000–01 season. In 2001, he left Copenhagen to move to Serie A side Udinese. Despite a successful start, he was fired after just six months after allegedly stating that he regretted taking up the post.[12]
United Arab Emirates
Hodgson took over as manager of the United Arab Emirates in April 2002, managing the senior and Olympic sides. He was sacked in January 2004 after a disappointing fifth placed finish at the 2003 Gulf Cup.[13] Speaking of his time as manager of the United Arab Emirates, Hodgson said: "That was a period where I didn't know where my career was going. But all these experiences enrich you and it was good to know I could get my message to players who many say are uncoachable. It's hard work; they're basically lazy. But I had them drilled and pressuring opponents almost like an English team. Most coaches who go there are just fannying around, but it's not my nature."[4]
Viking
In May 2004, he moved to Norwegian club Viking. The club had been stuck in the relegation zone before Hodgson took over, but finished ninth under Hodgson in its first season in its new stadium, Viking Stadion, qualifying for the UEFA Cup. Following a spell at the top of the table, Viking finished fifth in the 2005 season. 2005 was also a good year for Hodgson and Viking in the UEFA Cup, with victories against Monaco and Austria Wien as the highlights. On 15 August 2005, he agreed to take over as coach of the Finnish national team for the Euro 2008 qualifying campaign.
Finland
Hodgson narrowly failed to reach Euro 2008 with Finland (Finland attained 24 points and coming fourth in their group). Hodgson's Finland were praised for well organized defending but criticized for inefficient attacking. Finland played five 0–0 draws in 14 qualification games. However, Finland still had a chance to qualify in their last match. Hodgson's contract expired at the end of November, and although the Finnish FA expressed their willingness to extend it, Hodgson decided to move on.
I've left off the Fulham bit as we all know about that.
Some real highs and lows in here!
Managerial career
Early career
Hodgson started his top flight managerial career in 1976 at the Swedish top division side Halmstads This was after his spell at English minows Carshalton Athletic. Hodgson spent five years at Halmstads BK, winning the league championship in 1976 and 1979. His success with Halmstad in 1976 is considered as one of the biggest surprises of all time in Swedish football.[4] The year before, Halmstad had struggled against relegation and before the 1976 campaign began, they were almost universally tipped for relegation. Hodgson himself says "my greatest achievement would have to be the water-into-wine job at Halmstads."[4] Early in his career, he was dubbed the nicest man in the world.[5]
In 1980, he moved to Bristol City in his native England, where he was assistant manager and later manager. Due to the club's financial problems he was largely unsuccessful. In 1983, Hodgson moved back to Sweden to take over Örebro. In 1985, he took over at Malmö FF, which he led to five consecutive league championships, two Swedish championships (at the time the Swedish championship was decided through play-offs) and two Swedish Cups. Due to his successful time at Malmö, Hodgson is still highly appreciated by the club's fans who have unofficially named a section of the new Swedbank Stadion "Roy's Hörna" (Roy's Corner). His greatest continental achievement at Malmö was knocking the then-Italian champions Inter Milan out of the Champions League, winning 1–0 at home and drawing 1–1 at the San Siro.
Malmö offered Hodgson a lifetime contract, but he declined, saying later that "moving to another place seemed exciting. The decision was also financial. Swedish taxes were so high that even if you were being paid reasonable money, after losing 65% in tax there wasn't a lot left."[4] Hodgson moved to Swiss side Neuchâtel Xamax in 1990. He led Xamax to European victories over Celtic and Real Madrid.
His early coaching career was closely linked to that of his friend Bob Houghton; they worked together at Maidstone, Stranraer and Bristol City, and they both worked in Swedish football at the same time. The pair are credited with transforming Swedish football, bringing in zonal marking for the first time.[6]
Switzerland
Hodgson took over as manager of the Swiss national team from Uli Stielike on 26 January 1992.[7] Stielike had been the first Swiss coach to have a winning record,[7] winning 13 of the 25 games he was in charge. As Hodgson was succeeding Stielike at the national level, Stielike took over the job Hodgson had just vacated at club level with Swiss Super League side Neuchâtel Xamax.
Hodgson took the Schweizer Nati to the 1994 World Cup, losing only one game during qualification, from a group that included Italy and Portugal. The Swiss took four points off Italy, managed by the successful former coach Arrigo Sacchi, who were to make it to the World Cup final and lose only on penalties. In the game in Italy, the Swiss were at one stage leading 2–0 before being pegged back to 2–2. This was Switzerland's first World Cup since 1966. At the 1994 World Cup, the Swiss finished runners-up in their group, qualifying for the Round of 16 where they lost to Spain.
The Swiss easily qualified for Euro 1996. Hodgson left immediately after they had qualified for Euro 1996, on 15 November 1995 to join Serie A side Inter Milan. He had in fact been doing both jobs from October of that year.[citation needed] Without Hodgson, the Swiss had a difficult time at Euro '96 with defeats coming at the hands of the Netherlands and Scotland, with the Swiss finishing bottom of their group.
At his peak as manager of Switzerland, they were the third best international side in the world, according to the FIFA World Rankings.[4]
Inter Milan
Before the European Championships, Hodgson joined Italian Serie A giants Inter Milan, where he worked from 1995 to 1997. He presided over a rebuilding phase. Inter had finished 13th and 6th in the seasons prior to his arrival. After a terrible start to the season, Hodgson was brought in and guided the club to a 7th place finish in the 1995–96 season, qualifying for the UEFA Cup. The 1996–97 season saw Inter finish 3rd and reach the 1997 UEFA Cup Final, losing on penalties over two legs. Hodgson says of his time at Inter, "We lacked stars, apart from Paul Ince. It wasn't the Inter we see today of household names. They weren't the best technically but physically they were like machines. The Premier League is like that now, but back then Italy was far ahead."[4] The side Hodgson built would go on to win the UEFA Cup in 1998 and finish runner-up in Serie A under his successor, Luigi Simoni.
Blackburn Rovers
In the 1997 close season, Hodgson was tempted by Jack Walker to replace Ray Harford at Blackburn Rovers.Rovers had finished 13th under Harford the previous season – only 2 seasons after winning the title—and had been in danger of relegation; Walker wanted Rovers to challenge consistently for European football. In the 1997–98 season—his first season in charge – Blackburn finished 6th, qualifying for the UEFA cup and appeared to be in the ascendancy. However, Hodgson's second season with Blackburn would prove to be disastrous, both for the club and for his personal reputation within English football. Hodgson spent £20m in the summer of 1998 to strengthen the Rovers side[8]. A succession of poor buys – notably the £7.5 million Kevin Davies—coupled with injuries and dressing room unrest led to a disastrous start to the season. He was sacked in December 1998 with Rovers at the bottom of the league table.[9] His final game was a home defeat to Southampton.[9][10]
Return to Inter, Grasshopper
In 1999, he had a brief second stint as caretaker at Inter Milan before returning to Switzerland to coach Grasshopper for a season. In 2000, Hodgson was one of three candidates to take over as England manager. However, his failure with Blackburn and subsequent damage to his reputation in England counted heavily against him[11] and the job went to Sven-Göran Eriksson.
[edit]Copenhagen, Udinese
Hodgson moved to Denmark and became manager of Copenhagen. Hodgson was an instant success, taking a team that had finished 7th and 8th in the two previous seasons, and winning the Superliga championship in the 2000–01 season. In 2001, he left Copenhagen to move to Serie A side Udinese. Despite a successful start, he was fired after just six months after allegedly stating that he regretted taking up the post.[12]
United Arab Emirates
Hodgson took over as manager of the United Arab Emirates in April 2002, managing the senior and Olympic sides. He was sacked in January 2004 after a disappointing fifth placed finish at the 2003 Gulf Cup.[13] Speaking of his time as manager of the United Arab Emirates, Hodgson said: "That was a period where I didn't know where my career was going. But all these experiences enrich you and it was good to know I could get my message to players who many say are uncoachable. It's hard work; they're basically lazy. But I had them drilled and pressuring opponents almost like an English team. Most coaches who go there are just fannying around, but it's not my nature."[4]
Viking
In May 2004, he moved to Norwegian club Viking. The club had been stuck in the relegation zone before Hodgson took over, but finished ninth under Hodgson in its first season in its new stadium, Viking Stadion, qualifying for the UEFA Cup. Following a spell at the top of the table, Viking finished fifth in the 2005 season. 2005 was also a good year for Hodgson and Viking in the UEFA Cup, with victories against Monaco and Austria Wien as the highlights. On 15 August 2005, he agreed to take over as coach of the Finnish national team for the Euro 2008 qualifying campaign.
Finland
Hodgson narrowly failed to reach Euro 2008 with Finland (Finland attained 24 points and coming fourth in their group). Hodgson's Finland were praised for well organized defending but criticized for inefficient attacking. Finland played five 0–0 draws in 14 qualification games. However, Finland still had a chance to qualify in their last match. Hodgson's contract expired at the end of November, and although the Finnish FA expressed their willingness to extend it, Hodgson decided to move on.
I've left off the Fulham bit as we all know about that.
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Squiggles
Guest
Taking a team in the relegation zone into Europe, and then to a European final.
It's a fine achievement.
It's a fine achievement.
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I like that Spion
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*doffs cap coyly*
I like that Spion
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*doffs cap coyly*
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40525.msg1115826#msg1115826 date=1276026566]
My only concern is his away record in the Premiership.
It's shocking to say the least.
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Could it be any worse than our away record this season just gone?
My only concern is his away record in the Premiership.
It's shocking to say the least.
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Could it be any worse than our away record this season just gone?
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Squiggles
Guest
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=40525.msg1115825#msg1115825 date=1276026523]
Spending £20m and taking Blackburn to the bottom of the table isnt.
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Well no, but we're used to Beitez's recent transfer record. He won't get worse than that.
We mainly need him to get the best out of this squad. In recent times he's shown he's capable of doing so, and then some.
Spending £20m and taking Blackburn to the bottom of the table isnt.
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Well no, but we're used to Beitez's recent transfer record. He won't get worse than that.
We mainly need him to get the best out of this squad. In recent times he's shown he's capable of doing so, and then some.
I've many concerns. First and foremost he'll be a 'yes' man to those two cunts who own the club. He's not the type to rock the boat so will he fight to keep our best players? Not so sure. His record is good in poor leagues. His record in good leagues is relatively poor. I think he's a mediocre signing. And we're heading towards mediocrity - if we're not there already.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=40525.msg1115830#msg1115830 date=1276026795]
I've many concerns. First and foremost he'll be a 'yes' man to those two cunts who own the club. He's not the type to rock the boat so will he fight to keep our best players? Not so sure. His record is good in poor leagues. His record in good leagues is relatively poor. I think he's a mediocre signing. And we're heading towards mediocrity - if we're not there already.
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Yet again I find myself nodding in agreement with you. On all points. If Hodgson joins its safe to say I'll not be a HCDNWer!!!
I've many concerns. First and foremost he'll be a 'yes' man to those two cunts who own the club. He's not the type to rock the boat so will he fight to keep our best players? Not so sure. His record is good in poor leagues. His record in good leagues is relatively poor. I think he's a mediocre signing. And we're heading towards mediocrity - if we're not there already.
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Yet again I find myself nodding in agreement with you. On all points. If Hodgson joins its safe to say I'll not be a HCDNWer!!!
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United Arab Emirates
Hodgson took over as manager of the United Arab Emirates in April 2002, managing the senior and Olympic sides. He was sacked in January 2004 after a disappointing fifth placed finish at the 2003 Gulf Cup.[13] Speaking of his time as manager of the United Arab Emirates, Hodgson said: "That was a period where I didn't know where my career was going. But all these experiences enrich you and it was good to know I could get my message to players who many say are uncoachable. It's hard work; they're basically lazy. But I had them drilled and pressuring opponents almost like an English team. Most coaches who go there are just fannying around, but it's not my nature."[4]
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Roy doesn't really hold back. Does he?
United Arab Emirates
Hodgson took over as manager of the United Arab Emirates in April 2002, managing the senior and Olympic sides. He was sacked in January 2004 after a disappointing fifth placed finish at the 2003 Gulf Cup.[13] Speaking of his time as manager of the United Arab Emirates, Hodgson said: "That was a period where I didn't know where my career was going. But all these experiences enrich you and it was good to know I could get my message to players who many say are uncoachable. It's hard work; they're basically lazy. But I had them drilled and pressuring opponents almost like an English team. Most coaches who go there are just fannying around, but it's not my nature."[4]
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Roy doesn't really hold back. Does he?
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[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40525.msg1115826#msg1115826 date=1276026566]
My only concern is his away record in the Premiership.
It's shocking to say the least.
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Could it be any worse than our away record this season just gone?
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Ha! Well, actually it was.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40525.msg1115826#msg1115826 date=1276026566]
My only concern is his away record in the Premiership.
It's shocking to say the least.
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Could it be any worse than our away record this season just gone?
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Ha! Well, actually it was.
Will Zidanny want to come?
I could live with that.
I like him and I'll be supporting him if he is installed as our new manager.
RoyCDNW FTW.
RoyCDNW FTW.
Mmmmm. I suppose we need to get used to average. Mid table. Nothing special. Meh.
*shrugs shoulders*
*shrugs shoulders*
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=40525.msg1115830#msg1115830 date=1276026795]
I've many concerns. First and foremost he'll be a 'yes' man to those two cunts who own the club. He's not the type to rock the boat so will he fight to keep our best players? Not so sure. His record is good in poor leagues. His record in good leagues is relatively poor. I think he's a mediocre signing. And we're heading towards mediocrity - if we're not there already.
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The yes man part worries me. I wasn't happy with Rafa at the helm but at least he took the fight to the owners.
I've many concerns. First and foremost he'll be a 'yes' man to those two cunts who own the club. He's not the type to rock the boat so will he fight to keep our best players? Not so sure. His record is good in poor leagues. His record in good leagues is relatively poor. I think he's a mediocre signing. And we're heading towards mediocrity - if we're not there already.
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The yes man part worries me. I wasn't happy with Rafa at the helm but at least he took the fight to the owners.
If he does get appointed (and it still is a big 'if') he'll get my full support. Who knows, he might turn out alright.
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If he does get appointed (and it still is a big 'if') he'll get my full support. Who knows, he might turn out alright.
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Goes without saying, but I cant help but think, despite me not being Rafa's biggest fan, that from Rafa to Roy would be a step down.
If he does get appointed (and it still is a big 'if') he'll get my full support. Who knows, he might turn out alright.
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Goes without saying, but I cant help but think, despite me not being Rafa's biggest fan, that from Rafa to Roy would be a step down.
not fussed either way, I can see the new owners (and there will be new owners) getting rid the second they walk though the doors so this is definately a short term deal.
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not fussed either way, I can see the new owners (and there will be new owners) getting rid the second they walk though the doors so this is definately a short term deal.
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If there are new owners soon.
not fussed either way, I can see the new owners (and there will be new owners) getting rid the second they walk though the doors so this is definately a short term deal.
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If there are new owners soon.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=40525.msg1115830#msg1115830 date=1276026795]
I've many concerns. First and foremost he'll be a 'yes' man to those two cunts who own the club. He's not the type to rock the boat so will he fight to keep our best players? Not so sure. His record is good in poor leagues. His record in good leagues is relatively poor. I think he's a mediocre signing. And we're heading towards mediocrity - if we're not there already.
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Roy strikes me a dignified gentleman rather than a "Yes Man". I'm sure he'll want to keep our best players however if some of them don't want to play for Liverpool anymore, then fuck them. The club may currently be a mess but once the shitty yank pond life are kicked out Liverpool will rise like a phoenix from the ashes.
When the club are finally moving forward again, we will know which players walked through the storm with their heads up high and which players didn't have the heart to fight to make Liverpool great again.
I've many concerns. First and foremost he'll be a 'yes' man to those two cunts who own the club. He's not the type to rock the boat so will he fight to keep our best players? Not so sure. His record is good in poor leagues. His record in good leagues is relatively poor. I think he's a mediocre signing. And we're heading towards mediocrity - if we're not there already.
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Roy strikes me a dignified gentleman rather than a "Yes Man". I'm sure he'll want to keep our best players however if some of them don't want to play for Liverpool anymore, then fuck them. The club may currently be a mess but once the shitty yank pond life are kicked out Liverpool will rise like a phoenix from the ashes.
When the club are finally moving forward again, we will know which players walked through the storm with their heads up high and which players didn't have the heart to fight to make Liverpool great again.
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=40525.msg1115830#msg1115830 date=1276026795]
I've many concerns. First and foremost he'll be a 'yes' man to those two cunts who own the club. He's not the type to rock the boat so will he fight to keep our best players? Not so sure. His record is good in poor leagues. His record in good leagues is relatively poor. I think he's a mediocre signing. And we're heading towards mediocrity - if we're not there already.
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The yes man part worries me. I wasn't happy with Rafa at the helm but at least he took the fight to the owners.
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Do you really think that?
Surely nobody in their right mind would stand idly by whilst their best players were being sold, you're just digging your own grave
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=40525.msg1115830#msg1115830 date=1276026795]
I've many concerns. First and foremost he'll be a 'yes' man to those two cunts who own the club. He's not the type to rock the boat so will he fight to keep our best players? Not so sure. His record is good in poor leagues. His record in good leagues is relatively poor. I think he's a mediocre signing. And we're heading towards mediocrity - if we're not there already.
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The yes man part worries me. I wasn't happy with Rafa at the helm but at least he took the fight to the owners.
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Do you really think that?
Surely nobody in their right mind would stand idly by whilst their best players were being sold, you're just digging your own grave
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40525.msg1115860#msg1115860 date=1276030192]
Goes without saying, but I cant help but think, despite me not being Rafa's biggest fan, that from Rafa to Roy would be a step down.
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Yeah. And it doesn't help that Rafa is about to become manager of Inter whilst we're scrounging around the managerial bargain basement.
Goes without saying, but I cant help but think, despite me not being Rafa's biggest fan, that from Rafa to Roy would be a step down.
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Yeah. And it doesn't help that Rafa is about to become manager of Inter whilst we're scrounging around the managerial bargain basement.
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40525.msg1115860#msg1115860 date=1276030192]
Goes without saying, but I cant help but think, despite me not being Rafa's biggest fan, that from Rafa to Roy would be a step down.
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Yeah. And it doesn't help that Rafa is about to become manager of Inter whilst we're scrounging around the managerial bargain basement.
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The worst bit is that this is a self-inflicted wound.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40525.msg1115860#msg1115860 date=1276030192]
Goes without saying, but I cant help but think, despite me not being Rafa's biggest fan, that from Rafa to Roy would be a step down.
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Yeah. And it doesn't help that Rafa is about to become manager of Inter whilst we're scrounging around the managerial bargain basement.
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The worst bit is that this is a self-inflicted wound.
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40525.msg1115859#msg1115859 date=1276030118]
If he does get appointed (and it still is a big 'if') he'll get my full support. Who knows, he might turn out alright.
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Goes without saying, but I cant help but think, despite me not being Rafa's biggest fan, that from Rafa to Roy would be a step down.
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I always felt confident and assured when Rafa sent the team out in those big games in Europe and on this stage he often proved to be a tactical genius. There were far more games in the league, however, when I felt that we got a result in spite of Rafa because he'd sent out a jumble of a team and made senseless substitutions. It will be nice to have a man who is more of a players' manager and who doesn't continuously play Benayoun on the left.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40525.msg1115859#msg1115859 date=1276030118]
If he does get appointed (and it still is a big 'if') he'll get my full support. Who knows, he might turn out alright.
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Goes without saying, but I cant help but think, despite me not being Rafa's biggest fan, that from Rafa to Roy would be a step down.
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I always felt confident and assured when Rafa sent the team out in those big games in Europe and on this stage he often proved to be a tactical genius. There were far more games in the league, however, when I felt that we got a result in spite of Rafa because he'd sent out a jumble of a team and made senseless substitutions. It will be nice to have a man who is more of a players' manager and who doesn't continuously play Benayoun on the left.
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