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Pellegrini Set To Be Unveiled as Next Liverpool FC Manager

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[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=40663.msg1123637#msg1123637 date=1276960028]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40663.msg1123635#msg1123635 date=1276959678]
I would start off working on that assumption, yes, not least because I don't think the man himself would want the job on a permanent basis. His appointment would last until new owners come in and we can appoint someone we really want as permanent manager, not just pick from those who happen to be available and interested at the moment.
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But then certainly a two year contract would be in place? You cant expect stability shrt term anyway?

which is why I see an interim sollution as not to seriously. It will not give the club stability and it will be specualtionabout mangers and players and it ould be throughout analyzed whatever happens. Everytime Stevie had poor body language we would read the same over again....

If we pick King Kenny let us pick King Kenny for the job, not for the job until someone else suits better.
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I don't agree. That's needlessly restrictive. Kenny knows the club's situation better than most and doesn't want the job on a permanent basis anyhow, so I'm confident he'd be happy with a one-year rolling contract. Sorry, but stability isn't the first thing that comes to my mind when I consider the likelihood of new owners coming in and probably wanting to change the manager, if we've made a permanent appointment in the meantime.

Last but not least, if you really want to avoid that stuff with Stevie - as we all do - there are basically two possibilities to give ourselves the best chance of avoiding it. Mourinho was one, and he's gone to Madrid. Kenny's the other.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40663.msg1123647#msg1123647 date=1276961019]
Was it *fuck*.

They knew Mourinho was gagging to take over, and made the right call, because one is an ordinary manager, and one is extraordinary

Next
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He might win them a trophy with his defensive stubborn approach to football, and will grow overfrustrated with his 85.000 homecrowd thinking he is everything but special. Hooray.

Sacked in a year.

Chers
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40663.msg1123644#msg1123644 date=1276960538]
Pellegrini managed to take the highest paid and most expensively assembled squad in world football to a grand total of zero trophies.

He's far better suited to making smaller, less well-paid squads over-deliver.

But still win no trophies

Hooray

Sacked in a year

Cheers
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Tbh, if Pellegrini had been in charge of every player purchase I doubt he would have bought the same players that Perez wanted. Still he had an exccellent squad, and should have gotten at least 1 thropy. But I'd bet your hat on him winning one if he had stayed.

He's no ordinary manager.

Benitez had an excellent track record regarding winning thropies, but that still didn't bring us nr 19. There's no gurantee whatsoever with trackrecords. Of the managers availeble he's the best choice. Simple.
 
Insignificance - just in time for us to move in for him, if in the meantime we've been sensible enough to make a caretaker appointment. 😉
 
Yeah, chers

You're fucking wrong about everything, always.

We've all agreed on this, and trawling through your previous posts picking out everything wrong is, frankly, a sisyphean task that no right-minded individual would undertake

You are always wrong
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40663.msg1123653#msg1123653 date=1276961370]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40663.msg1123644#msg1123644 date=1276960538]
Pellegrini managed to take the highest paid and most expensively assembled squad in world football to a grand total of zero trophies.

He's far better suited to making smaller, less well-paid squads over-deliver.

But still win no trophies

Hooray

Sacked in a year

Cheers
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Tbh, if Pellegrini had been in charge of every player purchase I doubt he would have bought the same players that Perez wanted. Still he had an exccellent squad, and should have gotten at least 1 thropy. But I'd bet your hat on him winning one if he had stayed.

He's no ordinary manager.

Benitez had an excellent track record regarding winning thropies, but that still didn't bring us nr 19. There's no gurantee whatsoever with trackrecords. Of the managers availeble he's the best choice. Simple.
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We should absolutely not restrict ourselves to that field.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40663.msg1123654#msg1123654 date=1276961417]
Insignificance - just in time for us to move in for him, if in the meantime we've been sensible enough to make a caretaker appointment. 😉
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Haha- Maybe. Could be a good idea. But what would happen if King Kenny had great success during that year?
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40663.msg1123655#msg1123655 date=1276961525]
Yeah, chers

You're fucking wrong about everything, always.

We've all agreed on this, and trawling through your previous posts picking out everything wrong is, frankly, a sisyphean task that no right-minded individual would undertake

You are always wrong
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Well, I was right when I claimed England would play crap footie in the world cup under Capello?
 
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=40663.msg1123623#msg1123623 date=1276958807]
[quote author=Red Mullet link=topic=40663.msg1123594#msg1123594 date=1276957145]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40663.msg1123528#msg1123528 date=1276947296]
*Awaits someone to mention how he still didn't win the title despite spending a quarter of a billion euros...in 2 months*
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*Awaits someone to mention that at Real Madrid, the manager doesn't really control the transfers...at any time*
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Real Madrid is a silly club. Capello got fired twice after winning the title because they didnt play attacking enough. Del Bosque got fired after winning allmost everything, as he wasnt fancy enough to guide the "galacticos". Jupp Heynckes got fired after he brought them the first CL in modern times. John Toschack have been fired three times. That is probably not ridicoulous, but it still mean he was hired three times which is fucking silly.
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Real Madrid = fucking silly
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40663.msg1123659#msg1123659 date=1276961748]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40663.msg1123653#msg1123653 date=1276961370]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40663.msg1123644#msg1123644 date=1276960538]
Pellegrini managed to take the highest paid and most expensively assembled squad in world football to a grand total of zero trophies.

He's far better suited to making smaller, less well-paid squads over-deliver.

But still win no trophies

Hooray

Sacked in a year

Cheers
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Tbh, if Pellegrini had been in charge of every player purchase I doubt he would have bought the same players that Perez wanted. Still he had an exccellent squad, and should have gotten at least 1 thropy. But I'd bet your hat on him winning one if he had stayed.

He's no ordinary manager.

Benitez had an excellent track record regarding winning thropies, but that still didn't bring us nr 19. There's no gurantee whatsoever with trackrecords. Of the managers availeble he's the best choice. Simple.
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We should absolutely not restrict ourselves to that field.
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But thats the problem, we can't sit around and wwait for someone to be availeble. Mourinho and Hiddink who are the two best choices around, won't be free for at least 2 years. We need someone now.
 
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Pellegrini's lawyer: "I cannot confirm of deny anything. All I can say is that there is an offer from England."
 
Pellegrini's lawyer: "I cannot confirm of deny anything. All I can say is that there is an offer from England."
 
[quote author=jan link=topic=40663.msg1123684#msg1123684 date=1276964399]
Pellegrini's lawyer: "I cannot confirm of deny anything. All I can say is that there is an offer from England."
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He can learn alot from Ian Cotton.
 
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=40663.msg1123661#msg1123661 date=1276962101]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40663.msg1123654#msg1123654 date=1276961417]
Insignificance - just in time for us to move in for him, if in the meantime we've been sensible enough to make a caretaker appointment. 😉
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Haha- Maybe. Could be a good idea. But what would happen if King Kenny had great success during that year?
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Even then I doubt he'd want the job on a permanent basis. It'd be a nice problem to have for a change though.
 
How long would Kenny be a caretaker for JJ? And how long would we wait for someone we *really* want assuming we'd be in a position to make an attractive offer?
 
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40663.msg1123659#msg1123659 date=1276961748]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40663.msg1123653#msg1123653 date=1276961370]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40663.msg1123644#msg1123644 date=1276960538]
Pellegrini managed to take the highest paid and most expensively assembled squad in world football to a grand total of zero trophies.

He's far better suited to making smaller, less well-paid squads over-deliver.

But still win no trophies

Hooray

Sacked in a year

Cheers
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Tbh, if Pellegrini had been in charge of every player purchase I doubt he would have bought the same players that Perez wanted. Still he had an exccellent squad, and should have gotten at least 1 thropy. But I'd bet your hat on him winning one if he had stayed.

He's no ordinary manager.

Benitez had an excellent track record regarding winning thropies, but that still didn't bring us nr 19. There's no gurantee whatsoever with trackrecords. Of the managers availeble he's the best choice. Simple.
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We should absolutely not restrict ourselves to that field.
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But thats the problem, we can't sit around and wwait for someone to be availeble. Mourinho and Hiddink who are the two best choices around, won't be free for at least 2 years. We need someone now.
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...which is why I want us to appoint that person for the interim and go for a permanent appointment we REALLY want when that person does become available.

Incidentally, I'm not sure about the "2 years" bit, especially if new money comes into the club before that period is over.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40663.msg1123698#msg1123698 date=1276967630]
How long would Kenny be a caretaker for JJ? And how long would we wait for someone we *really* want assuming we'd be in a position to make an attractive offer?
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I'd see him appointed on a rolling contract until such time as we were ready to make such an offer. That will obv.depend on new owners coming in but, if Kenny himself is happy to take the job on that basis (and we're given to understand he would be), we should go ahead and get it done. Even if - Heaven help us - a change of ownership were not to happen for some reason, I don't see what we'll have lost by at least giving ourselves the time to conduct a proper search.
 
So, who are the candidates then JJ;

Hiddink
Mourinho
Van Gaal
Guardiola
Capello
Lippi
Blanc

From that list, which would be my top choices except Pellegrini. All of these managers are in a position were they could stay for years. The only one is Lippi, and he is bob bob regarding managing in England.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40663.msg1123644#msg1123644 date=1276960538]
Pellegrini managed to take the highest paid and most expensively assembled squad in world football to a grand total of zero trophies.

He's far better suited to making smaller, less well-paid squads over-deliver.

But still win no trophies


Hooray

Sacked in a year

Cheers
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I'm sure they'd be a long list of managers who could have won a bagful of trophies with Villareal eh? Or even take a newly promoted into the Champions league for the first time, make the semi's and take the club (the equivalent of Fulham/Burnley) to 2nd in La Liga.

96 points with any squad (however expensively assembled by somebody else) isn't too shabby either. That's about 15 points more than Capello managed when winning the title with Real. It wasn't Pellegrino's fault that Barca are just about the best side in Europe for years.

Another one to add to your "is shit" list Brendan.

*yawns*
 
From the Mail;

Liverpool should be able to announce their new manager this week - and his first challenge will be to keep Kop legend Kenny Dalglish at the club after he was overlooked for the top job.

Former Real Madrid boss Manuel Pellegrini and Fulham manager Roy Hodgson are the two clear front-runners to succeed Rafa Benitez at Anfield.

Dalglish is waiting to see who is appointed before he commits his future even though, bizarrely, he is part of the selection panel.

He made it clear when Hodgson became favourite that he felt his own credentials to do the job were as good as the Fulham boss's.

If Hodgson is chosen, he will hope his long-standing relationship with Dalglish will keep the Scot at Anfield, where he holds an ambassadorial role and oversees the club's academy.

Pellegrini's relative youth and recent experience of managing a big club like Real gives him the edge and would make a partnership with Dalglish easier.

Dalglish's friends and former Anfield players ran a strong campaign to get him to be the next Liverpool manager. But he won little support within the boardroom despite his legendary status.

Considered Liverpool's greatest-ever player, Dalglish was their player-manager when they won the Double in 1986.
However, he quit because of pressure midway through the 1990-91 season and also resigned as Blackburn boss after winning the Premier League title in 1995. His last job ended in 1998, when he was sacked by Newcastle.

Fulham are still confident of keeping Hodgson, predicting he will not want to join a club with a £350million debt and uncertainty over the futures of Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard. But Liverpool are adamant Torres, in particular, will stay. More likely is the departure of midfielder Javier Mascherano.
 
JJ, would you be happy to have Kenny managing us for the entire season and possibly longer then?
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40663.msg1123647#msg1123647 date=1276961019]
Was it *fuck*.

They knew Mourinho was gagging to take over, and made the right call, because one is an ordinary manager, and one is extraordinary

Next
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Mourinho will last 2 seasons max. Rarely does anyone get longer. He may only last 12 months.
 
[quote author=vantage link=topic=40663.msg1123792#msg1123792 date=1276985599]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40663.msg1123647#msg1123647 date=1276961019]
Was it *fuck*.

They knew Mourinho was gagging to take over, and made the right call, because one is an ordinary manager, and one is extraordinary

Next
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Mourinho will last 2 seasons max. Rarely does anyone get longer. He may only last 12 months.
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I would be very surprised to see last more than one, Will the mmadrid fans be happy with the football that was played in the champs leauge final?
 
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=40663.msg1123794#msg1123794 date=1276985778]
[quote author=vantage link=topic=40663.msg1123792#msg1123792 date=1276985599]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40663.msg1123647#msg1123647 date=1276961019]
Was it *fuck*.

They knew Mourinho was gagging to take over, and made the right call, because one is an ordinary manager, and one is extraordinary

Next
[/quote]
Mourinho will last 2 seasons max. Rarely does anyone get longer. He may only last 12 months.
[/quote]

I would be very surprised to see last more than one, Will the mmadrid fans be happy with the football that was played in the champs leauge final?
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Well seeing as he won it, they'd be a gang of cockheads if they moaned about winning Big Ears playing peasant football
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40663.msg1123795#msg1123795 date=1276985893]
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=40663.msg1123794#msg1123794 date=1276985778]
[quote author=vantage link=topic=40663.msg1123792#msg1123792 date=1276985599]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40663.msg1123647#msg1123647 date=1276961019]
Was it *fuck*.

They knew Mourinho was gagging to take over, and made the right call, because one is an ordinary manager, and one is extraordinary

Next
[/quote]
Mourinho will last 2 seasons max. Rarely does anyone get longer. He may only last 12 months.
[/quote]

I would be very surprised to see last more than one, Will the mmadrid fans be happy with the football that was played in the champs leauge final?
[/quote]

Well seeing as he won it, they'd be a gang of cockheads if they moaned about winning Big Ears playing peasant football
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Didn't they get rid of Del Bosque after winning big ears?
 
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40663.msg1123795#msg1123795 date=1276985893]
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=40663.msg1123794#msg1123794 date=1276985778]
[quote author=vantage link=topic=40663.msg1123792#msg1123792 date=1276985599]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40663.msg1123647#msg1123647 date=1276961019]
Was it *fuck*.

They knew Mourinho was gagging to take over, and made the right call, because one is an ordinary manager, and one is extraordinary

Next
[/quote]
Mourinho will last 2 seasons max. Rarely does anyone get longer. He may only last 12 months.
[/quote]

I would be very surprised to see last more than one, Will the mmadrid fans be happy with the football that was played in the champs leauge final?
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Well seeing as he won it, they'd be a gang of cockheads if they moaned about winning Big Ears playing peasant football
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Didn't they get rid of Del Bosque after winning big ears?
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I think he got the sack because he 'only' won La Liga that season.
 
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