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Rafa to Inter in the next 48 hours

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[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40483.msg1113953#msg1113953 date=1275761668]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=40483.msg1113909#msg1113909 date=1275753906]
£37 million for Mascherano and Kuyt, he can fuck off.
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40m for the pair and it's a deal.

Masha 27-28.

Kuyt 12 ish


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I'd rather keep Kuyt, I'd rather keep both but I think Masher wants to go. Sell Riera, Babel, Degen and El Zhar.
 
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=40483.msg1113955#msg1113955 date=1275762144]
i'd take 40 mill for them deffo. only cos mash wans out, though.
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Exactly, I don't want to get rid of Masha, no chance, but if he wants to leave - then there's nothing we can do about it.

Kuyt is one I'm in 2 minds about.

I've not been a fan of his one little bit, but I probably should give him the benefit of the doubt since he was forced into a bloody right mid position which obviously doesn't suit him.
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40483.msg1113958#msg1113958 date=1275762661]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=40483.msg1113955#msg1113955 date=1275762144]
i'd take 40 mill for them deffo. only cos mash wans out, though.
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Exactly, I don't want to get rid of Masha, no chance, but if he wants to leave - then there's nothing we can do about it.

Kuyt is one I'm in 2 minds about.

I've not been a fan of his one little bit, but I probably should give him the benefit of the doubt since he was forced into a bloody right mid position which obviously doesn't suit him.
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he's not good enough for back up striker either, which is why i'd sell. i think he's a very good player but he's one who has to go if we want a change of style.
 
I wouldn't be devastated if Mascher and Kuyt (for around that £40m figure) were our main outs this summer.

Does Mrs Mascherano speak any Italian?
 
I think Mascher is easily worth £30-35M, wanting out or not. How long does he have left on his contract?

Dirk has to be a minimum of £10M, maybe more.

I think we should definitely be pushing for a figure of £45M if they want them
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40483.msg1113965#msg1113965 date=1275763655]
I wouldn't be devastated if Mascher and Kuyt (for around that £40m figure) were our main outs this summer.

Does Mrs Mascherano speak any Italian?
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I would pay for Dirks easy jet ticket if he was interested, and while Mascher is possibly my fav player for the gonads he has, he was always going to go sooner rather than later as long as it went on a creative player and a good forward (we need three in total)

regards
 
I still think Masher might wait to see who comes in tho; who knows?...I think if he hears a knock on his door and finds Dalglish standing outside it mught give him room for pause. 🙂
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40483.msg1113965#msg1113965 date=1275763655]
I wouldn't be devastated if Mascher and Kuyt (for around that £40m figure) were our main outs this summer.

Does Mrs Mascherano speak any Italian?
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Why can't the dumb bint just learn to speak English. It's not as if she is struggling to find time juggling multiple jobs...is it?
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40483.msg1113832#msg1113832 date=1275744702]
I wonder if he will bring Lucas with him?

Christ, someone had better take the cunt, it was one of the main reasons I was happy Benitez went
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Same here
 
When Masher does go, we will have to buy another top quality holding midfielder

Now, not only will that cost a fair bit, there aren't really that many around, and certainly not many who would come to Liverpool in the state we're in

So what does that leave us with?

That's right.

Lucas.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40483.msg1114098#msg1114098 date=1275811161]
When Masher does go, we will have to buy another top quality holding midfielder

Now, not only will that cost a fair bit, there aren't really that many around, and certainly not many who would come to Liverpool in the state we're in

So what does that leave us with?

That's right.

Lucas.


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You're forgetting the Plessiasaur and Spearing.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=40483.msg1114060#msg1114060 date=1275793935]
I still think Masher might wait to see who comes in tho; who knows?...I think if he hears a knock on his door and finds Dalglish standing outside it mught give him room for pause. 🙂
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I so hope you're right, my friend, I really do.
 
I would definately sell kuyt because 1, he is on a massive wage and 2, he is being asked to do a different job than the one he was bought for. yes he scores goals but I'm of the opinion if we had a wide player than could hurt stubburn defenses and deliver quality into the box we'd win more games.

as for mash, he wants out so get the best price for him and hope the yanks don't swallow the money, failing that do a player swap with touré.
 
Every player has his price. I just hope we don't set too low a price for Deadly, who personally I'd rather keep for his versatility and attitude as well as his playing ability, 'coz we're going to need decent squaddies as well as automatic first-teamers.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40483.msg1114169#msg1114169 date=1275818331]
Every player has his price. I just hope we don't set too low a price for Deadly, who personally I'd rather keep for his versatility and attitude as well as his playing ability, 'coz we're going to need decent squaddies as well as automatic first-teamers.
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this is true but we're going to need money to rebuild the squad, I suspect that money will come from gerrard/torres sales but if by some miracle they want to stay we're going to have to generate money to plug holes in the squad. selling kuyt and buying a quality left back is already improving the squad, becuase maxi (imho) would do a better job at right midfielder and our left back is utter gash.
 
Kuyt's on 90k a week isn't he?

If we're going to go on Ross' trip about value for money, I don't think Kuyt is worth 90k a week.
 
I see what you're saying, but I'd sooner spend that money than end up with a less effective balance to the squad/team.
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40483.msg1114180#msg1114180 date=1275819222]
Would Kuyt get into the Scum, Arse or Chav teams?

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How do you know he wouldn't?

I hate this fucking bollocks about Kuyt, yeah he can be inconsistent but he's a proven match winner. You only have to look at Torres' interviews when he's mentioned Kuyt to really assess his value to the team, you need players like him. And would he get into the others teams? Well Wenger was in for him when we signed him. John Terry has had alot of good things to say about Kuyt in the past regarding the games he's played against him.

Just because he isn't Ronaldo and he's a versatile attacker rather than and out and out winger or striker, it seems fashionable to play down his ability and his contribution, there's a shit load of players who deserve to be shown the door and he certainly isn't one of them.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40483.msg1114179#msg1114179 date=1275819060]
I see what you're saying, but I'd sooner spend that money than end up with a less effective balance to the squad/team.
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I think it would give us more balance not less. we have one left back and several players that could play right midfield.
fuck it, now rafa is gone I don't have to hide my feelings anymore, I can't stand kuyt mwha ha ha ha.

ohhh that felt good to get off my chest
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40483.msg1114184#msg1114184 date=1275819570]
Besides which, all those teams have players who wouldn't get into ours either.
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Yep. I really hate that kind of comment. I think he'd do well for a few of the big teams around us and as said a million times, statistically in terms of goals and assists you'd be hard pushed to find a player who'll give you as much. So he's not a natural winger? So what? Maxi has been impressive of late but he's barely proven anything yet for us.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40483.msg1114186#msg1114186 date=1275819691]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40483.msg1114179#msg1114179 date=1275819060]
I see what you're saying, but I'd sooner spend that money than end up with a less effective balance to the squad/team.
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I think it would give us more balance not less. we have one left back and several players that could play right midfield.
fuck it, now rafa is gone I don't have to hide my feelings anymore, I can't stand kuyt mwha ha ha ha.

ohhh that felt good to get off my chest
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No offence Neil, but given your love for that lazy, useless twat on the left wing, forgive me if I don't give much credence to your reasoning for not rating Kuyt. He's isn't fast and capable of scoring a 30 yarder once every 25 games.
 
I do like Dirk, but I see him as being reasonably expendable - as long as we get a decent enough fee. I reckon £12M or so should be the absolute minimum we're pushing for.

Thing is, if a new guy comes in and uses him a different way, it might turn out he's worth more to us than any fee we'll get.

He's not the world's greatest right winger (although he's the best defensive right-winger in the business) and he's not great as a lone striker, but that's not to say that's how he's gonna be utilised.

Wait and see I guess
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40483.msg1114186#msg1114186 date=1275819691]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40483.msg1114179#msg1114179 date=1275819060]
I see what you're saying, but I'd sooner spend that money than end up with a less effective balance to the squad/team.
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I think it would give us more balance not less. we have one left back and several players that could play right midfield.
fuck it, now rafa is gone I don't have to hide my feelings anymore, I can't stand kuyt mwha ha ha ha.

ohhh that felt good to get off my chest
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No offence Neil, but given your love for that lazy, useless twat on the left wing, forgive me if I don't give much credence to your reasoning for not rating Kuyt. He's isn't fast and capable of scoring a 30 yarder once every 25 games.
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its your choice if you want to bring up babel to counter the arguement of kuyt but babel isn't on 90 a week, doesn't play regardless of form, wasn't bought as a striker and then shifted to the wing because he couldn't cut it in that position and isn't blocking the path of people more talented than he is in the position he hogs week after week.
 
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